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Rick Perry: Border Wall Nothing More Than Rhetoric
Legal Insurrection ^ | 09/05/2015 | Kemberlee Kaye

Posted on 09/06/2015 7:11:39 AM PDT by nhwingut

Joining Lou Dobbs earlier this week, Former Texas Governor Rick Perry was asked to explain his stance on illegal immigration and border security.

“I think we need to flesh everyone out from the stand point of of just the rhetoric. When somebody says, ‘let’s build a wall,’ then I think it’s appropriate to say, it’s good to have this conversation, it’s good that we are having this conversation that now for thirty years, this border has not been secured. We’ve known it’s been a problem,” said Perry.

Dobbs interjected that he doesn’t believe a single candidate talking about immigration issues because “we’ve heard it all before.”

“Good for you!” responded Perry.

“The fact is, until the media really digs in on this issue and says explains to me exactly what you’re talking about when it comes to securing the border, because everything goes back to that. Whether it’s this issue about these people on welfare, whether it’s the cost to states when it comes to the schools… You know all of the cost of this border that’s not secure has been mounting up and costing billions and billions of dollars. So the issue all goes back to securing the border. If you secure the border, this whole conversation about the 14th amendment, those go away.”

We know how to secure the border, Lou. The issue is, we have not had the will in the White House to do that and we haven’t had the will in Congress. Washington is completely corrupt when it comes to this issue.”

Dobbs asked Perry what he would do to secure the border.

“Let’s talk about reality. It’s 1,933 miles from Tijuana right there by San Diego all the way to El Paso, and El Paso to Brownsville. So you must understand really understand the size and the scope of this to really get your hands around it.

Then you must believe that man power and boots on the ground are the real key issue here. Whether you build a that’s 20 feet high and 1,933 miles long, and you ask the question how long’s that going to take to build and what’s that going to cost, but there’s a better way, I will suggest to you and it’s having the personnel in the right places, the boots on the ground in the right places. It is the strategic fencing and the type of wall, if that’s what you want to call it, in the metropolitans and the aviation assets, Lou. If you don’t have the aviation assets looking down 24/7, making the analysis of what’s going on along that border, both side, identifying where the problems are and quick response teams to interdict, that’s when you secure the border.” [emphasis added]

Perry and Dobbs also discussed a key component missing from the border security discussion — our relationship with Mexico. Holding Mexico responsible, assessing the foreign aid they receive, and considering our trade partnerships are all crucial parts of any strategy to secure the border.

Perry explained working with Mexico to secure their Southern border should be part of a comprehensive strategy as well.

“I will suggest to you that we can also be of assistance on the Southern border with Mexico because that’s where a lot of these challenges come from. Last summer, it was Central American kids that were coming up here, showing up here. It wasn’t Mexican citizens.”

Video interview at source.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Mexico; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida; US: New York; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2016election; election2016; florida; immigration; jebbush; kemberleekaye; loudobbs; marcorubio; mexico; newyork; perry; rickperry; tedcruz; texas; trump
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To: nhwingut

It is not the wall that matters but the penalty for crossing the wall that is what matters. Currently there is a reward for crossing the wall can any one guess why people cross the wall? I thought you could.


61 posted on 09/06/2015 9:46:39 AM PDT by itsahoot (55 years a republican-Now Independent. Will write in Sarah Palin, no matter who runs. RIH-GOP)
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To: Ditter
We are either a nation of laws or we are not. For every family like you described, there are literally millions of other stories that leave a trail of crime, death, and destruction,

Criminal Alien Statistics: Information on Incarcerations, Arrests, and Costs GAO-11-187: Published: Mar 24, 2011. Publicly Released: Apr 21, 2011.

The number of criminal aliens in federal prisons in fiscal year 2010 was about 55,000, and the number of SCAAP criminal alien incarcerations in state prison systems and local jails was about 296,000 in fiscal year 2009 (the most recent data available), and the majority were from Mexico.

Based on our random sample, GAO estimates that the criminal aliens had an average of 7 arrests, 65 percent were arrested at least once for an immigration offense, and about 50 percent were arrested at least once for a drug offense. Immigration, drugs, and traffic violations accounted for about 50 percent of arrest offenses. About 90 percent of the criminal aliens sentenced in federal court in fiscal year 2009 (the most recently available data) were convicted of immigration and drug-related offenses. About 40 percent of individuals convicted as a result of DOJ terrorism-related investigations were aliens.

25,000 were charged with homicide.

This has been going on my whole life and I am 75 but now it is Rick Perrys fault?

When you reward something, you get more of it. Texas has an illegal alien population of 1.8 million. The Fiscal Burden of Illegal Immigration on Texans (2014)

After a brief hiatus that coincided with the worst of the economic recession, Texas’s illegal alien population is on the rise again. There are about 1,810,000 illegal aliens residing in Texas — 70,000 more than resided in the state in 2010 when we estimated the fiscal burden at nearly $8.9 billion annually.

In 2013, illegal immigration cost Texas taxpayers about $12.1 billion annually. That amounts to more than $1,197 for every Texas household headed by a native-born or naturalized U.S. citizen. The taxes paid by illegal aliens — estimated at $1.27 billion per year — do not come close to paying for those outlays, but we include an estimate of revenue from sales taxes, property taxes, alcohol taxes, and cigarette taxes.

62 posted on 09/06/2015 9:51:04 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar
In 1984 an illegal alien from Mexico ran a red light broadsided my sons car and killed him he got off scot free. I am not in favor of people entering our country illegally but it is not all Rick Perrys fault like so many on here seem to think.

What about Arizona,New Mexico and California? What have those governors done?

The blame is on the US for not enforcing our borders both north and south.

63 posted on 09/06/2015 10:13:41 AM PDT by Ditter ( God Bless Texas!)
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To: Ditter
In 1984 an illegal alien from Mexico ran a red light broadsided my sons car and killed him he got off scot free. I am not in favor of people entering our country illegally but it is not all Rick Perrys fault like so many on here seem to think.

I am sorry to hear that. I am not blaming it all on Rick Perry. He is just doing what he deems is politically expedient. Our political and corporate elites care more about the rights of lawbreakers than they do the safety and security of their fellow citizens. It is all about money and power.

What about Arizona,New Mexico and California? What have those governors done? The blame is on the US for not enforcing our borders both north and south.

Under the Constitution, the federal government is responsible. I will say that AZ has been a leader in the fight against illegal aliens.

64 posted on 09/06/2015 10:44:12 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Ditter

Illegal aliens have no right to be in the country. They certainly don’t have any right to special breaks on education that Texas taxpayers like me have to pay for. It may not be all Perry’s fault that they came but he certainly did help to turn on the magnet and put out a welcome mat, didn’t he? He also said that if I disagree with him, I have no heart. I am tired of having illegals here and I am tired of their CoC crony enablers like Rick Perry insult me.


65 posted on 09/06/2015 10:48:37 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: kabar

The corrupt Mexican government is the main problem. How does our federal government deal with that?


66 posted on 09/06/2015 10:53:03 AM PDT by Ditter ( God Bless Texas!)
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To: nhwingut

I like Rick Perry but he is not motivated to secure the border. Not the way we all want it secured.


67 posted on 09/06/2015 10:53:35 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: BobL
“You know what’s hard. Building a 95 story building is HARD. Building a wall is EASY. I’m a builder, I build things.”

Now that's funny, and true...

68 posted on 09/06/2015 10:55:55 AM PDT by Iscool (HOA member...(heaven is a gated community))
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To: Ditter

Secure the border and track and deport visa overstays. Make e-verify mandatory. Follow the Trump immigration position paper.


69 posted on 09/06/2015 10:56:11 AM PDT by kabar
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To: iontheball

Going to be comical seeing that ‘Israeli wall’ thru downtown Laredo...


70 posted on 09/06/2015 11:01:17 AM PDT by Iscool (HOA member...(heaven is a gated community))
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To: nhwingut

What about those who overstay their visas?

A wall, however tall and long won’t deal with that aspect of illegal immigration.

During my long lifetime there has not been enough “interior enforcement,” to discourage illegal immigrants and employers.

And none of the candidates talk about it.


71 posted on 09/06/2015 11:02:32 AM PDT by truth_seeker (come with the outlws.)
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To: Ditter
A woman who works for me crossed the Rio Grande hence the term wetback, got her green card married a man who did the same. They have 3 sons, one has graduated from college, one is in medical school and another is a college student. They are a family of outstanding citizens that any state would be proud to have.

They will be a real asset to Mexico...

72 posted on 09/06/2015 11:03:52 AM PDT by Iscool (HOA member...(heaven is a gated community))
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To: nhwingut

One of the problems with Rick’s ‘solution’, is that it’s not permanent. Additional border personnel can always be slashed when another subversive like Obama becomes President. A wall is permanent.


73 posted on 09/06/2015 11:14:14 AM PDT by mbrfl (fightingmad)
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74 posted on 09/06/2015 11:21:39 AM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
Run and Done.

75 posted on 09/06/2015 1:03:24 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW)
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To: nhwingut

Might be good read, Bump


76 posted on 09/06/2015 1:14:26 PM PDT by CPT Clay
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To: Mashood
What's stopping the wall from having a 20 foot deep, 2-feet wide(or whatever the beck it takes) heavily reinforced foundation deep into the ground, bristling with sensors to detect any digging close by. Heck we traveled 230,000 miles to the moon and back and we can't build a wall?
77 posted on 09/06/2015 2:05:50 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: SmokingJoe

Who’s saying we can’t build a wall?


78 posted on 09/06/2015 3:22:48 PM PDT by Mashood
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To: nhwingut

“Rick Perry: Border Wall Nothing More Than Rhetoric”

Wow, the Trump Effect has smoked out yet another “Can’t Do” GOPe spineless squish!

BTW, the GOPe strategy is becoming pretty obvious: practically none of the 16 dwarfs have a snowball’s chance in hell of being nominated based on their own merits, so their sole job assignment from the GOPe is to Get Trump! as long as the kommie media continues to give them a national platform for spouting anti-Trumpisms.


79 posted on 09/06/2015 9:06:46 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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