Posted on 10/20/2015 6:37:47 PM PDT by BlackFemaleArmyColonel
For three months, we’ve all heard all kinds of assumptions about Donald Trump’s Republican presidential campaign. He’d peaked. His act had worn thin. His lead was simply unsustainable. And yet, the latest polling continues to speak for itself. Consider the results of the latest NBC News/Wall Street Journal survey, released last night.
1. Donald Trump: 25% (up four points from September) 2. Ben Carson: 22% (up two points) 3. Marco Rubio: 13% (up two points) 4. Ted Cruz: 9% (up four points) 5. Jeb Bush: 8% (up one point) 6. Carly Fiorina: 7% (down four points)
The remaining candidates are at 3% or lower, including Chris Christie, who has seen his support steadily drop in recent months, falling to just 1% in this poll. Trump’s 25% showing, meanwhile, represents the strongest support any GOP candidate has in any NBC/WSJ poll this year.
A new CNN poll offers similar results:
1. Donald Trump: 27% (up three points from September) 2. Ben Carson: 22% (up eight points) 3. Jeb Bush: 8% (down one point) 3. Marco Rubio: 8% (down three points)
The remaining candidates are at 5% or lower. Fiorina, in particular, has seen her standing collapse, dropping from 15% to 4% in the CNN poll just over the course of one month. Regardless, the burning question in Republican circles is starting to shift from “When will Trump falter?” to “What if he doesn’t?”
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When did Trump ever say that anyone he deports will never be allowed to become a citizen when they come back? I’ve heard enough of what he’s said to be 99% sure he has NEVER said that. Cruz has said the current illegals will never get to be citizens.
He has detailed how he will appoint strictly conservative justices time and again. And you’d be hard-pressed to find anyone else who would successfully be able to sniff them out as well as Cruz.
Okay. But my personal opinion, for whatever it may be worth, is that Cruz will not prevail in this cycle. For just one data point, consider this. Cruz has taken big bucks from Club for Growth. CfG has the reputation of being pro-amnesty/pro-open border. Now CfG has kicked off a million dollar ad campaign against Trump in IA.
Trump supporters are nowhere near as uninformed as Cruz supporters imagine we are. Talk about cold, hard anger; that just became an outmoded, pathetic understatement. What Trump supporters feel toward Club for Growth is unquantifiable. Shame on Cruz for taking their $.
Club for Growth is not an enemy of the conservative movement no matter what Trump’s dishonest spin says. They are a wonderful pro-free market, capitalist organization we should be happy to have on our side. They bashed Trump on his past support for tax hikes and eminent domain, as well as his current support for tariffs, and rightly so.
As a consumer, I LOVE cheap imports. I have no interest in paying a higher price for an American-made good. If some other country can make it with the same quality for less, I want to have the freedom to buy it from there. If U.S. citizens are running that business so poorly that they can’t compete, they should get in another line of business.
Club for Growth is for school choice, balanced budgets, entitlement reform, deregulation, lower taxes, tort reform and free trade. If their agenda was put in place, we would have a massive economic boom.
http://www.clubforgrowth.org/issues/
As I said, we’re not as stupid as Cruz supporters think we are:
‘Trump and his team have a point, and it’s not like the Club for Growth has the best track record of conservatism. They backed Sen. Jeff Flake (R-AZ)
in his election—someone who has by all accounts turned out to be a disaster in Washington—and have worked unsuccessfully to primary some conservatives like Rep. Paul Gosar (R-AZ), who’s been one of the biggest advocates for conservatism in Washington.
The latest questionable move by the Club for Growth is that they published a white paper that praised Jeb Bush’s record when he was Florida’s governor. The Club also sat on the sidelines while the entire permanent political class pushed the Republican Party to embrace amnesty for illegal aliens, and this Congress has aggressively pushed for Obamatrade.’
Surely that wouldn’t be the first time a conservative backed a candidate who turned out to be a disappointment.
Never heard of Gosar.
An article on their site offers a mixed review of Jeb Bush. Almost every conservative commentator including Hannity and Ingraham claims Jeb Bush had a conservative record as governor in FL.
Club for Growth supports free trade and says they have supported basically every free trade agreement. I agree and believe that conservatism = free trade.
I couldn’t tell you their position on amnesty since their site doesn’t seem to mention it in an obvious place I can find. I’m still waiting to hear the candidate who wants to deport every illegal and make sure they never come back. Trump supports bringing back all the “good ones” in an expedited fashion right after deportation.
‘I couldn’t tell you their position on amnesty since their site doesn’t seem to mention it in an obvious place I can find.’
I’m planning to reply at greater length when I stop laughing so hard I can barely type.
Why do you suppose you can’t find any clue re Club for Growth’s amnesty/border position on their homepage? Border security/anti-amnesty are very popular positions with the conservative base. If CfG supported those positions, why would they hesitate to say so?
This Paul Gosar that you’ve never heard of is a staunch/good conservative. Here is his immigration plank;
‘Immigration and Border Security
There is an immigration crisis in the United States, and the crisis is a failure to secure our border and enforce the Rule of Law.’
Why would Club for Growth have tried to primary him? Why would CfG support Flake who is notoriously open borders?
Look, even CfG’s supporters/defenders admit they are “weak” on amnesty. That is an understatement. CfG is actively seeking an alignment/partnership with the Kochs, and they too are solidly open border.
The principle characteristic of the pro-amnesty/open border crowd is dishonesty. They never admit how anti-sovereign-America they are. This is one reason true conservatives despise them. On top of selling the country out to the Cheap Labor Express, they lie about their position/actions. That makes them scum. Period.
The above post should have been to you.
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