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Jeb Bush vs. the 2nd Amendment
Daniel John Sobieski ^ | September 27, 2015 | Danirl John Sobieski

Posted on 09/22/2015 10:04:28 AM PDT by raptor22

Former Florida Governor Jeb Bush is not a political amateur and has faced questions from many prominent talking heads in the media. Yet in the 2016 he has made multiple gaffes indicating he still might not be ready for prime time, the latest being a question of whether gun ownership is a right guaranteed in the U.S. Constitution.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: 2016election; 2a; 2ndamendment; amthinker; banglist; bullets; election2016; firearms; florida; guncontrol; gunnews; gunrights; guns; jebbush; keepandbeararms; nra; rkba; rtkba; secondamendment

1 posted on 09/22/2015 10:04:28 AM PDT by raptor22
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JEB BUSH GUN CONTROL PING


2 posted on 09/22/2015 10:05:04 AM PDT by raptor22 (Follow me on Twitter @gerfingerpoken or facebook.com/danielsobieski)
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3 posted on 09/22/2015 10:20:07 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: raptor22
Stephen Colbert: Well, the right to have an individual firearm to protect yourself is a national document, in the Constitution, so shouldn’t that also be applied national…

Jeb Bush: No. Not necessarily…There’s a 10th amendment to our country, the Bill of Rights has a 10th amendment that says powers are given to the states to create policy, and the federal government is not the end all and be all. That’s an important value for this country, and it’s an important federalist system that works quite well.

What an embarrassment. What do some republican voters see in this guy? I don't understand why other than name recognition based on the family he belongs to to.

4 posted on 09/22/2015 10:21:29 AM PDT by GregoTX (Cruzader)
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To: raptor22

“he has made multiple gaffes indicating he still might not be ready for prime time”..........

No way should he even be in the race if he is pro gun control. Millions of gun owners would agree with me.


5 posted on 09/22/2015 10:21:47 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: raptor22

¡Yeb! is a Democrat in an R jersey

If he is nominated, the GOP will have committed suicide


6 posted on 09/22/2015 10:25:23 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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JEB BUSH GUN CONTROL PING


7 posted on 09/22/2015 10:25:28 AM PDT by raptor22 (Follow me on Twitter @gerfingerpoken or facebook.com/danielsobieski)
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The Second Amendment’s guarantee of the right to keep and bear arms is in fact both an individual and national right, which was Colbert’s question, a fact ratified by the U.S. Supreme Court. There is no asterisk at the end of the Second Amendment. It is a right already reserved to the people in the Bill of Rights. As for the 10th Amendment, which restricts the power of the federal government, some argue correctly that the 2nd Amendment is what makes the other nine possible.

PERIOD

8 posted on 09/22/2015 10:25:57 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Lurkinanloomin
* ¡Yeb! is a Democrat in an R jersey

If he is nominated, the GOP will have committed suicide *

If he is nominated I believe that we all have an obligation to vote third party.

Don't worry about splitting the vote. Hilary is lucky if she'll get 20%...

9 posted on 09/22/2015 10:36:40 AM PDT by PATRIOT1876 (The only crimes that are 100% preventable are those committed by illegal aliens)
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Jeb Bush: No. Not necessarily…There’s a 10th amendment to our country, the Bill of Rights has a 10th amendment that says powers are given to the states to create policy, and the federal government is not the end all and be all. That’s an important value for this country, and it’s an important federalist system that works quite well.

Yeb/Mushmouth/George III mangles words and thoughts about as well as his older brother.

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

I don’t need this blithering idiot explaining for me what G-d and the framers meant. Go get your shinebox, Yeb.


10 posted on 09/22/2015 10:49:51 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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"...the Bill of Rights has a 10th amendment that says powers are given to the states to create policy,..."

It is absolutely frightening that people who aspire to the highest office in the land have such an abysmal understanding of the country's foundational structure.

11 posted on 09/22/2015 10:54:37 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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Almost no one on the right or left can accept the 2nd Amendment in its plain wording. They (the left) deny it permits private access to arms at all or they (the right) quibble about what is included under the term “arms” or they say there can only be common sense limits or that certainly that right doesn’t extend to bad people of various definitions. No. it is absolute or is possibly subject only to the involuntary servitude provision in the Constitution. A tank may not be an “arm” but the cannon mounted in its turret most surely is.


12 posted on 09/22/2015 11:00:09 AM PDT by arthurus (It's true.)
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A tank may not be an “arm” but the cannon mounted in its turret most surely is.

You are correct. Note that in Article I, Section 8 (the enumerated powers of Congress) is the power to grant "Letters of Marque and Reprisal." Essentially, Congress can grant anyone the power to be a privateer (i.e. a pirate or a raider) against enemy shipping. This was actually done during the War of 1812. Raiding enemy ships required that you have cannon - MANY cannon - that you owned personally. The Founders were not stupid men, they understood this VERY well. Thus, logic and the language of the Constitution indicated that cannon are protected arms.

I would also make the argument that ALL arms capable of being carried/used by a single person or even a 2- or 3-man team are protected under the 2nd. Our side employed rifles in the Revolutionary War, and at the time rifles were fairly high-tech, certainly higher tech than the Brown Bess muskets of the British. So we have the right to keep and bear ANY firearm now, since that right obviously existed back then.

13 posted on 09/22/2015 11:14:08 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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Bush is a complete incompetent. Bar needs to send the short bus to pick him up and take him home. For good.


14 posted on 09/22/2015 11:43:49 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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JEB BUSH GUN CONTROL PING


15 posted on 09/22/2015 12:49:32 PM PDT by raptor22 (Follow me on Twitter @gerfingerpoken or facebook.com/danielsobieski)
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I really don’t see any point in supporting Comrade Jeb!

I will be eagerly awaiting the announcement that he’s dropping out of the race.


16 posted on 09/22/2015 1:12:09 PM PDT by Torcert (Che Guevara is DEAD - Get Over it!)
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Pending clarification, and I’m sure he’ll be asked this question again, I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he was addressing things like mental health issues. I do think things like that should be handled by the states rather than the federal government. Including concealed carry reciprocity. I’d prefer the least federal interference with my rights. In a more perfect nation, I’d expect the feds to be protecting my rights.


17 posted on 09/22/2015 1:16:59 PM PDT by SJackson (Everybody has a plan until they get hit. Mike Tyson)
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To: Ancesthntr

Our side carried cannons too, and you can still own one. Blackpowder at least. I think your assessment that individual and crew fired weapons are covered is correct. I can’t look for it now, but I believe the cannon issue was resolved in court, Texas I think, not long after they became a state. Privateers also needed cannon.


18 posted on 09/22/2015 1:19:57 PM PDT by SJackson (Everybody has a plan until they get hit. Mike Tyson)
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To: raptor22

JEB manages to be on the wrong side of just about every issue. He could give Hillary a good run in the rat party.


19 posted on 09/24/2015 2:33:16 AM PDT by jospehm20
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