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The SEALs must return to the shadows
US Defense Watch ^ | November 2, 2015 | Ray Starmann

Posted on 11/02/2015 12:33:38 AM PST by pboyington

The Navy SEALs have been everywhere in the media in the last few years: in films, books, magazines, video games, on news shows and the Internet. While publicity is always good for the military, is this the type of PR you want for a covert special warfare unit? Are the SEALs a special operations group or a circus act in wet suits?

Every time I turn on Fox News, some muscle bound SEAL is on promoting a book like “Manage your company like a SEAL”, “The SEAL Cookbook”, “160 Ways to Garrote a Tango.” If they’re not pumping up a book, they’re constantly opining or shooting a back azimuth to Ainsley Earhardt’s green room.

The bad guys already know that the SEALs are top-notch killers, why the need to constantly self-promote? The SEALs are starting to look like the real estate broker who advertises on the front panel of a shopping cart. “Need help killing the Tangos? Call 1-800-USN-SEAL.” Maybe they could even do a buddy promotion like some real estate teams, “The Bizzy Blondes, Bob and Bud. We kill bad guys so you don’t have to.” “Have Glocks will travel.” “Terrorists check in, but they don’t check out.” “Just a little C4 knocks down the door!”

Next thing these guys will be showing up on late night TV pushing meds and protein shakes with Chuck Norris and his wife. “When nature needs a little push, try some SEAL-LAX.” “Having gravity issues… how about a little SEAL-AGRA?”

On Amazon, just typing in the term, “Navy SEALs” will get you 44,400 results. Typing in “Army Delta Force” will get you 1,213. Is there a problem here, SEALs? That’s one heck of a lot of publicity; everything from movies to books to toys and cleaning products that have to do with a direct action, special recon, anti-terror unit that supposedly operates in secret.

The public’s interest in the SEALs really started in the early 1990’s with the Charlie Sheen movie, Navy SEALs and the publication of the best-selling book, Rogue Warrior, by Richard Marcinko. Demo Dick Marcinko was the original commander and the brains behind SEAL Team Six. Marcinko was and is hated by the military establishment, which is why I like him. He has since gone on to write successful and highly-entertaining novels about fictional SEALs and SEAL operations.

After 9-11, with the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan underway, the SEALs became the golden, go to boys of the Bush White House and then the Obama administration. If a couple-hundred terrorists needed to be greased, call the SEALs. If some troops on the ground were in a world of hurt, call the SEALs. If some old lady in Baghdad lost her cat in a tree, call the SEALs.

Perhaps more than anything, it was the Bin Laden raid in May of 2011 that really created the SEALs publicity monster. After the Bin Laden Raid, the SEALs seemed to be ubiquitous hybrids of rock stars and NFL Super Bowl champions. The Navy jumped on the bandwagon and whole-heartedly assisted Hollywood with the movies; Act of Valor, Lone Survivor and American Sniper.

Next came Fox News: the SEALs are Prime Rib with A-1 steak sauce for their conservative audience. One of their anchors, Jenna Lee is married to a former SEAL. The rest of the Fox News ladies are more than infatuated with the super troopers. Is it the sun tans, the muscles, the crew cuts; or the fact that they do more real world dangerous stuff in one afternoon than an anchorwoman’s husband will fantasize about in a lifetime?

But, the SEALs are not Top Gun pilots. Their mission is unique and their methods and operations are highly classified.

For instance, after the Bin Laden Raid you had several former SEALs, like Robert O’Neill who claimed to be the SEAL who killed Bin Laden, a fact that was disputed by other SEALs who also claimed to be the guys who whacked Bin Laden. How many SEALs did it take to kill Bin Laden? One, two, three; the world may never know.

O’Neill is not the only one who has come under fire. Former teammate Matt Bissonnette published the initial first-person account about the raid, “No Easy Day,” using the pen name Mark Owen and had to pay millions to the Defense Department from the subsequent profits. The Pentagon also has an open investigation into potential leaks provided to the producers of the blockbuster film, “Zero Dark Thirty.” And a 2012 trailer for a video game in the “Medal of Honor” series includes insights from two anonymous SEAL Team Six members who some accuse of releasing sensitive tactics and procedures.

And, then there’s Delta Force…

Until last week’s non-combat, combat raid, the only Delta the country knew was the airline that lost your luggage. Sure Delta has had a little publicity in the past. There were the Delta Force movies in the 1980’s and “Blackhawk Down” in 2001, but what does the public really know about Delta? Uh…not much. When does the public ever hear or see anyone from Delta? Uh…never and you know why? Because the public DOESN’T HAVE A NEED TO KNOW.

Delta has conducted hundreds of successful operations in Iraq and Afghanistan, but they don’t send their alumni on Fox News in tight silk suits that are more expensive than Andrea Tantaros’ boob job. Delta knows what OPSEC (operations security) is and they maintain it.

Delta is also a different state of mind than the SEALs. Delta was molded by the late Colonel “Chargin’ Charlie” Beckwith who had done a couple tours with the famous British SAS. Beckwith picked up on their laid back, but deadly ways and transferred the mentality over to Delta.

Not only does Delta have a different attitude than the SEALs, but Delta guys look different. They are very rarely, the testosterone-charged, pumped up, swaggering linebacker SEAL type, but rather regular looking dudes that perform incredible feats. It’s their low-key demeanor that allows them to blend into dark and nasty places all over the world.

Along with Delta remaining mute, when was the last time you saw guys from the Army’s super-secret Green Beret/Human Intelligence collection unit, known as “The Activity” pumping up a book on Fox News. Newsflash – guys from The Activity were on the ground collecting intelligence for the Bin Laden Raid. They were collecting intelligence for the SEALs. But, they never said anything. They never do.

It’s just not their style.

The problem is not really the release of classified information by former SEALs, but the inundation of the public with a myriad of open sources. There is so much information out there about SEAL training, weapons, equipment, methods, operations, utilization of intelligence sources, etc, that it is virtually a field day for enemy intelligence services. Believe me, there are enemy intelligence personnel who have created an excellent picture of SEALs order of battle, capabilities and dispositions just from the plethora of SEALs information that’s out there.

So, what’s the solution? Besides having SEALs sign NDAs, you can’t stop someone from writing a book if it doesn’t contain classified information. You can’t stop people from promoting themselves and trying to make money. That’s what freedom is all about.

But, there comes a time when former SEALs need to think long and hard about what they’re writing and what they’re talking about and if their constant media presence is endangering SEAL operations and personnel worldwide.

If Delta and The Activity can keep their mouths shut, so can the SEALs.

It’s time for the SEALs to return to the shadows with their special operations brothers.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: binladen; deltaforce; foxnews; usnavyseals
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To: pboyington

Notice the line about Col. Beckwith modeling Delta Force on the “Famous S.A.S” — did the author ever realize that the fact that British SAS is indeed famous blows his entire argument?

This information might be a little bit dated but DELTA was initially formed for a specific purpose — hostage rescue. They were focused on anti-terror. It is therefore a relatively small unit of hand picked Special Forces operators. Comparing DELTA to the SEAL Team 6 (DEVGRU) is more accurate than comparing them to the SEALs in general.


21 posted on 11/02/2015 3:56:11 AM PST by Tallguy
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To: snoringbear

Well, keep in mind that Seals are all enlisted.

Most are, but they have officers also. I seem to recall CDR Marcinko.


22 posted on 11/02/2015 3:57:29 AM PST by opbuzz (Right way, wrong way, Marine way)
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To: pboyington

Who the heck eats prime rib with A-1 steak sauce?


23 posted on 11/02/2015 4:32:16 AM PST by golux
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To: snoringbear
Well, keep in mind that Seals are all enlisted.

Nope.

24 posted on 11/02/2015 4:35:24 AM PST by Travis T. OJustice (I miss my dad.)
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To: snoringbear

The seals are not all enlisted, where did you get that idea?


25 posted on 11/02/2015 4:36:47 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: pboyington

This morning on FOX I saw 3 former-military on a panel discussing Trump’s VA reform ideas. Two Marines and a former SEAL. The SEAL was wearing a miniature gold trident on his jacket lapel. The others were not wearing USMC eagle globe and anchors.

In the specwar community, this is called “Selling your trident” and it’s frowned upon.

30 years ago when I was a frogman, we were called, “The Silent Option.” Now it’s the option that won’t shut up, and goes looking for cameras. ENOUGH ALREADY!


26 posted on 11/02/2015 5:01:39 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Sir_Ed

People need to replace the curly quotes and em dashes when they post.


27 posted on 11/02/2015 5:02:37 AM PST by Lisbon1940 (No full-term governors)
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To: spetznaz

Another factor: Expansion teams. 40 years ago there were 2 SEAL Teams, one on each coast, and 4 UDTs (which were NOT the same as SEAL Teams, even though they shared common basic training.)

Now I have lost count of how many SEAL Teams there are, but it’s double digits. Now, I think of them as “Sea Rangers.” Totally different from when I was in. We NEVER contemplated 50-man ops, for example. That was a Ranger op by definition.

Football analogy: What would happen to quality if, over a decade, the NFL expanded from 32 to 150 pro football teams?


28 posted on 11/02/2015 5:04:40 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: pboyington

When I served in the USN, it was standing doctrine for SEAL ops that if any word at all ever made it to print, the mission was considered compromised.


29 posted on 11/02/2015 5:06:20 AM PST by Joe Brower (The "American People" are no longer capable of self-governance.)
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To: central_va
SAS/SBS all know that there will be no parades, no public acclamation. That's not what they enlisted for. They know that they have the thanks of a greatful nation, at least most of them are thankful.

Socom should not be a recruiting poster.

The blowhard at the end of the bar making the noise is a distraction, hoping that something he says might allow him to get lucky with the girls, or at least another beer. He isn't the real thing. Look for the quiet man at the back of the pub savoring on with his friends. Was he? You'll never know.

Cheers, Mates...........

30 posted on 11/02/2015 5:24:41 AM PST by North Coast Conservative (It's time to start playing cowboys and muslims.)
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To: Travis McGee

Army Rangers: The quiet professionals. You really don’t hear much from them...which is good.


31 posted on 11/02/2015 6:03:56 AM PST by jdsteel (Give me freedom, not more government.)
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To: jdsteel

Damn right.


32 posted on 11/02/2015 6:06:37 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Joe Brower

Yep, unless media was part of the plan from the start.


33 posted on 11/02/2015 6:07:13 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: ozzymandus

It has gotten to be like a fad. They should have stayed in the shadows like Mossad. They can be more effective that way.

Dare I say something has broken down in their leadership and selection?

There is no doubt they have earned credit for what they do.

There are more shadowy organizations though.


34 posted on 11/02/2015 6:22:38 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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To: North Coast Conservative

All of you guys are WET-

the Seals are BAD-ASs I got a chance to to meet 1 !

Jesse “”the Body”” Ventura!- he was so secret...
he cannot talk about his missions- (Somewhere in olangapo
Philippine’s) he now needs all of our help ferreting
out the bad guys- conspiracy theory show-

While he lives “off the Grid” -A-la mad max—

lol/SARC- just had to through this out there


35 posted on 11/02/2015 6:27:19 AM PST by mj1234
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To: Travis McGee
"ENOUGH ALREADY!"

I agree. Dial it back guys. We all now know about your abilities; you don't need to flaunt it, especially with Tridents on your civvies.

36 posted on 11/02/2015 6:48:45 AM PST by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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To: pboyington

Recon rules.


37 posted on 11/02/2015 6:56:21 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: A Navy Vet

Yeah, that’s over the top. The trident is not bling. That has all the class of Mr. T wearing a giant gold dollar sign.


38 posted on 11/02/2015 7:55:45 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee
Media? You mean our elected representatives in Washington might just use the SEALs as another political prop and PR mechanism?

Gosh, Matt, just because Obama and his fellow travelers have 're-purposed' every other federal institution and alphabet-soup agency doesn't mean that's infected the military! < /S>

39 posted on 11/02/2015 8:43:38 AM PST by Joe Brower (The "American People" are no longer capable of self-governance.)
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To: Travis McGee

“In the specwar community, this is called “Selling your trident” and it’s frowned upon.”

Used to be but not anymore it seems. There is a Team 6 guy here in Colorado that has a huge truck and loads of bling on it stating he was a member, including his plate “SEAL6”. The gate to his “secret compound” has all kinds of bling on it too. He always travels with some poor sucker frog that carries his bags. I think you might know who this individual is.


40 posted on 11/02/2015 8:49:42 AM PST by CodeToad (Stupid kills, but not nearly enough!)
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