[bray]

Not outraged at all, just these questions should be asked to the attacker and disavow the premise that it was even a gaff. We always act like we are guilty of whatever whole cloth they invent.

[rodguy911]

Good point.

It's symptomatic of how we lost the who really shuts down the govt. argument and keep losing it over and over and over.

For instance if we take money for planned parent hood out of the Federal budget which would be fine with 80% of the voting population and then ozero shuts down the govt. because he got mad and didn't get his way,in essence "we made him do it" which is bullshot, who really shut down the friggin' govt.? NOT US HE DID.

Yet the consensus on our side is we can't do it because we will get the blameTtalk about a bunch of ballless congress critters on our side!!