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1 posted on 10/29/2015 8:47:15 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee
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To: Brad from Tennessee

‘Took Army Basic at Ft Gordon GA, AUG 1967 with the M-14. Now there was a great rifle.


2 posted on 10/29/2015 8:50:13 PM PDT by onedoug
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3 posted on 10/29/2015 8:51:29 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Not really a huge change. The new ammunition is a bigger change than the basic platform. They’re still trying to get knockdown power out of what is basically a varmint round.


5 posted on 10/29/2015 8:59:46 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Brad from Tennessee

So, now soldiers will be issued what would be a double felony for us peasants, instead of a mere single felony. Machine gun and sawed-off, instead of only a machine gun. At one point in our past, “every terrible instrument of the soldier was the birthright of every American.” Now the gap increases still more.


6 posted on 10/29/2015 9:00:11 PM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Short. Won’t be able to do order arms.


8 posted on 10/29/2015 9:06:11 PM PDT by rey
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To: Brad from Tennessee

I think they are making a mistake going to the 14 inch barrel. The standard 20 inch is not exactly long to start with.

Just give it a folding stock and it will be fine. You simply lose too much velocity with that short barrel and the .5.56 needs all it can get.


10 posted on 10/29/2015 9:09:47 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
I have always found that a fixed stock provises an improved cheek weld which promotes a better sight picture and a steadier shooting position which translates into better accuracy for me.

I recently chronographed some .308 reloads out of a 24" barrel AR10t and a 16" Gen 2 DPMS Recon. The shorter barrel was shooting about 300 fps slower. That's quite a difference and translates into decreased lethality and accuracy in my opinion. Lot easier to carry the recon though.

14 posted on 10/29/2015 9:55:01 PM PDT by RC one (....and subject to the jurisdiction thereof)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

1966 Lackland AFB. Trained on the original M-16. No forward assist, no birdcage flash hider. Worked fine-then. Fell in love with the rifle.

At later military bases though, we shot M1 carbines. Then when going to SE Asia, I got to shoot the M-16 on full auto for the first time.


21 posted on 10/29/2015 10:43:04 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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Your thoughts?


23 posted on 10/29/2015 11:37:34 PM PDT by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Every Marine A Carbinesman.

The Deadliest Weapon In The World Is A Marine And His Carbine.

Hmn. I don’t like the sound of this.


25 posted on 10/30/2015 1:28:05 AM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: Brad from Tennessee

The title is slightly misleading as they are not talking about a new type of rifle or cartridge. The M16 is being phased out in favor of the M4 which is already widely used. Interesting that they say the 20 “ barrel on the M16 is no longer needed due to improvements in ammo that gives similar performance in barrels as short as 10 inches.


30 posted on 10/30/2015 3:43:45 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (Things are only going to get worse.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

The SOST round was a short-term, stop-gap measure while The Army was working on the M885A1 round. Now that the M885A1 has been fielded, the USMC and other services are beginning to adopt it as the standard round.


33 posted on 10/30/2015 4:43:29 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Are there any companies that will be able to buy these and convert them to semi-automatic only for civilian sales?

Or are they all going to be smashed?


36 posted on 10/30/2015 5:17:52 AM PDT by dila813
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41 posted on 10/30/2015 5:57:47 AM PDT by Paul46360
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