Posted on 08/22/2015 9:40:14 AM PDT by Patton@Bastogne
The hell with DEFUND- PROSECUTE the planned parenthood baby butchers!
They counted over 550 in Orlando
PP personnel were disgusting.
I was there too.
Would have been nice to meet you
Oh, I agree! maybe we did though and just don’t know it :)
I thought Orlando had a good turn out all in all, but it sure seems complacency still runs rampant.
What part of town do you live in? I’m in WP
Re: Posters, etc.
It is not the graphic nature of the posters, but they are the wrong posters to maximize the impact of the videos. What PP is doing is even more horrible than abortion, if that is possible.
These are not saline or diced up babies, so pictures of those do not hone in on the message of the videos. These are babies delivered as late in term as possible, delivered as living as possible, IN ORDER TO PROFIT from their human organs.
Yes all abortion is horrible and evil.
But this present battle exposes the evil of PP and their ilk and associates in a way that will reach more of the “mushy middle”.
To achieve the largest impact, use images from the videos.
Some FReeper posted this, and I think it would also make an excellent poster:
ABORT PP AND SELL THE PARTS!
“PROSECUTE!”
YES
but defund asap, too; State level, federal level, United Way, Unions, employer matching contributions, corporate donors — anyone who gives them a penny needs to feel the heat.
Use all means:
Violations of the ban on Partial Birth Abortion and Born Alive protection acts abound in these videos!
But also: tax laws, postal regulations regarding the mailing of human remains, clinic sanitation regulations (the latest trailer stated there is staph bacteria in these places), any and all regulations and laws known to man . . .
OSHA — surely the way they handle “medical waste” is hazardous to their employees . . .
etc. etc. etc.
Hit hard and fast, while the iron is hot.
We normally have about 10 at the PP in New Haven Konnecticut - had about 80 today - that's pretty good for a lunie-leftist state like ours.
we need more Black Pro Life citizens and pastors protesting in the Ghetoo Planned Parenthood offices.
I wish we could rally the minorities on this...maybe usurping the Black Lives matter crowd!
...the pictures make those people seem like extremist nuts...
I am personally acquainted with several women who, upon seeing photos like that, decided not to have abortions. Those mothers never regretted their choice to walk away from the clinic doors.
Women who have had abortions, or who support PP, fall into 3 general categories, from what I’ve observed:
Frightened young women who were told in a moment of vulnerability, that i’s not a baby, it’s just a blob of goo—and later realize what they’ve done, and must deal with remorse and grief for the rest of their lives.
The second group consists of women who have had an abortion in the past, and say it was the right decision at that point in their lives. This group remains pro-choice and would not hesitate to advocate abortion for their friends and even their own daughters. These women, unlike the third group below, are not sociopaths. They still have a conscience, it’s just that they’d rather not think about it if they can avoid it. Their collective conscience has been suppressed, asleep for years, but never killed off. The photos you find objectionable are awakening their collective conscience, and that’s a good thing. They realize now they were lied to, and they’d prefer their daughters know the truth: it’s a baby. Handle with care.
The feminazis who vehemently support abortion, who denounce our side as “extremist” and who won’t hesitate to physically assault pro-life protestors in defense of their “right” to butcher defenseless children, are quite simply, sociopaths. These are people without a conscience, who enjoy the suffering of defenseless children—and women. Note their superior attitude toward pregnant women and mothers. Pregnancy is “oppression” of women and perpetuates the “patriarchy”. Pregnancy must be destroyed, to “empower” women. Women who celebrate pregnancy and childbirth are less intelligent and less worthy of respect, in their view. So what if they and their babies are butchered? They deserve it, according to these violent psychopaths.
This last group must be defeated. These photos are helping to do that, at last, and need to be publicized loudly and repeatedly and more, not less. Evil requires secrecy and ignorance (ignore-ance) to succeed—why would PP be scrambling to suppress the videos?
The general public, the taxpayers—not just the pregnant women going in the door of the clinic—are finally seeing the reality of abortion, and they are paying attention.
It most likely is throwing them off supporting this issue.
You can blowhard all you want but it's reality. And FU with your insulting comments,
I personally don't give a rats ass what your wifey says either.
Those pictures are very true and extreme, and I can handle it. Most cannot
and become queasy at the sight of their own turd in the toilet. The issue does not
condone the "EXTREMISM" of chopped up babies on a poster. I expect more respect
for those dead babies instead of being propped up as an EXTREMIST agenda.
There are better ways to deal with this and get the message out.
QUESTIONS?
May as well dig up babies from the trash bin and place their heads on pikes!
There is no difference here. It's just as depraved as the freaks doing the murdering. IMO
For decades this kind of postering and raving has not worked. Maybe it's time
to take a more sane approach instead of doing the same thing expecting a
different result.
I fear the ground being made on this issue may be dissolved due to the Nut jobs
and their followers. That's just how I see it.
it’s a joy to report, we had about 200 this morning and into the afternoon at the infamous (stem express live baby brain “harvesting” facility) at PP on the Alameda, San Jose. sadly, young women and families were still seen entering this afternoon.
Step One: Shut down Planned Parenthood.
Step TWO: INDIVIDUAL STATES: nullify the unconstitutional decision of Roe v. Wade and re-instate your anti-abortion laws. The Constitution, the feds ONLY source of legitimate power, delegates NO authority to the feds to interfere with state anti-abortion laws.
The Constitution, the only legal bulwark against federal tyranny, is the only source of legitimate federal power. Therefore, by definition, unconstitutional federal acts and decisions are acts of tyranny. (The so-called Incorporation Doctrine, used by the feds to interfere with the states via the Fourteenth Amendment, is fatally flawed and utterly unconstitutional.)
Again, the Constitution gives the feds NO power to interfere with state anti-abortion or anti-gay laws. Time to blast the phony federal excuses for unconstitutional activity by individual state nullification.
So remember, when it comes to federal action, you only have to ask yourself one question: IS IT CONSTITUTIONAL?
If a state confronts the feds with that question, having already researched, finding no constitutional authority for the action, giving notification of the results, and having their ducks in line to take action, then the state can confront the feds thusly: You (the feds) only have to ask yourself one question: IT IS CONSTITUTIONAL? WELL IS IT PUNK?
I would love to see that before I leave this earth.
We’ve had 40 years of ProLife, Inc. trying to persuade, cajole, and curry favor with the political class. It has accomplished pretty much nothing. Even when confronted with the latest videos, the political class has stared at its shoes, and kicked the ground.... And done precisely nothing.
Plainly put: the gop faction of the uniparty is not at all interested in ending infanticide. And they’re in active collaboration with the ‘rats. They both profit from the continuation of the practice. Thus, it will continue to be legal.
While I have faith that infanticide will eventually become illegal in the US, it will happen one month after the last “clinic” closes for lack of business.
Again, I love the signs calling out the preachers.
Still, this courageous expose provides a unique opportunity: to better hone our message, to inform the uninformed of what legal abortion inexorably leads to, to more forcefully hold our elected officials’ feet to the fire.
These people went well above and beyond what most of us could not even dream of. Their unbelievable efforts require the utmost response from all of us. I, like most of us, am struggling to best determine what I should best do and how I can best do it, NOW! OR at least through the release of the remaining videos.
This opportunity to educate, to convince, and to hold peoples’ feet to the fire, cannot be wasted! Heaven Help Us! figure out a way to do so.
This unique opportunity, based on the courageous efforts of those who made these videos, cannot be wasted. Not this time. This time, PP dies! We just have to figure out how to do it, and make sure it haoppens.
...”it has taken years to get into the depths of PP and expose them..”
You’re referring to the CMP videos? Are you saying those aren’t as repugnant as the still photographs? These videos are like the photos on steroids—moving pictures, if you will-—and have kicked it up a notch. Photographic evidence is PRECISELY the thing that has exposed PP. If you object to the photos, you’re in essence saying Daleiden shouldn’t have kicked it up a notch by making the videos and distributing them on the internet. So your objection makes no sense
“May as well dig up babies from the trash bin and place their heads on pikes!”
Why, pray tell, would we need to do that? PP has already thrown babies in the trash, has already placed chopped babies on pie plates. Our side has just recorded and presented the evidence.
...”there’s no difference here. It’s just as depraved as the freaks doing the murdering, IMO.”
Do tell. And refer again to my comments above. Also, while you’re at it, you might want to refer to PP’s statements over the years, and ask yourself whose side you’re on, really. You say pro-lifers are “just as depraved” as PP; they say we’re worse. Same outlook, differing only in degree, while revealing the exact same motivation—to keep the depravity of Planned Parenthood behind closed doors, while helping it to continue.
...”maybe it’s time to take a more sane approach...”
I’m all ears. What exactly would be an acceptably “sane” approach, in your estimation? And are you following your own advice by actively pursuing your sane approach? What if any progress has come from your sane approach thus far?
These are not rhetorical questions. I am truly interested in learning your response.
Planned butcherhood will die. Because the mask has been pulled off and it disgusts most people. We’re never going to convince the extremists. And frankly we don’t need to. Take away enough of their clients and planned butcherhood goes away.
The videos were a godsend and I think it just injected some wonderful energy. I have faith in people. I have faith in God. I have no faith in politicians.
If you don't think those graphic pitures are extreme, and I'm not talking
about the Videos, those are necessary, but rather graphic pictures in the
streets where I believe more people would show up to protest if they
weren't associated with a cult like fixation.
You can hang on to your extremism all you want. I'm seeing it from a perspective
of gathering momentum based on numbers, not pictures.
If you think removing Abortion is solely based on those dismembered baby pictures
then you are as screwed up in the head as the Pro-abortionists.
I'm saying attract more people to Protests. But you go ahead and put
those Baby heads on pikes and in the end Abortion will stay because of it.
The last few decades since RvW proves that. Not every woman has had an Abortion
and wants to be labeled standing next to some nut job with a baby head on a pike.
You clearly understand exactly what I'm saying, so if you have anything more
to say at this point then you're just bloviating. You just go on delaying the
end of Abortion.
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