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Hawkish Enthusiasm for the Insane “No-Fly Zone” in Syria
The American Conservative ^ | October 20, 2015 | Daniel Larison

Posted on 10/20/2015 2:20:30 PM PDT by all the best

The New York Times reports on the hawkish presidential candidates’ enthusiasm for a “no-fly zone” in Syria. This quote from Jeb Bush may be the most irresponsible:

“The argument is, ‘Well, we’ll get into conflict with Russia,’” former Gov. Jeb Bush of Florida said on CBS last week, referring to what critics say about the no-fly zone idea. “Well, maybe Russia shouldn’t want to be in conflict with us. I mean, this is a place where American leadership is desperately needed.”

Bush’s attitude is inexcusable, and it shows once again that he has disqualified himself as much as any of the other hawkish candidates by taking this position. He is proposing that the U.S. should impose a “no-fly zone” in a country where it has no authority to do so and risk a conflict with a nuclear-armed government whose forces have been invited in by the government of that country. Bush brushes aside the most significant argument against his reckless policy with the equivalent of saying, “Well, oh yeah?” Nothing could be more dangerous or dim-witted than courting great power conflict because of a childish obsession with demonstrating our “leadership.”

A “no-fly zone” in Syria would risk bringing U.S. forces into direct conflict with Russian forces in a country where we have no vital interests. There is no way that this a risk worth taking when the U.S. has so little at stake there. The truth is that any candidate willing to risk war with Russia for the sake of a Syrian “no-fly zone” is unfit to be president, and any candidate that endorses this option as a bluff is too foolish to be allowed anywhere near real power. These hawkish candidates are doing us a favor by broadcasting as loudly as possible that they can’t be trusted with the presidency. It remains to be seen if the voters are paying sufficient attention to make them pay for their recklessness.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: astroturf; jeb; putinsbuttboys; russia; russianstooges; syria; vladtheimploder

1 posted on 10/20/2015 2:20:31 PM PDT by all the best
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To: all the best

So who are the other candidates that have suggested this. Jeb was already unfit.


2 posted on 10/20/2015 2:22:03 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: all the best

I agree. A no fly zone there is idiotic.

The implementation of one would be a big feather in the cap of those claiming this nation is run by a big defense industry conglomerate.

War with Russia would be inevitable. It seem to be a declaration of war on Russia to implement a no-fly zone over it’s objections.

Never should have participated in the Syrian conflict at any level.

“Oh the humanitarian implications!”

War with Russia has no implications humanitarian wise?


3 posted on 10/20/2015 2:25:22 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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To: FreedomPoster

Fiorina and Graham were quick to endorse an act of war against Russia and Syria.


4 posted on 10/20/2015 2:25:28 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: all the best

It’s especially stupid since Putin is fighting against ISIS, while Obama is covertly aiding them and their brother terrorists.


5 posted on 10/20/2015 2:28:02 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: jjotto

Agreed. I was actually considering Fiorina until she started saber rattling at Russia. Is she insane or just a McCain puppet?


6 posted on 10/20/2015 2:33:21 PM PDT by Martin Tell (Victrix causa diis placuit sed victa Catoni.)
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To: FreedomPoster

Carly, Grahamnesty, Christie, seems like a couple more maybe.
Anybody who believes that there are moderates in Syria shouldn’t be President.


7 posted on 10/20/2015 2:38:42 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Martin Tell

Both


8 posted on 10/20/2015 2:39:38 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: jjotto

Two huge “heck, NO!” candidates as well.


9 posted on 10/20/2015 2:41:23 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: all the best

Go to war with Russia because they are killing Isis terrorists. Insanity.


10 posted on 10/20/2015 2:48:47 PM PDT by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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To: FreedomPoster

Fiorina, Linda Graham,

Nott sure who else thinks SYRIA is worth WW3 or a single American pilot

Maybe Jeb’s son should enlist


11 posted on 10/20/2015 2:55:59 PM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: silverleaf

Hillary, Tom Cotton(!), McCain...


12 posted on 10/20/2015 3:01:54 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: jjotto

Oh and Governor Krispe Kreme from NJ

Another schmuck who should send his own son to die for Syria so the US looks tough


13 posted on 10/20/2015 3:05:05 PM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: DoughtyOne

There is no longer any practical way to enforce a “no-fly zone”. If anything, it would be the RUSSIANS who would have the capability in place to carry out such a policy.

And ISIS does not have much of an air assault component anyway.


14 posted on 10/20/2015 3:08:51 PM PDT by alloysteel (Do not argue with trolls. That means they win.)
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To: FreedomPoster

All of the Establishment hacks endorsed the idiotic “No Fly Zone” against Russian jets including: Hillary, Rubio, Christie, McCain, Jeb, Fiorina, etc.

Party...matters a lot less than spouting the official CIA doctrine in public...to the Beltway Elite Masters of the Universe.


15 posted on 10/20/2015 3:09:30 PM PDT by Southack (The one thing preppers need from the 1st World? http://tinyurl.com/ktfwljc .)
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To: alloysteel

Agreed.


16 posted on 10/20/2015 3:35:23 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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To: FreedomPoster
So who are the other candidates that have suggested this.(?)

Carly, Crispy and Grahamnesty for sure. I think Rubio too. All the losers who want to look "tough". As Trump says, "Tough and stupid, that's the worst. Right?"

17 posted on 10/20/2015 3:49:48 PM PDT by Hugin ("First thing--get yourself a firearm!" Sheriff Ed Galt, Last Man Standing.)
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To: Hugin

Oh wow, he’s so spot on in so many random quotes I run across, it’s almost scary.


18 posted on 10/20/2015 4:17:24 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: all the best

The insanity will only get worse as we go forward.


19 posted on 10/20/2015 5:12:36 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The use of the name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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