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Supreme Court: Second Amendment Applies to States. (and an anti-Heller vanity by me)
Prospect ^ | unknown | impimp

Posted on 09/06/2015 7:50:57 AM PDT by impimp

The Supreme Court today held that the Second Amendment -- as recently redefined in D.C. v. Heller , in which the Court overturned D.C.'s handgun ban -- applies to the states, not just the federal government.....

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: banglist; gay; marriage; weapons
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To: impimp

States do not have rights. Only citizens have rights. States have any powers not specifically granted to the Federal Government by the U.S. Constitution.


41 posted on 09/06/2015 8:25:45 AM PDT by SatinDoll (A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN IS BORN IN THE USA OF TWO USA CITIZENS)
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To: impimp

The Constitution was signed by the states agreeing to its contents.


42 posted on 09/06/2015 8:29:32 AM PDT by SkyDancer ("Nobody Said I Was Perfect But Yet Here I Am")
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To: impimp
What is so magical about a "state"? It's just a partly historical, partly arbitrary grouping of people that allows those people to handle their affairs in a practical manner.

I thought conservatives really wanted to make sure that cities and towns were where most of the decisions were made.

Here in California our respect for the state has relegated cities and counties to the back row. Most decisions are made by the State of California and the cities just have to follow along.

Besides there are certain things that only make sense at the national level. For example, the definition of a citizen or of a legal person. These are not things that should be decided on a state-by-state basis. Similarly for marriage. How are people supposed to be able to move about the country being considered married in one state and unmarried in another?

You're smoking some good stuff if you think that if the gay marriage issue was pushed back to the states that certain states would hold out for long. With major corporations and an increasing percentage of the US population supporting gay marriage, even if this issue were pushed back to the states, I'm almost certain it would only be a matter of years before every state succumbed to the public pressure.

Most of the states sold their birthrights over a century ago: allowing the federal government to take control of significant portions of their territory, asking for money from the federal government, allowing the federal government to dictate their internal policies with little or no resistance.

Why is there a National Guard rather than 50 truly independent and well-funded State Militias? Because states are too damn cheap to support well-funded militias that's why. Why don't states refuse federal highway money and build their own roads and bridges? Because they're too damn cheap that's why. Why don't states build their own dams and maintain their own levees? Because they're too damn cheap.

Whoever pays the piper chooses the tune. The states have been allowing the feds to pay the piper for decades so we dance to the socialism tango.

43 posted on 09/06/2015 8:31:05 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: ilgipper

Those rights weren’t “bestowed” on We The People. That’s like people saying “the second amendments grants the right to bear arms.” Our rights come from our Creator; the Bill of Rights acknowledges that and provides protections against the federal government from violating those rights.


44 posted on 09/06/2015 8:33:15 AM PDT by wastedyears (Iron Maiden's new album is majestic.)
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To: impimp

The Founding Fathers clearly understood that gun ownership was a *very* effective means to prevent abusive government.They also understood that freedom of the press,speech and religion were central to a free people.OTOH,I suspect their attitude to a state (or municipality) restricting how a vendor can sell a beverage (e.g.,the size of the cup in which Pepsi is sold) would be that it can be regulated locally,not being *central* to a free people.


45 posted on 09/06/2015 8:34:05 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Obamanomics:Trickle Up Poverty)
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To: impimp
I believe that States can do what they want. That makes me a “tenther” I suppose.

Then you need to pay attention to what the 10th actually reads:

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

Notice the peohibition thingy?

46 posted on 09/06/2015 8:35:12 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (I stand with Kim Davis! I will not comply!)
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To: Lazamataz
That's southern-speak for 'what a moron'. LOL!

LOL!!

Gotta tell ya Laz, this thread takes idiocy to a new level.

I would never expect to see such ignorance on parade here.

47 posted on 09/06/2015 8:37:25 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (I stand with Kim Davis! I will not comply!)
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To: Las Vegas Ron; CodeToad; impimp
Check message 38. CodeToad and I pretty much deflated impimp's argument by pointing out the clause in the Tenth Amendment that he overlooked.
48 posted on 09/06/2015 8:40:23 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Ok. We won't call them 'Anchor Babies'. From now on, we shall call them 'Fetal Grappling Hooks'.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
...and you observed the same thing.

We are schmart.

49 posted on 09/06/2015 8:41:18 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Ok. We won't call them 'Anchor Babies'. From now on, we shall call them 'Fetal Grappling Hooks'.)
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To: impimp

You are correct.


50 posted on 09/06/2015 8:42:15 AM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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To: Las Vegas Ron

I recognize that there are many things explicitly relating to states in the constitution. The problem is the federal government reaching into things under state control according to the constitution.


51 posted on 09/06/2015 8:42:48 AM PDT by impimp
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To: ForYourChildren

No, he isn’t. See message 38.


52 posted on 09/06/2015 8:43:49 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Ok. We won't call them 'Anchor Babies'. From now on, we shall call them 'Fetal Grappling Hooks'.)
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To: Lazamataz; impimp

Impy must me suffering a hangover or is hitting it early this AM


53 posted on 09/06/2015 8:44:33 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (I stand with Kim Davis! I will not comply!)
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To: wastedyears

Yes rights are granted by the creator. Does that mean that we should be global police making sure God-given rights apply to all jurisdictions? Why stop at the states? Lets make sure every nation on the planet follows American views of God-given rights./sarc


54 posted on 09/06/2015 8:45:14 AM PDT by impimp
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To: impimp
I recognize that there are many things explicitly relating to states in the constitution. The problem is the federal government reaching into things under state control according to the constitution.

This particular ruling does not violate states rights. It prevents states from illegally infringing on an area where the 10th amendment prohibits infringement.

55 posted on 09/06/2015 8:45:16 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Ok. We won't call them 'Anchor Babies'. From now on, we shall call them 'Fetal Grappling Hooks'.)
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To: ForYourChildren

Keep reading, get educated. He is WRONG


56 posted on 09/06/2015 8:45:28 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (I stand with Kim Davis! I will not comply!)
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To: EagleUSA

Regarding your post 35, wait for the other shoe to drop. They always compromise on something.


57 posted on 09/06/2015 8:46:03 AM PDT by wastedyears (Iron Maiden's new album is majestic.)
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To: impimp
Yes rights are granted by the creator. Does that mean that we should be global police making sure God-given rights apply to all jurisdictions? Why stop at the states? Lets make sure every nation on the planet follows American views of God-given rights./sarc

Dude. Tell me you're drinking. PLEASE.

The Constitution and Bill of Rights applies to AMERICA.

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Other nations must protect God-given rights in the manner of their choosing.

58 posted on 09/06/2015 8:47:13 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Ok. We won't call them 'Anchor Babies'. From now on, we shall call them 'Fetal Grappling Hooks'.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

I’m leaning towards current imbibing. :)


59 posted on 09/06/2015 8:47:47 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Ok. We won't call them 'Anchor Babies'. From now on, we shall call them 'Fetal Grappling Hooks'.)
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To: SkyDancer
The Constitution was signed by the states agreeing to its contents.

Don't counter his nonsense with legal contract history, it might hurt his nonsense argument.

60 posted on 09/06/2015 8:48:25 AM PDT by wastedyears (Iron Maiden's new album is majestic.)
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