The SEALs must return to the shadows

US Defense Watch ^ | November 2, 2015 | Ray Starmann

[TADSLOS]

To be fair, this “celebrity” phenom is not unique to the SEAL community. Lots of cashing in going on across all branches and I agree with you that people in this line of work need to shut their pie holes.

[cyclotic]

I know a guy who was a tier one operator in the early days. I actually knew him for about ten years before he said much about it and even then, it was very little. That’s the way it should be.

[subterfuge]

Not readable with all the weird symbols.

[Travis McGee]

Not ringing a bell....

[C. Edmund Wright]

ha, your screen name is perfect for this thread aint it?

I agree with your Delta / Seal Team point.....but as for borrowing? These elite units have been borrowing from each other for decades, and for those old enough, centuries.

Is this writing of books and everything else making it easier? Well, probably.

[Chode]

i bet that would have been news to Michael P. Murphy, LT. USN, Medal of Honor Recipient... but he was KIA

[A Navy Vet]

" There is a Team 6 guy here in Colorado that has a huge truck and loads of bling on it stating he was a member, including his plate “SEAL6”. The gate to his “secret compound” has all kinds of bling on it too. He always travels with some poor sucker frog that carries his bags. I think you might know who this individual is."

Doubt he's a SEAL. Used to have a URL for a SEAL site that busted wannabes. Just Google or ask Travis Mcgee. Plus, there are a lot of guys who made it through BUD/S, but never passed the many months long combat training. I think that was the case with Jesse Ventura, not sure.

[Jet Jaguar]

Active Duty ping.

[LucyT]

Gregory "Pappy" Boyington (December 4, 1912 - January 11, 1988) was an American combat pilot who was a United States Marine Corps fighter ace during World War II. He received both the Medal of Honor and the Navy Cross.

[laplata]

7 Military threads in 7 days. Like or dislike the Military?

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If you would read the threads you wouldn’t need to ask that.

[easternsky]

Read the threads, was asking about the poster.

[laplata]

Okay.

[AllAmericanGirl44]

bkmk

[A Navy Vet]

"Another factor: Expansion teams. 40 years ago there were 2 SEAL Teams, one on each coast, and 4 UDTs (which were NOT the same as SEAL Teams, even though they shared common basic training.) Now I have lost count of how many SEAL Teams there are, but it’s double digits."

That's where we differ. As long as they go through the same endurance training at BUD/S and then on to combat training with Survival, Evasion, Resistance, Escape (SERE), the more the merrier in my book.

The same with some advanced Rangers, Special Forces, Delta Force, Marine Force Recon, Air Force ground controllers and their rescue counter-parts, and Snipers from each branch of service. Build entire divisions of each, with dedicated in close air support they may need at any given time. Think A-10 Warthogs and C-130 gunships.

As you know all the above are the guys who often make the difference in close quarter combat in specialized/clandestine inner-city missions nowadays. We can't have enough of them in this new urban warfare environment.

I'd personally like to see entire divisions in each branch specialty, so long as they continue the harsh training requirements. Women, no, no, no, and damn no on subs for other reasons. What say you about the above?

[archy]

I know of Aussie SAS guys from the Vietnam War who still won’t talk about what they did because to them keeping secrets means, unless ordered otherwise, you take them to your grave.

A good many of them were Warrant Officers when I knew them. Damn fine bunch of fellas.

[archy]

DELTA was initially formed for a specific purpose — hostage rescue.

Nope. *Blue Light* was formed for hostage rescue, particularly in the aircraft-full-of-hostages days. Delta came along a year or two later.

The SAS, btw, was formed to destroy aircraft...German ones.

[archy]

To be fair, this “celebrity” phenom is not unique to the SEAL community.

Indeed, why back when I was in my Quartermaster mess kit repair battalion [underwater] we were so secret even we didn't know what we were doing. Then along came MREs and they did away with the mess kits, and now I've forgotten what we did.

It was real secret though.

[strider44]

Seals are all enlisted? One of the dumbest things ever posted here.

[snoringbear]

“Seals are all enlisted? One of the dumbest things ever posted here.”

Yeah, I should have researched this prior to posting. But, now that I have your alias I just run all my comments by you before posting. So, now I’ve done some research, my error was using “all”. There are indeed officers in the Seals but most are running the missions from a command post. There are a few, 01,02 types, that go on missions but most teams at the special operator level are run by senior nco’s.

[TADSLOS]

It was real secret though.

Probably something to do with immersion heaters....and MILGAS.