All this stuff is hugely subjective so it's a "all a matter of taste" AFAIC. I had an 870 that I wanted to set up for home defense so I built it out similar to the ugly black beast in the center:
It works for me!
Posted on 09/25/2015 8:38:43 AM PDT by rktman
The shotgun has been a ubiquitous home-defense tool for decades. There’s just something about that train-tunnel bore and the unmistakable sound of a pump shotgun being racked that inspires a sense of security. However, more and more, it seems as though the defensive shotgun is losing favor. Between the vast array of quality handguns that allow for protection both inside and outside the home and the AR-platform rifles that are cheaper than ever, endlessly customizeable, and available in nearly every modern caliber under the sun, it becomes harder and harder to justify the harsh recoil and comparatively clunky operation of a shotgun. So, is there really still a place for the defensive shotgun in today’s age of high capacity wonder-pistols and space-age carbines? I think so, and here’s why.
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I like my Saiga 12 with MD Arms 20-round drum mag. Loaded with hexolit 32 slugs alternatively with Rhodesian jungle shot. Has a green laser for night-time target acquisition.
Vepr 12-gauge shotguns are available new at $800- that’s the only one I’d trade my Saiga for. Vepr shotguns and their AK platform rifles are made to AR tolerances- very smooth and accurate.
The difference in recoil is directly related to those ft-lbs.
Nice but be careful when boating.
i learned in my AR class that there is less penetration of walls with an AR than a 9mm. still need to mount a light on mine.
It surely is to a bad guy staring down the barrel of one. 8^)
+1 - I lost all my guns in a terrible surf canoeing accident many, many years ago. :)
Agreed. I am perfectly comfortable firing a .45 ACP using just one hand. I would not care to try it with a 12 gauge.
You could do it once! ;-)
If someone assumes the prone position, that could be taken as the most accurate position for shooting at an innocent person. If they are still a threat, you have a legal right to defend yourself in almost all jurisdictions. The trick is talking with a lawyer before talking with anyone else, and then properly and accurately describing the events to defend your actions.
I’m too old to be stupid once. I leave that to my kids.
The only thing bigger than the bore of the .22 were my eyes! (Like I said, that .22 looked like the bore of the 16” guns on the New Jersey)
All one ever sees is the gun. In a gun crime investigation the bad guy could be wearing a clown suit, riding a llama and all anybody saw was the BIG gun he was pointing at them. Could have been a .22 derringer but it looked like a howitzer.
Each to his own but I keep much lighter loads in my tactical 870 at least for the first couple shots.
I’ve had to shoot varmints in my yard out to 25 yards with 8-shot dove loads in the small 870 and the pattern holds surprisingly well.
In the house one (me) is unlikely to be more than thirty feet from an intruder, based on my floor plan. At thirty feet even 8-shot is going to be a very tight pattern. If you hit the target you are going to do serious damage.
I do keep heavier loads in the tube too, a couple 2 3/4” mag rounds, then a three-inch 4-shot, then a couple of double-ought buck, just in case the attacker is moving and shooting.
If I’m hiking in grizzly country I alternate a few double-ought buck rounds with the rest big 600-grain slugs.
LOLOLOL
Tru.
For all the toys in the box, the only one I use for food is my old .22LR bolt action. It has put many cotton tail rabbits on my dinner table.
870 came with a 30” RemChoke. Great bird gun. Added an 18” RemChoke with iron sights. Works great with buck and a cylinder bore choke or slugs with a rifled choke (on a paper plate at 100 yds). If I could only have one, that might be it.
Hope yer good!
All this stuff is hugely subjective so it's a "all a matter of taste" AFAIC. I had an 870 that I wanted to set up for home defense so I built it out similar to the ugly black beast in the center:
It works for me!
I'm down to four. One per vehicle, plus one real near the front door.
Hope yer good!
Still limping a little. But I'm laughing too, so it's all okay.
Or the new stuff, can't immediately recall the trade name, with two balls in the 3-inch loading. Or, in the 31/2-inch, three.
Seems like it'd chew up plywood targets pretty quick with a semi. Or with a Winchester Model '97 with the trigger held back.
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