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Be sure to study the map showing the extent of China's exaggerated territorial claims and how they violate international law.
1 posted on 10/27/2015 5:31:19 AM PDT by WhiskeyX
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US says China’s limitation of children born to a woman is illegal


2 posted on 10/27/2015 5:32:47 AM PDT by knarf
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Did someone bluff or pull someone’s bluff or was this handled ahead of time for both to save face?

Almost kills me to give obummer credit for a right move.


3 posted on 10/27/2015 5:34:01 AM PDT by dp0622
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I don’t think the map routine will work on this deal. They’ve dragged tons and tons of sand, and established an actual island....and are building onto it. In five years, this island might be the size of New York City (at least the downtown section). We’ve never had anyone attempt something like this, and I think if they “build it”....it’s their property. This is not the US fight as I see it, we have no interest....no territory near it.


4 posted on 10/27/2015 5:36:02 AM PDT by pepsionice
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they know how to fight a war with America......

take it to the court room where it will linger for years and years and meanwhile things can go on as usual.

in america lawyers control everything and engaging them is the way forward


5 posted on 10/27/2015 5:37:02 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ....carson is the kinder gentler trump)
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Ordinarily uneventful. But soebarkah’s interests in this regard are ulterior, and definitely not in America’s interest. This somehow has more to do with his enemy islamism.


7 posted on 10/27/2015 5:39:45 AM PDT by onedoug
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Gulf of Tonkin II ?


10 posted on 10/27/2015 5:41:51 AM PDT by Patton@Bastogne
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The Chinese probably look at Guam and and a bunch of other Pacific Islands we claim or have claimed in the past (including the Phillipines) and begin to make comparisons.


14 posted on 10/27/2015 5:51:59 AM PDT by CMB_polarization
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Beijing Condemns US Naval Patrols in South China Sea

“China’s foreign minister Wang Yi has warned the United States not to create trouble after it was reported the US Navy had started freedom of navigation operations in the South China Sea. A senior US defence official briefed journalists that the destroyer USS Lassen had sailed through the 12-nautical mile zones of two islands in the disputed Spratly chain early on Tuesday morning.”

It’s pretty much exactly as I predicted. I believe the two were Subi and Mischief reefs. It was the USS Lassen, a Flight IIA Burke class DDG.

IMHO, it is certainly not over. But there is a good chance that the status quo will hold for a while. Although China has tremendously modernized and increased its fleet...it is not ready to challenge the US directly over such an issue. Give them another 15 years at the rate they are going...and they very may very well try to do so.

In the mean time, they will be building fortress SCS in anticipation of that happening and we cannot stop that. We can only counter it and that would take a HUGE investment in the Philippines, Malaysia, and Vietnam to do the same in terms of reclamation and then building up their new islands. We would have to have Australia, Japan, and India join with us in making that possible.

Of course under this administration, I just do not see us doing that.

So, for the next few years, it will probably be more and more of these semi-confrontations as China continues to build.

If the US went whole hog and invested in its military, we could forestall it for a good while. With the upcoming rail guns, the lasers, new carriers, the Zumwalts, etc. we will still hold the upper hand.

But short of China changing and the people of China (which I believe is the most possible thing) demanding their government become more representative...that’s the way I feel it is going to go.

For a REAL good idea of what the Chinese have done in the SCS...see my Flickr Album of the same, here:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/jeff_head/albums/72157653161943872


20 posted on 10/27/2015 6:18:39 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Semper Fidelis - Molon Labe - Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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Well, at least we have finally won the Vietnam War.

As China continues creating new territory off the coasts of Philippines, Malaysia and Vietnam, Vietnam will become a stronger and stronger ally of the USA.


23 posted on 10/27/2015 6:44:32 AM PDT by PGR88
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Obummer wants a one plane/one-ship fleet U.S. Navy.

Iraq/Syria ISIS : couple planes, couple targets = phony war

Spratly - one US ship = phony commander in chief

Obummer = POS


28 posted on 10/27/2015 7:14:29 AM PDT by bunkerhill7 ((("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione."))))))
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Obummer wants a one plane/one-ship fleet U.S. Navy.

Iraq/Syria ISIS : couple planes, couple targets = phony war

Spratly - one US ship = phony commander in chief

1958 Eisenhower sends in whole 7th fleet to Straits of Taiwan to scare the crap outa china.

2015 Obummer sends one ship.

Obummer = POS


29 posted on 10/27/2015 7:25:46 AM PDT by bunkerhill7 ((("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione."))))))
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