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Bear Spray Harder to Transport than Firearms
Gun Watch ^ | 30 October, 2015 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 10/30/2015 1:00:39 PM PDT by marktwain

Bear Spray

Almost all bear spray comes in containers that are too large to be transported with you on commercial aircraft.

It is interesting to note that bear spray is more difficult to transport on commercial aircraft than firearms are.  Both are prohibited from transport as carry ons, unless you have special dispensation from the government.  Then you can carry firearms, if you are an LEO with a letter authorizing it, a Sky Marshall, or a couple of other very special cases.  I do not know if Sky Marshalls or federal agents may carry pepper spray in the cabins of commercial aircraft.

But ordinary people can pack firearms in checked baggage.  The limit on ammunition in checked baggage is 5 kilograms, or 11 pounds of properly packaged ammunition.   So, if you are on a hunting trip to Alaska or to Maine, you can bring rifles, pistols, and shotguns in your checked baggage.  I have carried a couple of rifles, a shotgun, and a couple of pistols on some hunting trips.  The 11 pounds of ammunition is usually enough.  But bear spray is far harder to transport.

From tsa.gov:

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11 pounds of ammunition, but only four ounces of bear spray. Something that I did not know.
1 posted on 10/30/2015 1:00:39 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Since they won’t let you carry enough the bear spray, you’ll likely need the ammunition...


2 posted on 10/30/2015 1:05:22 PM PDT by WayneS (Yeah, it's probably sarcasm...)
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To: marktwain

I’m against making bears into aerosol sprays. What good can come of that?


3 posted on 10/30/2015 1:08:27 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: marktwain

With 11 pounds of ammunition, why would you need bear spray?


4 posted on 10/30/2015 1:08:33 PM PDT by Fido969
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To: marktwain
Alaskan bush pilots have to be real careful with that stuff - if a canister is improperly packed by someone and goes off during the flight, things can go bad.
Another story was about some hikers that were dropped off in a remote area, thought the bear spray was supposed to be used like mosquito repellent and coated themselves and their tent with capsicum.
5 posted on 10/30/2015 1:10:02 PM PDT by dainbramaged (Get out of my country now)
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To: marktwain

PUNCHLINE:

Bear scat has small bells in it and smells of pepper-spray.


6 posted on 10/30/2015 1:13:33 PM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (BREAKING: Boy Scouts of America Changes Corporate Identity to "Scouting for Boys in America")
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To: dainbramaged
Another story was about some hikers that were dropped off in a remote area, thought the bear spray was supposed to be used like mosquito repellent and coated themselves and their tent with capsicum.

Were they from LA?

7 posted on 10/30/2015 1:13:52 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: marktwain

I had no problem seeing bear spray on my last trip to AK. I was well armed and didn’t buy any. I have not seen much bear spray where I reside in CA, but there probably is some. Don’t know what it costs.


8 posted on 10/30/2015 1:15:37 PM PDT by umgud (v)
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To: dainbramaged

That reminds me of a certain high-school locker room prank.


9 posted on 10/30/2015 1:15:53 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (Falcon 105)
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To: marktwain

Amazon has it for about $30.


10 posted on 10/30/2015 1:17:23 PM PDT by umgud (v)
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To: marktwain

Well...yeah.

On one hand, you’ve got a pressurized container full of noxious gasses, being transported vertically to a low-pressure environment - increasing the pressure gradient strain on the container and making it significantly more likely to rupture. If it does rupture, you’re now circulating noxious fumes through an enclosed space carrying hundreds of trapped passengers. THIS. IS. BAD.

On the other hand, you’ve got pressure-stable tiny containers of stable powders which are, if released, not noxious and generally stay in the larger container (which is probably within 1-3 more containers). Nothing will happen unless there is a precise and forceful impact on a primer, which isn’t going to happen if properly contained. In the extreme fluke event of one of these tiny containers firing, it will in all likelihood make a small “pop”, produce a little smoke (again, within multiple containers), and otherwise have zero effect on aircraft & passengers. For any significant harm to occur, the cargo would basically have to be on fire, at which point a box of ammo popping will impose a negligible increase on the already-severe situation. No harm done.

Yes, 11 pounds of ammo going off all at once will likely cause less harm, and is far less likely to do so, than the release of 4 oz of bear spray.

There’s a reason ammunition is put in guns with “the longer the better” barrels. No chamber + no barrel = no appreciable harm.


11 posted on 10/30/2015 1:17:48 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (Trump/Cruz - Because you gotta win, first.)
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I bought five large cans of bear spray a few years ago during a family trip to the Tetons and Yellowstone. A man had been mauled to death on a trail near the Grand Canyon of the Yellowstone a week before we visited. Couldn’t bring the stuff home with us, so we dropped it off in a Bear Spray donation box in Jackson on the way to the airport. I think the drop off was either at an outdoor store or a ranger station. Some lucky visitor got ours for free in the next few days.

TIP: If you are visiting bear country, try to find the free donation boxes where departing people drop their spray off. You might save some big bucks.


12 posted on 10/30/2015 1:18:35 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not, no explanation is possible)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

The active component of bear spray is a _condiment_.


13 posted on 10/30/2015 1:18:56 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (Trump/Cruz - Because you gotta win, first.)
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To: dainbramaged
I put my shotgun (with Brennake slugs) on the plane for work in Alaska. Buy or borrow bear spray once up there. The pilots have heavy-duty containers (like a fancy PVC tube) to put the bear spray in so it doesn't discharge in the float plane or helicopter.

I've heard where someone tried a test of the bear spray by spraying stuff with it. They ended up with video of the bears rolling in the stuff!

14 posted on 10/30/2015 1:19:14 PM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts It is happening again.)
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To: marktwain

Bear Spray is a big improvement over the Bear Roll-On they sold in years past.


15 posted on 10/30/2015 1:21:41 PM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: 21twelve

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3343233/posts

The above link with video also shows that if you aren’t close enough, bear spray just pisses off the bear and makes him want to eat your kayak!


16 posted on 10/30/2015 1:23:26 PM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts It is happening again.)
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To: ctdonath2

WE have a can of wasp spray with a long stream like I think 20 ft. Well and guns. :-)


17 posted on 10/30/2015 1:24:13 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Talisker

Dept of Interior employees, from DC.

Seriously


18 posted on 10/30/2015 1:32:54 PM PDT by wrench
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To: marktwain

Buy the bear spray when you arrive in bear country, then ship it to yourself or give it away when you leave.


19 posted on 10/30/2015 1:48:18 PM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (Things are only going to get worse.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
WE have a can of wasp spray with a long stream like I think 20 ft. Well and guns. :-)

The cans of wasp spray I've seen are too large for personal defense concealed carry.

20 posted on 10/30/2015 2:03:18 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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