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WDBJ TV Killer vs. Dylann Roof: Is it Time to Ban the "Gay" Flag?
The New American ^ | 28 August 2015 | Selwyn Duke

Posted on 08/28/2015 6:01:35 PM PDT by VitacoreVision

Both men wanted a race war. Both men committed murder in an attempt to spark it. But both men’s stories are treated very differently by the media.

The world is shocked by the killing of 24-year-old reporter Alison Parker and 27-year-old cameraman Adam Ward, of small Virginia station WDBJ (a CBS affiliate), by disgruntled and disturbed ex-co-worker Vester Lee Flanagan II, who not incidentally is homosexual. By interrupting a live TV interview and committing his act on air, Flanagan, 41, got the attention he apparently craved and gave the world something unforgettable: real-life murder appearing movie-style, in deadly living color. And while such a thing makes the story impossible for even politically correct media to completely ignore — black-on-white crimes normally receive no national coverage — it’s quite possible to cover it politically correctly.

It’s no surprise that some have compared Flanagan to Dylann Roof, the 21-year-old murderer of nine people in the Charleston, South Carolina, church shooting on June 17. Not only did both men commit violence intended to spark a race war, but Flanagan — a failed reporter who wrote that he’d “already been a human powder keg for a while” — cited the church massacre as the event that sent him “over the top.” He said that he “put down a deposit for a gun on 6/19/15,” two days after Charleston, and that if Roof wanted a “race war,” to “BRING IT.” Both men also made their racial views public, Roof through an online website and Flanagan via a 23-page manifesto sent to ABC News.

But despite these striking similarities, the type of guilt by association drawn by the media is very different in each case. As InfoWars reports:

Police reportedly confiscated a gay pride flag from Flanagan’s apartment on Wednesday, but in an example of hypocrisy, this hasn’t sparked outrage from liberals who wanted to ban the Confederate flag due to its association with Charleston, S.C. church shooter Dylann Roof.
“Libs got the Confederate flag taken down in South Carolina,” blogger Dave Blount pointed out. “They have imposed a de facto ban throughout the country through their control of major retailers like Walmart, Amazon, eBay, Sears, etc.”
“The show The Dukes of Hazard has been taken off the air because it features the flag on the roof of a car.”

Yet the rainbow flag is getting a pass, despite being associated with a movement that makes demonization a specialty. Behaving as if those upholding marriage’s correct definition (one man, one woman) cannot, ever, have sincere intellect-derived beliefs, the homosexual lobby routinely impugns them as “bigots” and “haters.” And the message is clear: If you oppose faux marriage, you cannot be a good person — and you deserve whatever you get. Just ask Alveda King, niece of Martin Luther King, Jr. As she put it earlier this year, “When I speak out against gay marriage, the supporters of that movement threaten to kill me.”

None of this bleeps much on the media radar screen, despite Flanagan making his status as a homosexual black man central to the issue of his actions. Instead, the media has focused on a common fallback issue: guns. As Powerline put it, “If we are going to take seriously the ideology of lunatics, it must be a two-way street. Dylann Roof’s racist ideology was taken very seriously…. In Flanagan’s case, the focus is on gun control rather than his equally racist ideology.”

Moving on, Flanagan was disciplined by WDBJ for, among many trespasses, violating station policy by wearing a Barack Obama button during an election report. This brought Powerline to another double standard:

So why do we not retroactively conclude that images of Barack Obama are hateful, like the Confederate flag, and must be banned? Glenn Reynolds asks, “Will Obama apologize for the behavior of one of his followers [or say, ‘If I had a psycho son, he’d look like Vester Lee’]?” Of course not. But imagine if a racist white killer who worked for a television station had been similarly disciplined for wearing, say, a Ted Cruz button. Do you not think that fact would be deemed highly relevant, and highly embarrassing to Senator Cruz?

But we don’t have to imagine, as conservative figures have been implicated in others’ crimes for far less. When Arizona representative Gabby Giffords was shot by an insane man in 2011, Sarah Palin was criticized for previously having used cross-hairs imagery on a map showing Democrats who should be targeted for defeat. And leftists, including PBS icon Bill Moyers, have often blamed “right-wing” talk radio for various acts of violence.

But what of Obama? He once said of Republicans, "If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun.” He told supporters in 2008 to argue with their neighbors “and get in their face.” He stated in 2010 that he spoke to certain experts because he wanted to “know whose a** to kick." That same year he was being interviewed by Spanish-language station Univision and said that he wanted Hispanics to help him “punish our enemies” — those “enemies” being fellow Americans who disagreed with him politically.

Of course, everyone uses figurative speech at times (life would be quite dry if we all spoke like Mr. Spock), and context can clarify a quotation’s meaning. And all sides use some incendiary rhetoric, all sides sometimes implicate others’ rhetoric in violence, and all sides will deny that their rhetoric had anything to do with a violent act seemingly committed in its name. What do these universally exhibited contradictions indicate? That the truth here is quite nuanced.

None of us exist in a social vacuum. We all are influenced by others, and influence others, no matter how slightly. As for words, who would deny that Adolf Hitler’s incendiary rhetoric inspired violence and destruction or that imams preaching hate in countless mosques and madrassahs worldwide have the same effect? On the other hand, it’s well known that Enlightenment philosophers — such as Thomas Paine with his pamphlet Common Sense — helped inspire a war: The American Revolution. But are all these individuals equally culpable in evil?

The reality is that rhetoric, whether good or bad, can inspire violence. And either variety can inspire justifiable or unjustifiable violence. So should we all stop talking (of course, even body language can cause fights)? What we should do is recognize that the real issue is not whether rhetoric is “controversial,” “divisive,” or even “inflammatory,” but whether it is true and warranted utterance at the time in question.

There is no doubt that Vester Lee Flanagan and Dylann Roof were influenced by others. The question is: Were they influenced by very different forces, as is the usual assumption?

Or were they mostly influenced by the same ones?


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: brycewilliams; confederateflag; dylannroof; gayflag; media; racism; vesterleeflanagan; vitacorevision
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1 posted on 08/28/2015 6:01:35 PM PDT by VitacoreVision
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To: VitacoreVision

+1000


2 posted on 08/28/2015 6:05:07 PM PDT by lightman (O Lord, save Thy people and bless Thine inheritance, giving to Thy Church vict'ry o'er Her enemies.)
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To: VitacoreVision

Well, one of my first reactions following this week’s horrible tragedy was wondering if TV Land was no longer going to show programs like “Good Times” or “227” or “Amen” or even “The Jeffersons” for the same reasons they dumped the Dukes (and serving humanity just as much or more likely, as little).


3 posted on 08/28/2015 6:06:05 PM PDT by OttawaFreeper ("Keeping your stick down used to be a commandment, but not anymore" Harry Sinden, 1988)
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Everyone forgets that Philadelphia AMTRAK tragedy. From what I hear, hitting the emergency brake in that situation is what they are trained NOT to do. It makes the cars “pancake”.

If so, that was a German Wings situation. That guy was trying to kill as many people as possible. And he is a gay activist.

4 posted on 08/28/2015 6:07:37 PM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (Trumpbots - why conservatives can't have nice things.)
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To: VitacoreVision

Ya’ll be racist like a muthafaker man! He jus’ be tryin’ to get sum male lovin’!


5 posted on 08/28/2015 6:09:56 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Bush [the 90s rock band] for POTUS 2016!!!)
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To: VitacoreVision

Ban the “Gay” Flag?

YES! People are dying because of the hate it represents.


6 posted on 08/28/2015 6:12:25 PM PDT by donna (Pray for Revival.)
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To: VitacoreVision
There is no doubt that Vester Lee Flanagan and Dylann Roof were influenced by others. The question is: Were they influenced by very different forces, as is the usual assumption?

As I recall, not so many years ago there was an incendiary speaker named Jeremiah Wright. Who might he have influenced?

7 posted on 08/28/2015 6:14:54 PM PDT by immadashell (The inmates are running the asylum.)
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Two really beautiful pictures.
8 posted on 08/28/2015 6:18:35 PM PDT by AmericanCheeseFood (“I happen to agree with it 100 percent,” - Trump on eminent domain)
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To: VitacoreVision

The entire dynamic/discussion on race in this country is pathological. It’s bound to make the sketchy brains agitated.


9 posted on 08/28/2015 6:20:36 PM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: VitacoreVision

Oops, I forgot to mention “Amos and Andy”, but I guess that title would be one that even the nostalgia channels would have dared not touch even before the Charleston shootings.


10 posted on 08/28/2015 6:21:28 PM PDT by OttawaFreeper ("Keeping your stick down used to be a commandment, but not anymore" Harry Sinden, 1988)
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11 posted on 08/28/2015 6:23:12 PM PDT by South40 (Falling for Trump's rhetoric while ignoring his liberal past is incredibly foolish)
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To: VitacoreVision

BAN THE GAY PRIDE RAINBOW FLAG

Write Amazon & EBay and demand it !

f-ing pukes will not do a thing ....


12 posted on 08/28/2015 6:29:30 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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black power flag = what an ugly depressing banner

looks like it stands for hatred ,darkness and greed


13 posted on 08/28/2015 6:30:41 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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14 posted on 08/28/2015 6:48:36 PM PDT by Baynative (Liberty lost is a high price to pay for the experiment of socialism.)
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To: Baynative

As You’re tag line says
We’re a socialist experiment,
awaiting a spark.


15 posted on 08/28/2015 7:34:56 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: VitacoreVision

Well it does offend lots of people.


16 posted on 08/28/2015 8:10:27 PM PDT by Savage Beast (We the People OF THE UNITED STATESÂ…do ordain and establish this Constitution FOR THE UNITED STATES.)
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To: VitacoreVision

It’s a stupid comparison.

It’s a fourth grade intellect that sees one event, and automatically assigns the same set of facts to an alternative event

It’s akin to saying, “I don’t like Trump” and the response is, “You love Obama.”

The two issues are not related, and the jump from one to the other is a chasm the size of the Grand Canyon.

( now wait for the responses saying I love gay marriage. It’s so predictable.)


17 posted on 08/28/2015 8:29:46 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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Yeh, cuz it be rassist...you see all dem rainbow colors? Where be de black color? Ain’t no black color! Dat be rassist rat dere!


18 posted on 08/28/2015 8:30:40 PM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Vermont Lt

It’s actually a great comparison.

Dylann Roof had pictures of a Confederate Flag and the Confederate Flag was banned.

WDBJ TV Killer had the Gay Rainbow flag (he was gay) in his house and, well, shouldn’t it be banned as well?


19 posted on 08/28/2015 8:55:00 PM PDT by VitacoreVision
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To: Vermont Lt
Your analogy is incomplete.

It’s akin to saying, “I don’t like Trump” and the response is, “You love Obama.”

And then someone says, "I don't like Obama" and the response ISN'T, "You love Trump."

Holding to different standards. Yes, we see the "X, therefore P" as a non-sequitur and likewise "not X, therefore not P" (X and P having absolutely nothing to do with each other), that someone DOES hold a different axiom seeing a connection between X and P belies inconsistency (in the form of bigotry in this case) when they fail to acknowledge a connection (in THEIR axiom set, not ours) between !X and !P.

20 posted on 08/28/2015 9:57:14 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (The world map will be quite different come 20 January 2017.)
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