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Ferguson panel recommends merging police, other changes
Associated Press ^ | Sep 14, 2015 6:22 PM EDT | Jim Salter and Jim Suhr

Posted on 09/14/2015 4:24:11 PM PDT by Olog-hai

The co-chairman of a reform panel formed after the Ferguson police shooting of Michael Brown said Monday that the group’s report calling for police departments and municipal courts to be merged and other changes “reveals uncomfortable truths about this region we call home.”

Rich McClure and other Ferguson Commission members acknowledge in their 198-page report that the panel has no power to enact any of the proposals. Missouri Gov. Jay Nixon said he backs the recommendations and during a news conference declared: “I commit to you today that these tireless efforts will not be in vain.”

“Together we will lead St. Louis, our state and our country toward a brighter future of justice and opportunity for all,” said the Democratic governor, who was joined by commission members at a local community college. “Where others have stepped back, Missourians have stepped up, setting an example for the rest of the nation. And we will continue to do more.”

The 16-member commission’s report comes 10 months after Nixon appointed the panel in November. The report, with 189 “calls to action,” recommends consolidating St. Louis-area police departments and municipal courts and scaling back police use of force. …

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: centralization; ferguson; jaynixon; liberalagenda; soros; sorosprotesters
Right: create problem and impose centralization. Where have we heard this tune before?
1 posted on 09/14/2015 4:24:11 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Sponsored by Swisher Sweets?

2 posted on 09/14/2015 4:28:28 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (TED CRUZ. You can help:
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To: Olog-hai

Central control will be at the federal level and probably headed up by a communist democrat with communist POTUS obamanation at the head of who did what to whom as America’s checks and balnces government comes to an evil end for the conservatives and Christians who loved our Constitution and Bill of Rights. We are under the judgement of God and He uses powers that be to punish those who hate Him and His Christ, always reflected in if they love or hate Israel. Those who hate Israel are cursed of God.

3 posted on 09/14/2015 4:30:15 PM PDT by kindred (Conservatives are robbed by both the communist dems and rino politicians of DC.)
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To: Olog-hai

Jay Nixon is a worthless POS. I would not piss on that sonofabitch if he were on fire. His political career is over in Missouri. Serve your term out Jay. You’re done.

4 posted on 09/14/2015 4:35:27 PM PDT by Artemis Webb (Teddy Roosevelt 2016.)
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Have I mentioned lately that I hate Jay Nixon?

5 posted on 09/14/2015 4:36:02 PM PDT by Artemis Webb (Teddy Roosevelt 2016.)
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To: Olog-hai; kindred

Wait until they organize the nation into regional Gaus.

6 posted on 09/14/2015 4:38:18 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: Olog-hai

just pull the police out and let al sharpton and company protect ferguson.

7 posted on 09/14/2015 4:50:04 PM PDT by Cubs Fan ( liberalism=totalitarianism-
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To: Olog-hai
Fred On Everything - Scurrilous Commentary by Fred Reed

Black Power - A Done Deal

October 30, 2014

"As I write America waits, again, to see whether blacks will riot, this time in Ferguson. Will they loot, burn, kill, and rape? The usual? The police in Ferguson prepare to protect stores from looters, as rioters seem to regard their insurrections as shopping opportunities. Will it come, we wonder tensely? Will the destruction get out of hand, spread to other cities?"

"It is curious that blacks, the least educated thirteen percent of the population, the least productive, most criminal, and most dependent on governmental charity, should dominate national politics. Yet they do. Virtually everything revolves around what blacks want, demand, do, or can’t do. Their power seems without limit."

"Courses of instruction in the schools, academic rigor, codes of dress, rules regarding unceasing obscenity, all must be set to suit them, as must be examinations for promotion in fire departments, the military, and police forces. Blacks must be admitted to universities for which they are not remotely qualified, where departments of Black Studies must be established to please them. Corporate work forces, federal departments, and elite high-schools must be judged not on whether they perform their functions but on whether they have the right number of blacks."

"Do laws requiring identification to vote threaten to end multiple voting? The laws must go. Do blacks not like Confederate flags? Adieu, flags. Does Huckleberry Finn go down the Mississippi with the Nigger Jim, or Conrad write The Nigger of the Narcissus? These must be banned or expurgated to please blacks who haven’t read them or, usually, heard of them. Do we want to prevent people coming from regions infested with Ebola from entering the United States? We cannot. It would offend blacks."

"We must never, ever say or do anything that might upset them, as virtually everything does. It is positively astonishing. One expects the rich and smart to have disproportionate power. But America is dominated from the slums."

"One might think that a single set of laws should apply to all citizens, and that things should be done without regard to race, creed, color, sex, or national origin, and that all should have the same rights and responsibilities. It is not so."

"The dominance of the media by blacks is impressive. If a white shoots a black to defend himself, it becomes national news for weeks, or months, and riots follow, but when blacks engage in their unending racial attacks on whites, the media demurely look the other way. The attackers are never black. They are “teens.” Reporters who say otherwise are likely to be fired. In effect, the thirteen percent censor the national press."

8 posted on 09/14/2015 5:00:13 PM PDT by Iron Munro (CITY: A liberal run holding pen for useless headcount.)
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To: Olog-hai

This was featured on the national news. Expand Medicaid, end hunger, etc. etc. But Nixon is a lame duck Democrat, and both houses of Missouri’s General Assembly are controlled by veto-proof Republican majorities so Nixon’s panel and its recommendations are likely going nowhere.

That said, not all of the complaints about northern St. Louis county are invalid. Many “cities” and their police departments exist primarily for revenue collection. Lots of people who are poor to begin with are getting nickeled and dimed to death over traffic citations etc. by their own local government. The number of cities could certainly be reduced without any real loss of liberty.

9 posted on 09/14/2015 5:00:55 PM PDT by hanamizu
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To: Olog-hai

All based on a lie.

Twenty-Five Top Quotes from the DOJ’s Report on the Michael Brown Shooting

[01] The evidence, when viewed as a whole, does not support the conclusion that Wilson’s uses of deadly force were “objectively unreasonable” under the Supreme Court’s definition. (Page 5)

[02] when the store clerk tried to stop Brown, Brown used his physical size to stand over him and forcefully shove him away. (Page 6)

[03] Wilson was aware of the theft and had a description of the suspects as he encountered Brown and Witness 101. (Page 6)

[04] Autopsy results and bullet trajectory, skin from Brown’s palm on the outside of the SUV door as well as Brown’s DNA on the inside of the driver’s door corroborate Wilson’s account that during the struggle, Brown used his right hand to grab and attempt to control Wilson’s gun. (Page 6)

[05] there is no credible evidence to disprove Wilson’s account of what occurred inside the SUV. (Page 7)

[06] autopsy results confirm that Wilson did not shoot Brown in the back as he was running away because there were no entrance wounds to Brown’s back. (Page 7)

[07] witnesses who originally stated Brown had his hands up in surrender recanted their original accounts (Page 8)

[08] several witnesses stated that Brown appeared to pose a physical threat to Wilson as he moved toward Wilson. (Page 8)

[09] The physical evidence also establishes that Brown moved forward toward Wilson after he turned around to face him. The physical evidence is corroborated by multiple eyewitnesses. (Page 10)

[10] evidence does not establish that it was unreasonable for Wilson to perceive Brown as a threat while Brown was punching and grabbing him in the SUV and attempting to take his gun. (Page 11)

[11] Wilson’s account is corroborated by physical evidence and that his perception of a threat posed by Brown is corroborated by other eyewitnesses (Page 12)

[12] Wilson’s account was consistent with those results, and consistent with the accounts of other independent eyewitnesses, whose accounts were also consistent with the physical evidence. Wilson’s statements were consistent with each other in all material ways, and would not be subject to effective impeachment for inconsistencies or deviation from the physical evidence.8 Therefore, in analyzing all of the evidence, federal prosecutors found Wilson’s account to be credible. (Page 16)

[13] Witness accounts suggesting that Brown was standing still with his hands raised in an unambiguous signal of surrender when Wilson shot Brown are inconsistent with the physical evidence, are otherwise not credible because of internal inconsistencies, or are not credible because of inconsistencies with other credible evidence. (Page 78)

[14] Multiple credible witnesses corroborate virtually every material aspect of Wilson’s account and are consistent with the physical evidence. (Page 78)

[15] several of these witnesses stated that they would have felt threatened by Brown and would have responded in the same way Wilson did. (Page 82)

[16] there are no witnesses who could testify credibly that Wilson shot Brown while Brown was clearly attempting to surrender. (Page 83)

[17] There is no witness who has stated that Brown had his hands up in surrender whose statement is otherwise consistent with the physical evidence. (Page 83)

[18] The media has widely reported that there is witness testimony that Brown said “don’t shoot” as he held his hands above his head. In fact, our investigation did not reveal any eyewitness who stated that Brown said “don’t shoot.” (Page 83)

[19] Wilson did not know that Brown was not armed at the time he shot him, and had reason to suspect that he might be when Brown reached into the waistband of his pants as he advanced toward Wilson. (Page 84)

[20] Wilson did not have time to determine whether Brown had a gun and was not required to risk being shot himself in order to make a more definitive assessment.

[21] In addition, even assuming that Wilson definitively knew that Brown was not armed, Wilson was aware that Brown had already assaulted him once and attempted to gain control of his gun. (Page 85)

[22] Wilson has a strong argument that he was justified in firing his weapon at Brown as he continued to advance toward him and refuse commands to stop, and the law does not require Wilson to wait until Brown was close enough to physically assault Wilson. (Page 85)

[23] we must avoid substituting our personal notions of proper police procedure for the instantaneous decision of the officer at the scene. We must never allow the theoretical, sanitized world of our imagination to replace the dangerous and complex world that policemen face every day.” (Page 85)

[24] “It may appear, in the calm aftermath, that an officer could have taken a different course, but we do not hold the police to such a demanding standard.” (citing Gardner v. Buerger, 82 F.3d 248, 251 (8th Cir. 1996) (same))). Rather, where, as here, an officer points his gun at a suspect to halt his advance, that suspect should be on notice that “escalation of the situation would result in the use of the firearm.” Estate of Morgan at 498. An officer is permitted to continue firing until the threat is neutralized. See Plumhoff v. Rickard, 134 S.Ct. 2012, 2022 (2014) (“Officers need not stop shooting until the threat has ended”). For all of the reasons stated, Wilson’s conduct in shooting Brown as he advanced on Wilson, and until he fell to the ground, was not objectively unreasonable and thus not a violation of 18 U.S.C. § 242. (Page 85)

[25] Given that Wilson’s account is corroborated by physical evidence and that his perception of a threat posed by Brown is corroborated by other eyewitnesses, to include aspects of the testimony of Witness 101, there is no credible evidence that Wilson willfully shot Brown as he was attempting to surrender or was otherwise not posing a threat. (Page 86)

For the reasons set forth above, this matter lacks prosecutive merit and should be closed.

10 posted on 09/14/2015 5:22:51 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Is the Pope Catholic?)
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To: Olog-hai

Actually, this is a good idea. Disband a bunch of the towns and remove their revenue agents. The local courts are really bad with part-time Judges who double as Prosecutors in the next town over. Most of the towns are too small to survive and should not have been created in the first place.

11 posted on 09/14/2015 5:42:25 PM PDT by ClayinVA ("Those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it")
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To: Olog-hai

Now we know why the left in unison with the media hyped Ferguson so much. This was the end goal all along.

12 posted on 09/14/2015 5:48:37 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country)
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To: ClayinVA

That’s what the liberals want—more centralization. And it always results in the centralized area getting more top-heavy.

The notion of what towns ought to have been created and what not to have is certainly what central planners always focus on. Ferguson was originally a railroad town dating from 1850, and judging its existence on the ill results of the expansion of St. Louis (helped along more by I-70 and I-270 more than the Wabash Railroad) does not mean it ought to be absorbed by St. Louis as Governor Nixon is insisting on.

13 posted on 09/14/2015 6:06:37 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Normally, yes that is true and may even be in this case. The problem is there are 90 townships in St Louis County with almost that many different Police Depts and Court Systems. They could use some consolidation. During the Riots, they talked about townships annexing themselves 1 or 2 miles of the major roads to raise funds. Best example of this is the massive Public Safety/Town Hall in Ferguson when the town is only 6 square miles.

14 posted on 09/14/2015 6:51:30 PM PDT by ClayinVA ("Those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it")
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To: ClayinVA

The fact that Nixon is attacking the structure solely with consolidation and centralization in mind kinda says it all for me. Just another step towards Detroitification.

15 posted on 09/14/2015 7:51:04 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

How about bulldozing the town and plowing salt into the earth where it used to stand?

16 posted on 09/15/2015 4:13:06 AM PDT by madprof98
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