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ALBERT EDWARDS WARNS: Prepare For Overwhelming 'Waves Of Deflation' To Suck Us Into Recession
BI ^ | 8-12-2015 | Ben Moshinsky

Posted on 08/12/2015 6:44:05 AM PDT by blam

Ben Moshinsky
August. 12, 2015

Societe Generale strategist Albert Edwards may have finally out-beared himself. He warns the China devaluation is a step toward "a financial-market rout every bit as large as 2008."

In his new note, Edwards says the Chinese currency devaluation is the beginning of a period of serious foreign-exchange weaknesses in Asia.

This will force down import prices into the US and EU economies, aggravating a deflationary cycle that hits corporate profits and ending in a Lehman-style crisis:

We expect the acceleration of EM devaluations to send waves of deflation to the west to overwhelm already struggling corporate profitability and take us back into outright recession. As investors realize yet another recession beckons, without any normalization of either interest rates or fiscal imbalances in this cycle, expect a financial market rout every bit as large as 2008.

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(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; deflation; economy; markets
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We're all gonna die. (again)
1 posted on 08/12/2015 6:44:05 AM PDT by blam
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"Edwards says the Chinese currency devaluation is the beginning of a period of serious foreign-exchange weaknesses in Asia."

Absolutely.

2 posted on 08/12/2015 6:45:25 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Save Western Civilization. Embrace the new Crusades.)
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Maybe this will finally force national economies around the world to seriously look at simplified tax codes and simplified business regulations to get their economies going again. That’s why it’s way overdue we have major tax reform here in the USA.


3 posted on 08/12/2015 6:46:32 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: blam
Prepare For Overwhelming 'Waves Of Deflation' To Suck Us Into Recession

"Damn! More phones to destroy!"

4 posted on 08/12/2015 6:47:09 AM PDT by BerniesFriend (Sarah Palin-"Lord knows she's attractive" says bitter Andrea Mitchell and the rest of the MSM)
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I am so screwed.


5 posted on 08/12/2015 6:47:46 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Dear Jeb Bush..... Trump upped his game. Up yours!.... Love, Laz.)
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Gold Is Ripping Higher

6 posted on 08/12/2015 6:47:46 AM PDT by blam (Jeff Sessions For President)
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What is the ize of the Chinese devaluing?


7 posted on 08/12/2015 6:48:55 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Ive given up on aphostrophys and spell chek on my current device...)
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What is the size of the Chinese devaluing?


8 posted on 08/12/2015 6:49:14 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Ive given up on aphostrophys and spell chek on my current device...)
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To: blam
GUNDLACH: If Oil Goes To $40 A Barrel, Something Is 'Very, Very Wrong With The World'
9 posted on 08/12/2015 6:53:09 AM PDT by blam (Jeff Sessions For President)
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"What is the size of the Chinese devaluing?"

Dr Copper Making Way Too Much Of China Devaluation

"The red metal is also sometimes referred to as Dr Copper for its ability to provide a prognosis of the health of the global economy. Down nearly 18% year to date, copper is making dire predictions."

"The People's Bank of China jolted markets overnight after lowering the renminbi’s daily reference rate against the US dollar by 1.8%, the largest such adjustment in its history.


10 posted on 08/12/2015 7:04:38 AM PDT by blam (Jeff Sessions For President)
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About 4% against the US dollar, so far. As I understand it, the Chinese have a “noisy” peg of the yuan against the US dollar, allowing trades within a +/- 2% band of the peg. But the US$ has soared in the past year (e.g., a 20% rise against the Euro and many other currencies), and China's policy has dragged the yuan upward along with the US$. This has hurt Chinese exports to other countries, and the devaluation is designed to realign its currency with other non-$ currencies.
11 posted on 08/12/2015 7:07:18 AM PDT by riverdawg
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As opposed to what we are in now?


12 posted on 08/12/2015 7:07:55 AM PDT by dfwgator
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I think perhaps this decline is at root similar to that in the China stock market.

the exuberance in copper and stocks coupled with the chinese propensity to gamble ran the prices up beyond the point of sustainability. One wonders what will become of the China warehouses full of those big copper billets (a Taipan reference)


13 posted on 08/12/2015 7:14:04 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, .. Iran deal & holocaust: Obama's batting clean up for Adolph Hitler)
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To: blam

Once again, I suggest that slowly, over a period of time, to withdraw a significant amount of cash to be kept in several different secure places under your control, but difficult to find during a police search.

Deflation is a huge opportunity to those that have cash, but the first banking and government response is to stop people from spending their money on valuables that are now inexpensive. Instead they want to create a cash shortage until they can flood the market with cash, resulting in serious inflation.

To make matters worse, if done incompetently, this can result in both deflation and inflation at the same time, since they affect different market segments. And having cash works here as well, as you can quickly spend your money before it loses value on those things whose prices are inflating, while spending the rest on those things that are deflating.


14 posted on 08/12/2015 7:29:00 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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Nothing that can’t be fixed by cranking the Fed printing presses up to 11.


15 posted on 08/12/2015 7:37:00 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: bert

They’ve probably been pledged to a bank as loan collateral ... several times. Sooner or later that will unravel.


16 posted on 08/12/2015 7:49:41 AM PDT by meatloaf
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——they’ve probably been pledged to a bank as loan collateral-—

ahh ha.... fantastic thought!

That’s what should have been done. Pledge the copper as collateral and then borrow 200% with which to buy margined stocks....... double your pleasure, double your losses

Now that’s the ticket!!

(bankers like to go for rides and it is up to the customer to take them)


17 posted on 08/12/2015 8:35:51 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, .. Iran deal & holocaust: Obama's batting clean up for Adolph Hitler)
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To: BenLurkin
China Economic Data Underwhelms Once Again
18 posted on 08/12/2015 9:26:27 AM PDT by blam (Jeff Sessions For President)
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To: bert

Copper roofs look nice and wear very well as they turn a pleasant shade of green.


19 posted on 08/12/2015 9:29:25 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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Meanwhile copper is higher than a kite.


20 posted on 08/12/2015 9:30:41 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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