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The Republican Front Runner is a Huge Fan of Michael Moore
Red State ^ | October 20, 2015 | Leon H. Wolf

Posted on 10/20/2015 2:43:45 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

What a long way that we have come in this country. The Republican front runner in 2015 is parroting Michael Moore’s 2004 propaganda film Fahrenheit 9/11 almost verbatim and there’s actually a discussion as to whether this constituted good politics. Somehow almost everyone who is commenting on this story is completely missing the boat as to what Trump’s parroting of Michael Moore’s talking points actually means in the context of the current Republican debates.

In the first place, I don’t think Trump has any identifiable core beliefs about what happened on 9/11 and who is to blame. I don’t really think that Trump has frankly though through the implications of what he’s saying with respect to what Bush should have known about 9/11 and what institutional changes he could have been expected to put into place in the 8 months he was in office prior to the worst terrorist attack in United States history. All Trump knows is that he perceives this attack as being damaging to Jeb Bush, and so he is prepared to use it.

Second, I think it is incorrect to say that these comments by Trump make him a “truther.” Trump is not saying, at least as far as I can tell, that Bush directly caused 9/11, or that he had foreknowledge of 9/11 and chose to do nothing about it. Trump isn’t quoting from Loose Change, he’s quoting from Michael Moore. His argument is not that Bush was complicit, his argument is that Bush was incompetent......

The point is that Donald Trump is willingly attacking Jeb Bush from the left – and not just the center left, but the fringe, extremist left who were already routed conclusively in the 2004 elections...

(Excerpt) Read more at redstate.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: conservatism; gopprimary; politics; trump; trumpswabs
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To: 1rudeboy

I basically don’t attack anyone.

However I am strongly for Trump. Very much so.

He’s for rebuilding America. He’s for bringing jobs back to America.

He’s for defending our borders. He’s nearly perfect on the issues. America needs jobs again.

Go Trump. :D


21 posted on 10/20/2015 3:06:41 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html)
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To: 9YearLurker

If it comforts you to say things like that, I can’t stop you.

It’s all you have, and it’s Alinsky.


22 posted on 10/20/2015 3:07:01 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

WOW! Donald Trump can “cross the aisle” and appeal to Democrats! ;-)


23 posted on 10/20/2015 3:08:28 AM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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To: SubMareener

I’m told that’s what a “smart, successful businessman” does.


24 posted on 10/20/2015 3:09:50 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Then there should never be a reason to ask another FReeper the question you asked.


25 posted on 10/20/2015 3:10:34 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

Tell the truth and deal with it.


26 posted on 10/20/2015 3:11:08 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "Forward lies the crown, and onward is the goal.")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The truth hurts—doesn’t it?


27 posted on 10/20/2015 3:11:59 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Red state is such a pathetic, loser website. They’re giving up readership in an attempt to smear Trump.

Apparently red state _still_ doesn’t understand what’s going on.


28 posted on 10/20/2015 3:12:24 AM PDT by Principled (...the Supreme Court of the United States favors some laws over others...)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Your linkie text is not what he said, and you know it. Trump did say in your link that if his immigration policies were in effect, he was not sure if it would have happened. He did not say 911 wouldn’t have happened like you implied. Seems as though everyone keeps missing why he made the comment in the first place. He said specifically he did not blame GW but instead was making a point of fact about Jeb running around saying that nothing bad happened under his brother by saying that “He kept us safe”, period.

So CW, who is it that you are shilling for now, or are your sensitivities still hurting because Walker quit? Seems like your field of establishment pukes poll numbers looks more like a binary count, you know, all ones and zeros.


29 posted on 10/20/2015 3:12:43 AM PDT by mazda77
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Michael Moore made a movie with the word “truth” in it, yes?


30 posted on 10/20/2015 3:12:44 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

How many Trump critics does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

Don’t they see what Trump is doing here? Obviously not.

Donald Trump has Jeb Bush arguing about George Bush.

That’s got to be the campaign coup of the century.

But the Trump critics can’t see that.

I don’t know how many of them it takes... but I don’t want them up on a ladder in my house.


31 posted on 10/20/2015 3:13:25 AM PDT by samtheman (2014: Voters elect Repubs to congress... 2015: Repubs defund NOTHING... 2016: Trump/(Cruz or Palin))
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To: 9YearLurker

Like I said, you always resort to Alinsky postings (truth has no part of it).


32 posted on 10/20/2015 3:13:34 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: 1rudeboy

On the contrary.

Who one is opposed to, is very much a matter of who one supports.

It was an honest, and innocent question.


33 posted on 10/20/2015 3:13:35 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Well, I’m ambivalent about Trump, but if his supporters cannot see that he pulled a bonehead maneuver here . . . jeepers.


34 posted on 10/20/2015 3:15:07 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: samtheman

“Donald Trump has Jeb Bush arguing about George Bush.”

Trump has us talking about Trump.

Period.

The Left is swooning - in love with how he will compare favorably with Hillary.


35 posted on 10/20/2015 3:16:26 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: 1rudeboy

Michael Moore makes fauxumentories. The result isn’t true.


36 posted on 10/20/2015 3:16:40 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "Forward lies the crown, and onward is the goal.")
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To: Smokin' Joe

I thought W going after Ted Cruz was rather odd, considering there has been very little direct fire between Jeb and Ted. Bush has to know, that his reaction only serves to elevate Cruz profile. That said, I thought Ted gave a great and classy response to W.


37 posted on 10/20/2015 3:16:43 AM PDT by lee martell
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The world is waking up, CW......
......and so are the good folks of Free Republic....
........they can spot your anti-Trump posts easily!


38 posted on 10/20/2015 3:18:07 AM PDT by Guenevere (If.the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do....)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
If the people supporting Trump had any interest at all in supporting a candidate who would advance the conservative movement

There aren't any conservatives...The word has come to be meaningless...What is this Red State??? Is it like Red China???

The Trump movement isn’t about Trump, it’s about the members of the movement wanting to be seen as as a political force that exists in rebellion to a shadowy conspiracy that they can’t even accurately describe, much less state a coherent objection to. Each person belonging to it fancies themselves to be the political equivalent of James Dean. However, like the many idiot imitators that Dean inspired, they are unable to see that their mindless imitation in the name of rebellion just makes them conformists of a particularly unimaginative stripe.

And then the author does the same thing he/she falsely accuses Trump of...

In the meantime, the longer Trump remains in front, the more permanent damage he will do to the ability of future Republican candidates to win elections

Good...That Party has outlived its usefulness...

39 posted on 10/20/2015 3:20:29 AM PDT by Iscool (Izlam and radical Izlam are different the same way a wolf and a wolf in sheeps clothing are differen)
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To: lee martell
W going after Ted just identifies who he thinks the real danger is to the status quo. That speaks volumes.
40 posted on 10/20/2015 3:20:53 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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