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In the Wake of Proposition 47, California Sees a Crime Wave
Townhall.com ^ | August 16, 2015 | Debra J. Saunders

Posted on 08/16/2015 4:51:37 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Kaslin

No doubt that Rand Paul’s “legalize drugs” crowd will consider this an ‘aberration’, and if they passed the same laws the results would be TOTALLY DIFFERENT.


21 posted on 08/16/2015 5:57:56 AM PDT by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my 'profile' page))
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To: certrtwngnut

Assume the State has 100,000 cells.
Definition: “Design Capacity” is 1 inmate per cell.
Assume the State houses 137,500 inmates in 100,000 cells.
That would be an inmate population of 137.5 per hundred cells, or 137.5% of design capacity.


22 posted on 08/16/2015 5:58:32 AM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: Kaslin
Proponents argued that lesser punishment for low-level offenders would enhance public safety.

Only in the perverted and diseased mind of the libtard, could such idiocy and insanity be spewed forth on the public.

23 posted on 08/16/2015 5:59:18 AM PDT by Common Sense 101
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To: Kaslin

Who could have seen this coming?

Everyone.


24 posted on 08/16/2015 6:00:33 AM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Kaslin

Whey don’t they just make everything legal, then there would be no crime.


25 posted on 08/16/2015 6:02:46 AM PDT by SkyDancer ("Nobody Said I Was Perfect But Yet Here I Am")
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To: Kaslin

Maybe Brown should go to the hood, light up a joint and pass it around while he politely asks for a reduction in crime.


26 posted on 08/16/2015 6:12:43 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: Kaslin

sounds like an attempt to shift responsibility for the illegal alien crime wave elsewhere


27 posted on 08/16/2015 6:27:21 AM PDT by Nep Nep
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To: thackney

I still can’t grasp it. If you have 137.5 people in 100 rooms with a capacity of 1 per room you are 37.5 over capacity. I figure that to be 1.375 per room. This is way above my pay grade. Thank you for trying to help me.


28 posted on 08/16/2015 6:33:58 AM PDT by certrtwngnut
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To: Gen.Blather

You’re absolutely right and that is why trying to reason with a liberal is pointless. If you want to talk about whether social security was a good idea for instance, you are thinking of what might have happened if we had never had the idea brought up. A liberal is thinking what would happen if we suddenly stopped all social security payments now. They don’t see this as two separate questions, they think one is the same as the other.


29 posted on 08/16/2015 6:41:36 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Racism is racism, regardless of the race of the racist.)
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To: Gen.Blather

Liberals always deny human nature in policy doctrine. They’ve gotten a lot of innocent people killed that way.


30 posted on 08/16/2015 6:57:05 AM PDT by headstamp 2
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To: Kaslin

Property crime? Why lower the penalties for that? One size fits all? How stupid...


31 posted on 08/16/2015 7:00:44 AM PDT by sargon
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To: headstamp 2

“They’ve gotten a lot of innocent people killed that way.”

What bothers me is that they mostly are not in any way injured themselves. Further, they repeat the same mistakes injuring even more people. This happens when they are in government at any level.

As an aside, I have no sympathy when they act on their altruistic liberal instincts and go to a Muslim country to show how they’re “down with the struggle” and hideous things happen to them. I’ve often wondered, if, when they are having their head chopped off with a dull knife they come to realize the error or their world view. Probably not. Although, in these cases they at least only injure themselves and those they left behind.


32 posted on 08/16/2015 7:03:28 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: billyboy15

“It the Liberals who in the 70’s wanted us to unilaterally disarm...”

So I’m not the only one in the country that realizes that these people never went away, but simply morphed into a new form, using new causes to try to get this country destroyed.

And note has the left still has NEVER APOLOGIZED for being absolutely wrong during the Cold War, and WILL NOT tell us the truth regarding Global Warming - which is that there is virtually NOTHING we can do about, even if true, if we keep shutting down coal plants while China and the rest of the world open new ones at 20 times the rate.


33 posted on 08/16/2015 7:07:32 AM PDT by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my 'profile' page))
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It’s called game theory. The perpetrators instantly adapt to the new rules to reap the advantages and avoid the penalties.

Ha...even easier...

It's Adam Smiths invisible hand nudging the perps around to maximize their gains.

34 posted on 08/16/2015 7:13:28 AM PDT by spokeshave (If an illegal alien is undocumented immigrant a drug dealer is an unlicensed pharmacist)
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To: Kaslin
Prop 47 has made it easier for drug offenders to avoid mandated treatment programs. The measure reduced penalties for the theft of goods worth less than $950. Habitual offenders know that, critics say, and they've changed their habits to avoid hard time.

How stupid is that. Theft is not the same as drug possession: there's actually a victim in the case of theft.

Solution: Double the penalties for theft and eliminate the penalties for drug possession. Problem solved.

35 posted on 08/16/2015 8:21:30 AM PDT by bassmaner (Hey commies: I am a' white male, and I am guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white guilt' elsewhere.)
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To: bassmaner

It’s Kalifornia


36 posted on 08/16/2015 8:39:21 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
"The Safe Neighborhoods and Schools Act" ...Proposition 47, the California ballot initiative, which was approved in November 2014 with 60 percent of the vote, downgraded drug possession and many property crimes from a felony to a misdemeanor. Proponents argued that lesser punishment for low-level offenders would enhance public safety... In San Francisco, theft from cars is up 47 percent this year over the same period in 2014. Auto theft is up by 17 percent. Robberies are up 23 percent. And aggravated assaults are up 2 percent, according to San Francisco police spokesman Carlos Manfredi... The City of Angels saw a 12.7 percent increase in overall crime this year, according to the Los Angeles Times; violent offenses rose 20.6 percent, while property crime rose by 11 percent... Michael Rushford of the Criminal Justice Legal Foundation sees Prop 47 as a toxic extension of Gov. Jerry Brown's 2011 "realignment" policy. Realignment switched the responsibility of incarcerating nonserious, nonviolent, non-sex-offender felons from state prisons to local jails. Then Prop 47 whittled away at the definition of what constitutes a felony... Bastian took issue... "It's taking felonies and making them misdemeanors." Police still can arrest offenders -- and should... Brown's realignment plan was a brilliant move politically, as it passed the hot potato of releasing inmates from Sacramento to local sheriffs... after three years of realignment and five months of Prop 47, the state prison population was down to 112,300. That's more than 50,000 fewer state inmates. A change that big cannot come without consequences -- and those consequences most likely are not safer neighborhoods.
What's Governor Moonbeam's FR nick?
37 posted on 08/16/2015 8:59:08 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW)
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38 posted on 08/16/2015 9:00:44 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW)
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To: Kaslin

So why do they place drugs and theft in the same category, it’s not that simple. pot? Smoke it somewhere that’s not some confined enclosure or pay a fine. Meth, Crack, etc are a different story.


39 posted on 08/16/2015 9:18:47 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: certrtwngnut

You state it correctly.


40 posted on 08/16/2015 9:40:02 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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