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The Republican Front Runner is a Huge Fan of Michael Moore
Red State ^ | October 20, 2015 | Leon H. Wolf

Posted on 10/20/2015 2:43:45 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

What a long way that we have come in this country. The Republican front runner in 2015 is parroting Michael Moore’s 2004 propaganda film Fahrenheit 9/11 almost verbatim and there’s actually a discussion as to whether this constituted good politics. Somehow almost everyone who is commenting on this story is completely missing the boat as to what Trump’s parroting of Michael Moore’s talking points actually means in the context of the current Republican debates.

In the first place, I don’t think Trump has any identifiable core beliefs about what happened on 9/11 and who is to blame. I don’t really think that Trump has frankly though through the implications of what he’s saying with respect to what Bush should have known about 9/11 and what institutional changes he could have been expected to put into place in the 8 months he was in office prior to the worst terrorist attack in United States history. All Trump knows is that he perceives this attack as being damaging to Jeb Bush, and so he is prepared to use it.

Second, I think it is incorrect to say that these comments by Trump make him a “truther.” Trump is not saying, at least as far as I can tell, that Bush directly caused 9/11, or that he had foreknowledge of 9/11 and chose to do nothing about it. Trump isn’t quoting from Loose Change, he’s quoting from Michael Moore. His argument is not that Bush was complicit, his argument is that Bush was incompetent......

The point is that Donald Trump is willingly attacking Jeb Bush from the left – and not just the center left, but the fringe, extremist left who were already routed conclusively in the 2004 elections...

(Excerpt) Read more at redstate.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: conservatism; gopprimary; politics; trump; trumpswabs
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The world is mad.


No, you are mad. Because Trump kicked your chosen candidate’s butt.

Sorry about that.


61 posted on 10/20/2015 3:31:47 AM PDT by samtheman (2014: Voters elect Repubs to congress... 2015: Repubs defund NOTHING... 2016: Trump/(Cruz or Palin))
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To: 1rudeboy

Trump’s poll numbers just hit a record high this morning.

...jeepers.


62 posted on 10/20/2015 3:33:17 AM PDT by Eddie01 (Soul Finger by the Barkays)
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To: Eddie01

Oh dear, then I suppose I should jump on board, even he did something stupid.


63 posted on 10/20/2015 3:35:52 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

That “two-bit” player is the chosen candidate of the Republican Establishment, with its large wealthy donor base.

The ONLY reason Jeb looks like a two-bit player NOW is because of Donald Trump.

But the Trump critics are too blind to see the obvious.

Trump kicked Walker out of the race (once seen as the one threat to Jeb) and now Trump is kicking Jeb out of the race (once seen as the Republican-equivalent of the Democrat coronation going on across the aisle).

I pity your blindness. There’s a great show going on and you’re missing it.


64 posted on 10/20/2015 3:37:54 AM PDT by samtheman (2014: Voters elect Repubs to congress... 2015: Repubs defund NOTHING... 2016: Trump/(Cruz or Palin))
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Get.Lost


65 posted on 10/20/2015 3:39:17 AM PDT by SMM48
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To: 1rudeboy

Whatever it takes to eradicate the Bushes. If we have to hang 9/11 around the necks of Jeb and W then so be it. This is about the survival of this nation and the Bushes have been paramount in its destruction for the last 35 years. They need to be driven deep into the ground and made so that no right thinking American will ever vote for a Bush again. Republicans never get this simple concept except when RINOs destroy conservatives. Stooges like Leon Wolf don’t like the tables turned on them.


66 posted on 10/20/2015 3:39:29 AM PDT by usafa92 (Conservative in Jersey)
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To: 1rudeboy

Oh dear, maybe you should consider it wasn’t that stupid.


67 posted on 10/20/2015 3:39:39 AM PDT by Eddie01 (Soul Finger by the Barkays)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

You get it.


68 posted on 10/20/2015 3:40:49 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: mazda77; Cincinatus' Wife

Your linkie text is not what he said, and you know it. Trump did say in your link that if his immigration policies were in effect, he was not sure if it would have happened. He did not say 911 wouldn’t have happened like you implied. Seems as though everyone keeps missing why he made the comment in the first place. He said specifically he did not blame GW but instead was making a point of fact about Jeb running around saying that nothing bad happened under his brother by saying that “He kept us safe”, period.

So CW, who is it that you are shilling for now, or are your sensitivities still hurting because Walker quit? Seems like your field of establishment pukes poll numbers looks more like a binary count, you know, all ones and zeros.


Thank you, mazda77. Excellent response to an obviously agenda-driven thread posting.


69 posted on 10/20/2015 3:42:26 AM PDT by samtheman (2014: Voters elect Repubs to congress... 2015: Repubs defund NOTHING... 2016: Trump/(Cruz or Palin))
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To: Cringing Negativism Network; Cincinatus' Wife
So you’re on an anti-Trump page now.

So who do you support please?

cincintus widow is now for hildabutchbitch because they are both wymen.

Both know nothing other than whining and moaning, and both are always against something or someone.

widow, keep up your Trump bashing, it always turns more people toward Trump because of your constant, incessant wind pissen.

Keep it up, you have become a a known nag and are a spoof of your former, intelligent self.

I feel pity for the bitterness that haunts you.

Keep it up.

70 posted on 10/20/2015 3:43:44 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Exterminate the terrorist savages, everywhere.)
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To: USS Alaska

Uh oh.

(ducks behind sofa)


71 posted on 10/20/2015 3:45:01 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html)
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To: usafa92
If we have to hang 9/11 around the necks of Jeb and W then so be it.

In all fairness, the Gorelick Memo stovepiped intelligence that could have prevented the attack had it been shared by the agencies involved. That weakness in the system, a critical flaw, came from the Clinton Administration.

Bush's only mistake was in not realizing that all his intelligence assets were blindered by that directive and in that he failed to remedy the situation before the attack.

72 posted on 10/20/2015 3:45:26 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Eddie01
I suppose you are correct. After years of listening to Dem talking points, and how they were disparaged here, I should've waited for a Republican presidential candidate to make them. It's all ok, now.
/sarc
73 posted on 10/20/2015 3:48:03 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: nathanbedford

Trump might be contemplating a general election campaign in which he is fully divested of any Bush taint. Donald Trump will not pay the electoral price for George Bush’s ineptitude. This is a perfectly reasonable election strategy to pursue and it is not gratuitous and it certainly is not “childish.”


Thank you. I realize you are not a Trump supporter so thank you all the more, from someone who is, and someone who has always respected you.

I have been saying from the very beginning of this issue of “9/11 on Bush’s watch” that this is general election strategy on Trump’s part.

I also see it as good primary politics, getting Jeb to defend George.


74 posted on 10/20/2015 3:50:47 AM PDT by samtheman (2014: Voters elect Repubs to congress... 2015: Repubs defund NOTHING... 2016: Trump/(Cruz or Palin))
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

That headline. I’m pretty sure it wasn’t your idea ... ;o)


75 posted on 10/20/2015 3:50:48 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a Simple Manner for a Happy Life :o)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Do you realize what a disservice your words are to Freepers.....especially long time through thick and thin Freepers .....who have carefully weighed and evaluated the pros and cons of Donald Trump....

...and have found him worthy.

Why do you think your opinion should negate theirs?

This is what bothers me the most.....
You don’t like Donald Trump, I get it

....but somehow you think your opinion gives you the right to ridicule and denigrate those who do support him.


76 posted on 10/20/2015 3:52:06 AM PDT by Guenevere (If.the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do....)
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To: Liberty Valance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oEsWi88Qv0
The Third Man - Anton Karas


77 posted on 10/20/2015 3:56:56 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a Simple Manner for a Happy Life :o)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I think Trump is the true Democrat candidate, putting on the Republican sheep’s coat in the ultimate Machiavellian attempt by the pro-Obama ilk to take the next election electorally.

How is he really republican when they are so inept and his beliefs are so Democrat?

Smart. He will win. I/we(USA) will lose again, short term.


78 posted on 10/20/2015 3:57:39 AM PDT by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
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To: Cringing Negativism Network; Cincinatus' Wife
Uh oh.

(ducks behind sofa)

No ducking here.

I have been a long time friend and adversary with Wifey.

Been with and against her positions, but she has gone off the rails.

I'm still a Cruzer, and prove it via my donations {which continue}, but I face the world as it is.

Losing Walker snapped her judgment and now, like a bitter old widow, knows only negativity.

In one of her posts, she axes, "Why should I be for anyone, the world is mad"?

That question answers itself and points to the widow's state of madness.

Sorrow and pity and prayers for her.

79 posted on 10/20/2015 3:58:12 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Exterminate the terrorist savages, everywhere.)
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To: If You Want It Fixed - Fix It

Trump’s big positions are to bring back American industry, and to stop importing ever more illegal aliens.

How are Trump’s positions democrat?

Trump is standing up strongly for America. And furthmore, he’s about the only person anywhere, who is.

Trump gets it.


80 posted on 10/20/2015 3:59:25 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html)
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