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Dr. Ben Carson's prescription: Abolish Medicare
Politico ^ | 10/22/2015 | Kyle Cheney

Posted on 10/22/2015 6:19:59 PM PDT by GIdget2004

Republicans have fended off accusations for years that they'd gut Medicare for seniors and end the program "as we know it."

Not Ben Carson. The former neurosurgeon acknowledges he would abolish the program altogether.

Carson, who now leads the GOP field in Iowa according to the latest Quinnipiac Poll, would eliminate the program that provides health care to 49 million senior citizens, as well as Medicaid, and replace it with a system of cradle-to-grave savings accounts which would be funded with $2,000 a year in government contributions. While rivals have been pummeled for proposing less radical changes, Carson hasn't faced the same scrutiny -- and his continued traction in polls has left GOP strategists and conservative health care wonks scratching their heads.

"This isn’t a borderline issue. The politics of this are horrific," said Doug Holtz-Eakin, head of the American Action Forum and health care adviser to Sen. John McCain's 2008 presidential campaign.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


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KEYWORDS: carson; medicare
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To: GIdget2004
I think Rand had the best healthcare solution, which is 45-year private health insurance policies, covering age 20-65, like whole life insurance. Medicare would cover 65+.

It would be a good step to transitioning back to private health insurance, and disconnecting health insurance from employment.

21 posted on 10/22/2015 6:52:09 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: WENDLE

Finished for what reason?


22 posted on 10/22/2015 6:52:26 PM PDT by GulliverSwift
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To: GulliverSwift

Let me ask you. Do you want to leave 53 million old people without health care? You have got to be MAD!!


23 posted on 10/22/2015 6:55:25 PM PDT by WENDLE (Trump is not bought . He is no puppet.)
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To: napscoordinator

Um, that’s not how much it “costs.”


24 posted on 10/22/2015 6:58:00 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: WENDLE
Do you want to leave 53 million old people without health care?

And most of us are loyal voters.

25 posted on 10/22/2015 6:58:22 PM PDT by Abby4116
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To: WENDLE

Yeah Carson would be in trouble in Iowa from all those 80 year old voters who support him there. That’s his Iowa base from what I have read. I don’t think they know about his viewpoint on Medicare.


26 posted on 10/22/2015 6:59:30 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Trailerpark Badass

Oh sorry, what 121 dollars? Goodness what a stickler. You know my point.


27 posted on 10/22/2015 6:59:44 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Walker for President 2016. The only candidate with actual real RESULTS!!!!! The rest...talkers!)
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To: WENDLE

How is it not a freebie giveaway? Reagan was rightly against Medicare and Medicaid. Don’t you recall those speeches he gave against them?

Carson didn’t say he’d eliminate it overnight either. But getting rid of this socialism would be good for this country. Everyone thinks the Uncle Sam owes them a favor.


28 posted on 10/22/2015 7:00:57 PM PDT by GulliverSwift
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To: GIdget2004
From the article:

Under the plan Carson outlined most specifically last year, the government would contribute $2,000 to each individual’s tax-free account every year, with a third of the funding earmarked for insurance to cover severe medical incidents.

Individuals and employers could contribute additional funds to the accounts, and the unspent funds could be shared among family members, which Carson says "makes every family their own insurance company."

It's different.

29 posted on 10/22/2015 7:04:24 PM PDT by Colorado Buckeye (It's the culture stupid!)
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To: GulliverSwift
How is it not a freebie giveaway? Reagan was rightly against Medicare and Medicaid.

Medicaid is a freebie, whereas Medicare is something that working people paid into for decades before retirement.

30 posted on 10/22/2015 7:07:57 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: GIdget2004

Sounds interesting, but it would never get out of Committee in Congress.

I’m sure that an enterprising individual would figure out People could spend that $2,000 on Lottery Tickets.

Which reminds me, why are we still waiting for that $2,500 Yearly Check The Dear Leader promised us when Congress passed Obamacare?


31 posted on 10/22/2015 7:08:47 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Conservatives say, America, love it or leave it. Liberals say, America, hate it and change it.)
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To: Zhang Fei

Look up the payouts. They’re nowhere near the amount that people paid in.

It’s welfare and it’s not sustainable.


32 posted on 10/22/2015 7:09:19 PM PDT by GulliverSwift
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To: napscoordinator

The latest news is, Medicare payment per mth will go up over 50% for next year. Your $108 will be in the range of $162+ next year.


33 posted on 10/22/2015 7:18:53 PM PDT by Marcella (CRUZ (Prepping can save you life today.))
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To: Marcella

still cheap as heck. It is really a bargain. Go in for a 10,000 dollar operation and you are responsible for only 2 grand. Not bad. Everyone clearly comes ahead with Medicare.


34 posted on 10/22/2015 7:21:21 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Walker for President 2016. The only candidate with actual real RESULTS!!!!! The rest...talkers!)
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To: Marcella

still cheap as heck. It is really a bargain. Go in for a 10,000 dollar operation and you are responsible for only 2 grand. Not bad. Everyone clearly comes ahead with Medicare.


35 posted on 10/22/2015 7:21:21 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Walker for President 2016. The only candidate with actual real RESULTS!!!!! The rest...talkers!)
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To: MinuteGal

Fully agree with your #14, Leni!!

Where does Carson think the $$ will come from to support his idea of the Gov’t. pumping $2000 a year into everyone’s health savings account “from cradle to grave”? Wouldn’t that be well over a half trillion each year?


36 posted on 10/22/2015 7:25:22 PM PDT by octex
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To: GIdget2004

So, is the Doctor going to just wave his magic wand or sprinkle pixie dust to come up with the funds?

This sounds about as socialistic as Bernie's plan for free college education for everyone.

Money doesn't grow on trees. So the government just prints more when it needs more?


37 posted on 10/22/2015 7:28:50 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: GIdget2004
Carson, who now leads the GOP field in Iowa according to the latest Quinnipiac Poll, would eliminate the program that provides health care to 49 million senior citizens, as well as Medicaid, and replace it with a system of cradle-to-grave savings accounts which would be funded with $2,000 a year in government contributions.

If he is suggesting that seniors give up their Medicare for $ 2,000 per year, then let me be the first to say that he has been misunderstood. Forget anything he said, that is not what he meant.

I oppose Medicare personally, but I am not running for office. If he were to seriously pursue that proposal, he would be left with 5% of the senior vote. This is an impossible proposal for a national candidate.

38 posted on 10/22/2015 7:29:43 PM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: napscoordinator

I mean it is subsidized.


39 posted on 10/22/2015 7:29:45 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: GIdget2004

As someone who just went on Medicare, all I can say is that it won’t be long before it is useless. Compared to the care my mother got during a serious illness, today they won’t even pay for a simple blood test to see why I am continually anemic. Pretty soon, they’ll cover nothing. Decisions are made by faceless bean counters who wouldn’t could only be an improvement.


40 posted on 10/22/2015 7:33:48 PM PDT by Inkie
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