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Trump flipflops on crucial issue of importing Muslim refugees
American Thinker ^ | 09/10/2015 | Ed Straker

Posted on 09/10/2015 9:21:35 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Here is, word for word, in context, what Donald Trump said Tuesday about admitting Muslim refugees from the Middle East:

Bill O'Reilly: You know thousands will come to the United States. Now do you object to migrants who are getting out of the Middle East and North Africa coming to the USA?

Trump: I hate the concept of it but on a humanitarian basis with what's happening you have to.

Here is, word for word in context, what Donald Trump said on Wednesday about admitting Muslim refugees from the Middle East:

Hannity: Should we allow any of them [Muslim Middle Eastern refugees] into this country?

Trump: Look, from a humanitarian standpoint I'd love to help but we have our own problems, we have so many problems we have to solve.

On Tuesday Trump said we had to admit them for humanitarian reasons, on Wednesday Trump said we didn't have to admit them for humanitarian reasons.

As I've said before, on the campaign trail it is easy to misspeak. But this is a very fundamental issue and it doesn't look like a slip of the tongue. He clearly said "you have to" in answer to a question about admitting thousands of them. If Trump were to admit large numbers of Muslims to America, we would be importing the intolerant version of Islam that is practiced in Iraq, Syria, and Afghanistan, complete with Sharia law, clitorectomies, and honor killings. And then, of course, there would be the terrorism.

I've voiced my concern about Donald Trump before because he has no history of conservatism; in fact, his history is the direct opposite.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: brokenrecord; flipflop; ilovetowhine; migrants; muslim; refugees; strumpets; syrianrefugees; trump; waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
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1 posted on 09/10/2015 9:21:35 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3335240/posts


2 posted on 09/10/2015 9:22:37 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: SeekAndFind

Trump is quick to get on the right side of an issue, while other candidates remain tone deaf


3 posted on 09/10/2015 9:22:41 AM PDT by 4rcane
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To: SeekAndFind

And I don’t know if that’s what he meant. A week before he criticized Obama for not admitting CHRISTIAN refugees. Is Trump thinking of them, while Hannity is thinking of the Muslims? I don’t know.


4 posted on 09/10/2015 9:22:58 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: SeekAndFind

I am glad he came around. I hope he actually means it.

Those people are from cultures alien and hostile our nation and our culture. They bring with them nothing the Nation or its lawful Citizens and Residents need. Instead, the represent a threat to the safety of public and burden to the taxpayer.


5 posted on 09/10/2015 9:23:26 AM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: 4rcane
Given his position on illegal immigration I'm sure his second iteration was closer to what he really believes.

His initial statement is what happens when a candidate allows himself to be led by the interviewer.

So many were drawn to Trump in the first place because he refused to be bullied by the media. He needs to get back to that policy and stick to it.

6 posted on 09/10/2015 9:25:17 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: SeekAndFind

Trump needs to carry around the position paper on immigration Sen. Sessions gave him and read from it. Trump doesn’t do all that well in staking out consistent positions on the fly.


7 posted on 09/10/2015 9:25:32 AM PDT by SharpRightTurn (Been shown repeatedly that Mittens would not have won with 70% of the “Hispanic vote”. What killed)
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To: SeekAndFind

In before the....

“He didn’t flip-flop. Shut up. You’re stupid.

What? Are you some Bush bot? blah, blah blah....”


8 posted on 09/10/2015 9:25:54 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (With Great Freedom comes Great Responsibility)
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To: Responsibility2nd

But the anti-Trump crowd will call him a flip flopper. All the candidates change their minds on issues at one time of another. It’s called being flexible and looking at additional information on a given subject. None of believe the same things we used to believe when we were younger - at least I hope not.


9 posted on 09/10/2015 9:27:33 AM PDT by Catsrus (The Great Wall of Trump - coming to a southern border near you.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Maybe he perused FR and decided a firm stance was the way to go instead of “perhaps”


10 posted on 09/10/2015 9:29:02 AM PDT by Bobalu (I can't imagine!)
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To: 4rcane

I wish him well but Trump is going to find this political thing a lot harder than buying real estate and constructing buildings.


11 posted on 09/10/2015 9:29:48 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: LS

Yes, I think the difference that he meant was Christian vs. Muslim, as he has talked about the west not trying to save the Christians being persecuted.


12 posted on 09/10/2015 9:30:40 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Little Ray
Hi, I read this yesterday and thought it was so well written on this subject puts it in a short and sweet nutshell. Thank you Mr. Scripio. Progress & Islam
By Alex Scripio
In the era of the steam engine it took 150 years for man’s collective knowledge to double. Today it takes 2 years. By 2020 it will take 72 hours. (“Big History.”)
…Unless we CHOOSE to retard our development by giving cultural recognition & invader status to Islam, a culture of illiteracy in which the average number of books translated annually into its dominant language is… one.
Islam is a retrograde civilization. Neither it nor co-equal recognition of it belong in the modern world.
Fact.[…]
13 posted on 09/10/2015 9:30:57 AM PDT by Uversabound (Our Military past and present: Our Highest example of Brotherhood of Man & Doing God's Will)
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To: Catsrus

He said And I Saw it, “you got to do something” he never said “take them in”

Trump is a quick learner. He sees Europe doesn’t know if these men are Al Queda, Isis, Boka Harim etc.

My opinion is if the rich Arab states ain’t doing anything to help, taking in refuges, neither is it our business either.


14 posted on 09/10/2015 9:32:02 AM PDT by Zenjitsuman (A)
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To: SeekAndFind

I don’t see a flip flop. This is what i read he said in his full statement originally.


15 posted on 09/10/2015 9:33:00 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Catsrus

None of believe the same things we used to believe when we were younger - at least I hope not.

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Younger, sure. But these flips come in a matter of days - even hours.

Look at his walking back his remarks on Carly Fiorina as we speak for example.

His mouth is what will ultimately be his downfall.


16 posted on 09/10/2015 9:36:07 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (With Great Freedom comes Great Responsibility)
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To: Raycpa

RE: I don’t see a flip flop. This is what i read he said in his full statement originally.

There were two statements he made, one to Bill O’Reilly and another one (Later) to Hannity. Which one are you referring to?


17 posted on 09/10/2015 9:36:32 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (What is the difference between Obama and government bonds? Government bonds will mature someday)
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To: 4rcane
Trump is quick to get on the right side of an issue, while other candidates remain tone deaf

Some of us were correct to point out Trump's initial mistake and the bots amongst us called us liars for doing so.

We were correct, and now Trump has gone from being wrong to being right on the issue.

18 posted on 09/10/2015 9:36:36 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: LS

That’s what I was thinking. What was the exact question? Did it specify Muslims, or just ask about refugees in general?


19 posted on 09/10/2015 9:38:13 AM PDT by Hugin ("First thing--get yourself a fire"arm!" Sheriff Ed Galt, Last Man Standing.)
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To: Raycpa
Full original: “So horrible on a humanitarian basis when you see that. It’s like incredible what’s going on. But, you know, we have so many problems. And the answer is possibly yes, Cokie, possibly yes.

But we have so many problems of our own. We have border problems that are big league that I exposed. I think if I didn’t expose them, I don’t think you’d be talking about them right now. I mean, it’s become a very big subject of debate. And it’s not so much debate.

People now realize I was right when I made that initial statement, and by the way, took a lot of heat for about a two week period, until people realized what was going on. But we have our own problems. We have so many problems to solve. Our country is broken. Our — we owe now — you know I’ve been saying 18 trillion, we now owe $19 trillion. It’s going to go up very rapidly from this point forward. You know that 18 stayed there for a long time. But now if you look at the numbers and the balance sheets, it’s going to go up very rapidly. We’re at $19 trillion. There’s only so much we can do. We have to fix our own country.

Now, Europe is handling it. Germany has been very generous so far, which is very surprising to me, to be honest with you. But there’s a huge problem, and we should help as much as possible, but we do have to fix our own country.”

20 posted on 09/10/2015 9:38:17 AM PDT by Raycpa
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