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Vetting Bernie: Mission Impossible? Finding Bernie Sander's Kibbutz
Haaretz (Israeli newspaper) ^ | 8/30/2015 | Judy Maltz

Posted on 09/30/2015 11:08:27 AM PDT by Jack Black

The Democratic presidential candidate waxes lyrical about his time spent on an Israeli kibbutz in the 1960s. But which one? Haaretz tries to find out. The assignment should have been a no-brainer: Find out what kibbutz Bernie Sanders volunteered at in 1963 or 1964. The presidential candidate has described the time he spent on an Israeli collective farm as a formative experience. Not surprisingly, many Israelis have been wondering which exact kibbutz had such an impact on the Jewish socialist and rising star of the U.S. presidential campaign.

(Excerpt) Read more at haaretz.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Israel; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016; bernie; berniesanders; democrat; israel; israeli; kibbutz; sanders; sanders2016; socialist
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To: Jack Black

Thank you! I found it on my own and am glad you posted it, too!


21 posted on 09/30/2015 12:07:55 PM PDT by golux
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To: Jack Black

I think Abraham Lincoln should be granted honorary Orthodox status. I mean, the black suits, the hat, the beard... plus he WAS named “Abe”.


22 posted on 09/30/2015 12:17:04 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Read Write Repeat
It's always been the problem with Ideal Marxism. It works, with a small group of idealists working toward a common goal. As long as a balance is reached, production = consumption, everything functions. This balance requires a stasis that can't be maintained, ever. Stupids can't understand that.

When there is enough surplus to buy more, people start thinking outside the Socialist Box. Good Socialists recognize that this is a loss of power.

23 posted on 09/30/2015 1:29:54 PM PDT by jonascord (It's sarcasm unless otherwise noted... This time, it's not.)
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To: Jack Black

It makes you wonder when a person does not want to reveal that information. It should take 10 minutes— you just call the campaign.


24 posted on 09/30/2015 1:35:04 PM PDT by freespirit2012
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To: All

Sanders has a “memory which is
seared — seared — in” him.


25 posted on 09/30/2015 1:42:31 PM PDT by pluvmantelo (My hope for America died 11-06-12.)
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To: freespirit2012
I'm now building a time line of Draft Laws and cross indexing with Bernie's sketch biographic information. It appears to me that he was eligible for the draft and unshielded from deferments from at least Aug 0f 1965 (when the married deferrmnent was ended) until he turned 27 in Sept of 1968. It looks like he went from "student" to "married". A cynic might wonder how legit the marriage was, especially given that he was running in far-left circles at Univ. of Chicago.

The marriage, regardless of why it was begun did not last long. It ended in divorce two years later, and did not produce any children (although Bernie for many years failed to correct a common misconception that his son, Levi, born in 1969, was from his first marriage. In fact Levi Noah was born out of wedlock. Perhaps a stigma still attached to this fact 30 years ago when Bernie began his political career.

26 posted on 09/30/2015 1:56:30 PM PDT by Jack Black ( Disarmament of a targeted group is one of the surest early warning signs of future genocide.)
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To: mosaicwolf

Israel has pretty much given up on the Kibbutz idea since they didn’t work. There are still some there but they are more like CAPITALIST companies.


27 posted on 09/30/2015 2:01:22 PM PDT by PJ-Comix (DUmmie Skinner: Bought & Paid For By Hillary)
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To: golux

Pretty sure it was Kibbutz Soros.


28 posted on 09/30/2015 2:20:54 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Jack Black
Traveling to Israel would have been a non event relative to the draft. Unless he became an Israeli citizen, he didn't, in which case he'd not only be subject to our leaky draft, but service in the IDF, which is less leaky.

You pose an interesting question though, and the timeline would be interesting.

Born in 1941, pre lottery the draft covered individuals to 29. Graduated college and was married in 1964. No biggie. Sure he had a college deferment, which is fine. I had one, so did lots of people.

Having served with married individuals I took a look at the deferment rules. Only from internet sources, he was married in 1964. The marriage exemption didn't disappear till late 1965, and I think it was grandfathered. So Bernie was OK.

Maybe. In 1966 he divorced his wife of two years. My draft board would have noticed that.

I assume that's when the CO appeal kicked in. How long could that take?

When the lottery came in in 1969 , the birth years began at 1944, passing him by.

So somehow Bernie skated from 1966 to 1969, with a deferment of some sort.

Could it take 3 years to resolve a CO application? Maybe for a University of Chicago grad, but I assume you'd probably need connections.

29 posted on 09/30/2015 7:18:05 PM PDT by SJackson (Everybody has a plan until they get hit. Mike Tyson)
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To: Jack Black

Just noticed your second post. I’d agree, 68 to 70 would have been a long time to resolve a CO application. When the nation needed bodies.


30 posted on 09/30/2015 7:20:21 PM PDT by SJackson (Everybody has a plan until they get hit. Mike Tyson)
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