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New tool can identify soldiers most likely to commit violent crimes, study shows
LA Times, via Stars & Stripes ^ | October 6, 2015 | Alan Zarembo

Posted on 10/07/2015 3:12:50 AM PDT by Timber Rattler

In the science fiction thriller “Minority Report,” a police force known as PreCrime uses mutated human psychics to identify criminals before they act.

The U.S. Army is working toward a similar goal — not by reading minds but by crunching data.

Using the military records of all 975,057 soldiers who served during a six-year period, researchers have developed an algorithm they hope can help prevent severe, violent crimes by identifying those at greatest risk of becoming perpetrators.

They would not be pre-arrested, but rather given counseling or other interventions aimed at heading off violence.

(Excerpt) Read more at stripes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: database; military; ptsd
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To: Timber Rattler

A tool like this would be useful in government to find the truth.


21 posted on 10/07/2015 4:54:53 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Timber Rattler

No, that’s profilng!!!! We don’t profile, that’s rayciss! Oh I forgot, that only applies to black crime statistics!


22 posted on 10/07/2015 5:29:17 AM PDT by mrsmel (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: tet68

If this government was serious about fighting crime, they’ve had decades of crime statistics to start the ball rolling, but they’ve ignored them, because they don’t like what hose statistics consistently show. The rape statistics, years after year, are especially telling, and show the complete opposite of the false narrative the msm keeps trying to present, with the proven-false rape accusations by black women against white men, while black males-I mean “teens”-are raping amd murdering white women, even white women upwatds of 80 years ols and older, one 101 yo woman that I know of.


23 posted on 10/07/2015 5:34:26 AM PDT by mrsmel (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Timber Rattler

Will be nice sometime when the libs are thrown out and our military can return to being a fighting force instead of a social experiment.


24 posted on 10/07/2015 5:58:37 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag ( Anything FREELY-GIVEN by the government was TAKEN from someone else)
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To: ThePatriotsFlag

It’s Putin who will throw out the libs.


25 posted on 10/07/2015 6:13:54 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Timber Rattler

Did they include being homosexual? Because that is a real marker of violent tendencies.


26 posted on 10/07/2015 6:18:29 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: tbpiper

“They will be at least as accurate as the climate change algorithms.”

No. The numbers reported are a lot better than the Climate Change algos. The problem with this kind of study is the false positives. Even though a young man falls in the high risk group, the probability he commit a violent crime is probably still quite low.

So people get labeled as “likely violent offenders” and the gvt spends a bunch of money counseling folks who don’t actually need help.

We do this kind of assessment all the time. If you’re walking down the street and encounter 1) a young man with tats in a hoodie smoking a cigarette and doing the pimp roll or 2) a 55 year old man wearing a suit and carrying a briefcase, you correctly assess the odds you will be mugged from 1) as many times higher than 2). So 2) is in the high risk group and you cross the street.

Notwithstanding that, the probability that 1) is a mugger is actually quite low. You have mostly false positives even though your informal algorithm is quite correct.


27 posted on 10/07/2015 6:20:41 AM PDT by ModelBreaker (')
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To: Timber Rattler
They would not be pre-arrested, but rather given counseling or other interventions aimed at heading off violence.

"other interventions" - such as say, taking away their firearms? Maybe "recommending" medications that of course you're free to take or not take. But if you don't go on the meds, well, we have to take action to protect you, your family, others in the community...

You know that is already in-plan for a future expansion of whatever this starts out as. You know they'll gin up some statistics to show how effective this is, and expand it to the civilian population.

28 posted on 10/07/2015 6:31:30 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Timber Rattler

It would be easy to identify likely violent people. Find out which ones have a bad or non-connection with their father.


29 posted on 10/07/2015 7:34:11 AM PDT by lurk
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To: ModelBreaker

Sorry. I should have had a sarcasm tag. I wouldn’t trust this model any more than I would a climate model in that it could be manipulated to give a desired result. I guess my tin-foil is showing.


30 posted on 10/07/2015 9:02:22 AM PDT by tbpiper
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To: tbpiper

“Sorry. I should have had a sarcasm tag. I wouldn’t trust this model any more than I would a climate model in that it could be manipulated to give a desired result. I guess my tin-foil is showing.”

No. I caught the sarcasm. My only point is that the violence models are probably not in the same bogus league as the climate models. I’ve done some work modeling prisoner recidivism in the past. This is an area where you can build pretty good models because the data are actually predictive of results in the real world. But even though the models are good statistically, the false positive rate is pretty bad. That’s all.


31 posted on 10/07/2015 9:33:23 AM PDT by ModelBreaker (')
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To: Timber Rattler

“They would not be pre-arrested, but rather given countering or other interventions aimed at heading off violence.”

Re-education is not arrest? I guess it wouldn’t be subject to Constitutional safeguards.


32 posted on 10/07/2015 3:21:57 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (CA the sanctuary state for stupid.)
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