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How Far Can I Go? And How Much Can I Do?
China Digital Times ^ | 8/15/15 | He Xiaoxin

Posted on 08/15/2015 7:35:31 PM PDT by Kartographer

Journalist He Xiaoxin of The Beijing News (新京报) traveled to report from the scene of the massive explosion in a chemical warehouse at the Tianjin port, in which 104 people have been reported killed so far. Dramatic photos and videos of the explosion traveled quickly around the world via the Internet. But in this photo essay, He provides an up-close, personal look at the devastation. Propaganda officials have since banned media from reporting on the explosion or posting stories that did not originate from Xinhua:

(Excerpt) Read more at chinadigitaltimes.net ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; chinaexplosion; explosion; tanggu; tianjin
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To: steve86

61 posted on 08/15/2015 10:43:09 PM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc OÂ’Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: null and void

Thank you for that really great ping. Well worth the read!


62 posted on 08/15/2015 10:49:29 PM PDT by Finny (Be ready to own what you vote for. Voting "against" is pretend. You can only vote "for.")
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To: wideminded
1. The first test of an atomic bomb was almost exactly a year after the Port Chicago explosion. Of course that was the more complex implosion type bomb. But if they had had any type of atomic weapons ready a year earlier, don't you think they would have been used to end the war?

But that is what the article at rense.com is implying. That of the two ships at the dock, the Quinault Victory was loaded with a U-235 bomb intended for use against Japan in 1944. Records show that the destination was Tinian, the same island that the Hiroshima bomb was sent to a year later in 1945. Read all the text to the end for corroborating information.

2. From your link: "According to the US Department of Energy Oak Ridge records, 74 kilograms of U-235 was available by December 1943, 93 kg by December 1944 and 289 kg by December 1945."
I see two problems with this: 1. If they already had 74 kg by the end of 1943, it does not make sense that they only produced another 19 kg in the following year. 2. According to Wikipedia, there were only 50 kg available by July 1945 and it was all used in the Hiroshima bomb.

You surely can't believe Wikipedia versus recently declassified documents stating facts. Regardless of how much U-235 was produced, they actually had enough by July 1944 to make 6 minimum yield nuclear bombs, as 15.5kg was the minimum required for one bomb. The actual Hiroshima bomb was of a much higher yield, I believe about 60kg was used (according to government documents, 289kg available in late 1945).

Whether or not it is believed to be a nuclear blast at Port Chicago in 1944, you have to wonder about the blast yield being far in excess of the ordnance stored in the ships and dock. Or that it formed a crater on the seabed far larger than that of the ordnance but matching the characteristics of a nuclear underwater blast. Or that the cruiser Indianapolis shipped out of Port Chicago in 1945 under similar circustances to the Quinault Victory in 1944. Both loaded with two mysterious boxcars and nothing else, destined for Tinian. However, the Indianapolis made it to Tinian (but was sunk just after delivery), and the bomb was dropped on Hiroshima. I don't know what to believe, but the evidence is very suspicious.

63 posted on 08/15/2015 10:54:17 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: UCANSEE2
I concluded it was the aluminum rims from the cars. Many years ago in High School we had shop classes including metal. We would collect aluminum on trash night to melt down and cast into large "Jacks." The temperature to melt aluminum is 1220.58 °F.

What bothered me was some of the rims looked they were burned. Aluminum burns at 6920°F.

In the films there were three separate explosions. The last appeared to be a fuel air event. I have my doubts now about the official story coming out of Beijing.

I don't believe this was a surface event anymore.
64 posted on 08/15/2015 11:07:45 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media. #2ndAmendmentMatters)
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To: Kartographer

Huge Fire Sale this weekend. Come on down.

65 posted on 08/15/2015 11:33:21 PM PDT by McGruff (Trump/Cruz 2016 - My Dream Team)
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To: virgil

Bhopal was fumes no?

Not an explosion per se like this

And a much higher death count with 5000 dead initially and maybe 30000 total in time and half million injured by the methyl

Union carbide is not a name you hear much anymore is it

Pesticides

I can still remember the body piles on TV....children

Awful


66 posted on 08/15/2015 11:34:40 PM PDT by wardaddy (My ears are bleeding....FOX ..all I hear are shrill high pitched whiney women taking over each other)
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To: metmom
Look at the three intact VWs in the middle of this row.

Having worked with munitions for years, I have always been fascinated by the seemingly random "saves." There are always things that just don't add up, but then again, this whole story makes not sense.

This reporter is quite brave facing both the state and the dangers of the situation. Amazing photos--makes you wonder what was lost in the ones the police deleted.

67 posted on 08/15/2015 11:50:40 PM PDT by antidisestablishment (I was mad when they changed Republican states to Red, but I now I see they were right.)
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To: Kartographer

I’m not sure how many casualties the government is claiming, but, iirc, most humans can’t live through a pressure wave over 5 psi. Those who do will suffer some damage. Those vehicles are compressed to the structural members in the doors, etc.


68 posted on 08/16/2015 12:09:34 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: FreedomPoster

Just a guess but that crater looks to be some 400 ft. across, judging from the length of what appear to be shipping containers to the upper right of it in the pile of debris.


69 posted on 08/16/2015 12:15:54 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: roadcat

Where did the Indianapolis pick up the bombs it delivered?


70 posted on 08/16/2015 12:17:08 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: UCANSEE2

If you check out the images in the linked article, you will see that some of the rims are partially melted. The puddles could be either.


71 posted on 08/16/2015 12:19:12 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Carl Vehse

Based on the pic in #2 I think the first explosion dispersed a lot of unexploded material into the air which then detonated. The cars being crushed like that suggests a strong downward shock wave.


72 posted on 08/16/2015 12:30:32 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: Kartographer

All moon roofs are broken out.

The tops on those cares were bent down by shockwave.

The top three cars, numbers 2 and 3 have clear evidence of doors with shockwave damage.

Those roofs, are all bent down in the middle. Falling debris would not have hit each one in the dead center middle

This is clearly shock-wave damage, but I couldn’t help but think how much it looked like vandalism too. Only in some ways.


73 posted on 08/16/2015 12:59:21 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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To: wideminded

That was a well-written article.

Interesting photo of all of the burned out cars. Except three right in the middle of a row - Yellow, blue and white I think they were. Beat up - but not burned. Weird.


74 posted on 08/16/2015 1:01:05 AM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts It is happening again.)
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To: wideminded

Similar to the Great Texas City Explosion from the SS Grandcamp circa 1947.


75 posted on 08/16/2015 1:11:10 AM PDT by Cvengr ( Adversity in life & death is inevitable; Stress is optional through faith in Christ.)
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To: antidisestablishment

Seems amazing the thousands injured, aren’t being reported.


76 posted on 08/16/2015 1:33:26 AM PDT by Cvengr ( Adversity in life & death is inevitable; Stress is optional through faith in Christ.)
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To: 17th Miss Regt

77 posted on 08/16/2015 2:09:20 AM PDT by Cvengr ( Adversity in life & death is inevitable; Stress is optional through faith in Christ.)
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To: null and void

Thanks, nully. Excellent reporting.


78 posted on 08/16/2015 3:10:16 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("All the time live the truth with love in your heart." ~Fr. Ho Lung)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
"The nitrates are just oxidizers, there has to be something combustible, and distribution is a factor."

I haven't read the article...just the list of chemicals above. Both calcium carbide and sodium cyanide are highly reactive as reducing agents (the opposite of oxidizers), and thus great "fuel" to go with the oxidizers.

79 posted on 08/16/2015 5:24:05 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (Newly fledged NRA Life Member (after many years as an "annual renewal" sort))
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To: PA Engineer
"The last appeared to be a fuel air event."

If the firemen sprayed water on dispersed (from the small explosions) calcium carbide, that is exactly what you would get.....carbide plus water gives off acetylene gas. Mixed with air, the acetylene would make a very strong "fuel-air" mix.

80 posted on 08/16/2015 5:31:06 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (Newly fledged NRA Life Member (after many years as an "annual renewal" sort))
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