Posted on 08/08/2015 6:59:12 AM PDT by Bratch
Ignore the colors on this map. Voting for Walker, Rubio, Cruz, Fiorina, et al only guarantees we are going to get Jeb Bush -VS- Hillary Clinton in 2016. Regardless of how much you despise the thought, it is written.
….”Expecting a different outcome is like standing at that soda machine that gives you diet ginger ale regardless of which button you push”…
The plan was broadly outlined in October of 2013. The details were filled in during thespring of 2014 – you were not paying attention. It’s too late for you to do anything to stop it.
The only thing left now is for you to do what Tom Donohue knows you will do: Select your candidate, believe it makes a difference, and then predictably you’ll get the CoC selection, Jeb Bush.
There is no substantive difference between Jeb and Hillary, and there is absolutely no difference between the current National GOP and National Democrats. Both parties are intent on the expansion of government, the diminishment of U.S. national interests (Main Street), along with the inflation of Wall Street interests (CoC) and capital markets (Koch Brothers).
Hillary is already affirmed as the Democrat candidate; However, Joe Biden would be ok too. The election to worry about is the GOP primary – those pesky conservatives.
Dividing/Fracturing the voting base is part of the strategy to get to Jeb as overall winner with 15% of the electorate. They have a really good plan. If a single candidate, based on geographic polling, could or would gain a larger single share than Jeb, another candidate would be added.
This is why Team Donohue (US CoC) placed wedges (Perry, Rubio, then Kasich, Pataki and Gilmore) within the larger electoral states (Texas, Florida, then later Ohio, New York and Virginia), the latter three being insurance policies purchased after June polling.
The “Fractured Voting Strategy” also means appealing to special interests along with the electoral mapping. Toward that end you get Huckabee and Santorum to divide the evangelical base away. All of these moves make smaller and smaller pieces of the pie.
Again, the goal is to insure any individual piece is smaller than Jeb, until the first several primary states are over. Just like Mitt Romney ’12, all controlled paths lead to Jeb ’16.
….”Just because the vending machine buttons say: Coke, Root Beer, Fanta, Sprite etc. doesn’t mean the slots inside the machine (which you can’t see) are loaded with anything other than diet ginger ale, or Jeb Bush”….
When you understand this, when you stop playing the role of co-dependent enabler; when you stop being willfully blind and recognize their plan; when you further accept the political parties within DC are two sides of the same coin; you begin to understand how difficult it would be to defeat the Tom Donohue/Mitch McConnell GOPe plan.
The U.S. Chamber of Commerce and the Koch Brothers have vested interests in the outcome – Full Details Here.
• Did the GOP secure the border with control of the White House and Congress? NO.
• Did the GOP balance the budget with control of the White House and Congress? NO.
• Who gave us the TSA? The GOP
• Who gave us the Patriot Act? The GOP
• Who expanded Medicare to include prescription drug coverage? The GOP
• Who created the precursor of “Common Core” in “Race To the Top”? The GOP
SCOTUS ? Justice Roberts (I remind you a GOP Presidential nominee, swooned upon by Jeb Bush) affirmed ObamaCare, not once, but twice. And guess what, his vote counted with the same weight as Justice Elena Kagen.
And also remember, the GOP, The National Republican Party, is under a federal Consent Decree – the RNC/GOP are legally barred from challenging any election results.
♦ Regarding Obamacare and the GOP:
• First, Medicaid, as a construct, is already single payer healthcare – the problem is the beneficiaries therein, by design, don’t necessarily pay into it.
• Second, ObamaCare if you will remember honestly, was created by Democrats, yes. However, After the election of Scott Brown (who became the 41st vote to block its passage) Obamacare was created by changing the Senate rules to strip an existing bill and use the process of “reconciliation”, a budgetary gimmick, to allow ObamaCare to be constructed with only 51 votes in the Senate – A simple majority. President Obama famously said numerous times “the electorate doesn’t care about the process, they care about the outcome“.
As a consequence, ask yourself: why didn’t the Senate use the EXACT SAME PROCESS(in reverse) when we gave them even larger majorities in the House (’10, ’12, ’14) and the Senate (’14) to eliminate it?
Why didn’t repeal legislation fly through the same single-party process to remove it, that created it? ObamaCare could be removed with the same exact process as it was created.
I know what you’re thinking – the GOP says President Obama would veto it, so the effort would be futile. So what?
We elected them to remove ObamaCare. DO IT, or at the very least TRY!
Wait, you said the GOP did try? BULLSHIT !! Try repeal without holding a divergent higher-standard for repeal than the original construct.
Oh, now you’re silent eh?
Why doesn’t Majority Leader Mitch McConnell hold the same level of severity, based on principle, as Majority Leader Harry Reid?
The answer is actually because McConnell and the GOP are quite ok with ObamaCare because the U.S. Chamber of Commerce (Tom Donohue) wanted it. The GOP doesn’t remove it, because the GOP gets a dual benefit. The benefit of its existence while simultaneously the benefit of saying they didn’t create it. Nice political gimmick eh?
But the argument, on behalf of the establishment, is to claim: “if the GOP was in control ObamaCare wouldn’t exist”.
♦ But really there’s more.
Not trying to be wonky, but it’s important to argue with fact:
Who cut the tax rates on lower margins by 50% thereby removing any tax liability from the bottom 20% wage earners? While simultaneously expanding the role of government dependency programs? The GOP (“Bush Tax Cuts”)
What? How dare you argue against tax cuts, you say.
Sorry, the reality is not what the GOP claim.
The “Bush Tax Cuts” removed tax liability from the bottom 20 to 40% of income earners completely. Leaving the entirety of tax burden on the upper 60% wage earners. Currently, thanks to those cuts, 49% of tax filers pay ZERO federal income tax.
But it’s worse. The “Bush Tax Cuts” were, in essence, created to stop the post 9/11/01 recession – and they contained a “sunset provision” which ended ten years later specifically because the tax cuts were unsustainable.
The expiration of the lower margin tax cuts then became an argument in the election cycle of 2012. And as usual, the GOP were insufferably inept during this process.
♦ The GOP (BUSH) removed tax liability from the lower income levels; and the DEM’s (President Obama) then lowered the income threshold for economic subsidy (welfare, food stamps, ebt, medicaid, etc).
This means lower tax revenues and increased pressure on the top tax rates with the increased demand for tax spending within the welfare programs.
Who gets screwed? WE DO !
PARADIGM SHIFT => Republicans focus on the “spending” without ever admitting they, not the Dem’s, lowered the revenue and set themselves up to be played within the increased need for spending, simultaneously.
The Republicans and Democrats created the economic and budgetary mess specifically because they didn’t let the (what was supposed to be temporary) tax rates sunset.
A conservative position would have been to leverage the sunset provision to get something fiscally responsible out of it, like a balanced budget, DUH. And if need be to walk away.
But why didn’t/wouldn’t this approach work? Why didn’t the GOP even attempt to leverage the pending expiration of the tax rates for fiscal responsibility?
The answer therein cuts to the heart of the problem with the GOP.
Think about this carefully.
The absolute best representative face the GOP can come up with to advance common sense principles of fiscal prudence is Mitch McConnell and John Boehner?
Really? I mean, REALLY?
Neither McConnell or Boehner can present themselves to a modern engaged, pop culture driven electorate, and simultaneously articulate a single principle or standard for the party, without sounding like that doddering fool down the road with the signs on his law forbidding anyone to dare touch the grass (McConnell); -OR- The washed up, profoundly creepy middle-aged drunk guy at the end of the bar hitting on your 20-year-old daughter?
Harsh? No, try reality. THAT is the face of the GOP.
THIS…… This is the face of the GOP? Mr. Mumbles and Sir Cry-a-lot? Good grief, no wonder Democrats are always grinning.
And, you wonder why we’re frustrated, desperate for a person who can actually articulate some kind of pushback? McConnell and Boehner are what you give us? SERIOUSLY?
Which leads to the next of your GOP talking points. You say:
“Politics is a game where you don’t get everything you want”
Fair enough. But considering we have been simply demanding common sense, ie. fiscal discipline, a F**KING BUDGET would be nice.
The last federal budget was passed in September of 2007, and EVERY FLIPPING INSUFFERABLE YEAR we have to go through the predictable fiasco of a Government Shutdown Standoff and/or a Debt Ceiling increase specifically because there is NO F**KING BUDGET!
That’s a strategy?
That’s your GOP strategy? Essentially: Lets plan for an annual battle against articulate Democrats and Presidential charm, using a creepy guy who cries and another old mumbling fool who dodders, knowing full well the MSM is on the side of the other guy to begin with?
THAT’S YOUR GOP STRATEGY?
Don’t tell me it’s not, because if it wasn’t there’d be something else being done – there isn’t.
Additionally, to put a fine-point on this “you-can’t-get-everything-you-want” aspect, name one thing that conservatives have gotten from delivering the House in ’10, and ’12, and ’14; and the Senate, to the GOP again, in ’14? How many Bills have been constructed, passed and forced upon Obama to sign or veto in the past year?
Oh yeah, ZERO. That’s the sum total of the GOP pushback?
Give.Me.A.Break !
Go sell your crazy someplace else because I’m full up to here with it.
Oh, and let’s not forget:
Who played the race card in Mississippi to re-elect Thad Cochran? The GOP
Who paid Democrats to vote in the Mississippi primary? The GOP
Who refused to support Ken Cuccinnelli in Virginia? The GOP
Who supported Charlie Crist? The GOP
Who supported Arlen Spector? The GOP
Who supported Bob Bennett? The GOP
Who worked against Marco Rubio? The GOP
Who worked against Rand Paul? The GOP
Who worked against Ted Cruz? The GOP
Who worked against Mike Lee? The GOP
Who worked against Jim DeMint? The GOP
Who worked against Ronald Reagan? The GOP
Who said “I think we are going to crush [the Tea Party] everywhere.”? The GOP (McConnell)
For the professional Republicans they don’t actually care if they win or lose.
If the hierarchy, the professional political class, within the republican party loses an election to Democrats it’s only a lost election; they are still there, and still comfortable even in the minority.
However, if the hierarchy within the republican party loses an election to Conservatives, they are out of a job.
Big Government Democrats and Republicans are the professional political class.
Wall Street, The CoC, et al win so long as they get either Hillary or Jeb. They’ll spend what ever blillions are needed to get the election to that end.
Conservatives are already viewed by Republicans as a third party. Why do we resist it so much?
Aw, you’re just tryin to cheer us up.
For some reason a search didn’t turn up the other thread with this title.
Mods, feel free to remove this if you feel it necessary.
To clarify things somewhat. The Democrats are socialist internationalists. The Republican leadership, while insisting they are “conservatives”, are actually multinational corporation internationalists. That is, they are wholly owned by their constituents, the Chamber of Commerce, which is led by multinational corporations with no loyalty to America at all.
In effect, the Republican leadership has once again become the “pro-slavery” Whigs, since “slavery is good for business”, despite the overwhelming majority of the rank and file who are ardent opponents of slavery.
So the only options remaining for the Republican rank and file is to either overthrow and expel the Whigs from the party; or to form another party and let the Republican party rapidly die off.
Fortunately the Tea Party is in for the long game, and has already eroded a lot of the worst Whig offenders. And while all conservatives agonize over how long this transition is taking, it is happening, and it may be inevitable.
In the last election, “The Empire Struck Back”, with the Whigs achieving some gains, but at tremendous cost, and also inserting fifth columnists who pretended conservatism until elected, before showing their true colors.
The effectiveness of the Tea Party can be seen in the large assortment of candidates for president in the Republican field. The conservative threat is so great, and so many Whigs so uncertain of their fate, that they are crowding in to the race, because the anointed candidate is so obviously weak.
The culling will be brutal. But the support for conservatives is strong, as is the unwillingness for the rank and file to tolerate Whigs, despite their pretensions to conservatism.
LOL, nice try.
Trump crashed and burned at the debates (yes the Fox hit job was in), but this article is trying to keep alive the ONE thing that supposedly propelled Trump to the front. That being, he’s the only one that can stop Jeb Bush.
Baloney. Jeb Bush had a horrific night on Thursday and it’s only a matter of time before the GOPe realizes they’ll have to dump it. That was happening with or without Trump on stage. Bush’s answers on immigration, PP Board, and common core all sucked. This guy doesn’t have the debating skills of Romney. And Bush keeps digging himself a whole. He was a nonfactor in that debate and forgettable.
Bush is not going to be the nominee whether Trump was in this race or not.
Given that, people need to jump off this Trump bandwagon and go support a real conservative that can win, like Cruz or Walker.
All of this is simple: America is dea. Trump thinks he has a plan to bring America back to life. What harm can he do? Walker flopped so I have moved on. I’ll support Trump for now and probably right through is election.
The purpose of the GOP in 2015 is not to represent conservatives, but to prevent them from power.
Unless many more districts do as mine did and throw weasels like Eric Cantor out, nothing will change.
Most of the elected Republicans are in fact Democrats in R jerseys.
For the Republic to survive, the GOP must die.
GOP-RIP
There is only one party in DC: The Federal Government.
Congresscritters, Senator and Representative alike, are employees of the Federal Government. They represent and serve the interests of that same Federal Government, since, by doing so, this increases their own power and opportunity.
The same is true of the Judicial and Executive branches.
Basically, we have little or no representation in DC.
And yet, the lemmings will vote, maybe begrudgingly, for whoever they elite tell us to vote for.
Conservative Treehouse hasn’t done their homework on the Koch Brothers.
Trying to tell me there is no difference while promoting the talking points of the left is weak.
The piece doesn’t even have to be smaller than Jeb. There are the superdelegates to rectify any embarrassments from the primaries.
That would make a good bumper sticker. I tell people now I belong to FUP, THE FED UP PARTY! I guess the fallback moniker would be The F***KED UP PARTY but my dad taught me not to talk like that.
This is the face of the GOP? Mr. Mumbles and Sir Cry-a-lot? Good grief, no wonder Democrats are always grinning.
How do you get to post more than 300 words???
and we know that the big banks and big corporations own the govt....everything is done FOR them....
given all that, I still want a respectful and honorable president...one that will hold his hand over his chest during the pledge of allegiance...one that won't diss America every chance he gets....
I don't give the GOP anything at all....
but I trust them a lot more than the evil leftist rat party....
THINK GLOBALLY AND WORK LOCALLY....that is what we should be doing....
claim the dog catcher roles, the school boards, the county commissioners, the state houses and the governorships.....that's where we begin...
Cruz on leadership corruption and sellout......
That Tuesday lunch began with our leadership saying, Were asking every Republican senator here, to affirmatively consent to lower the threshold for Harry Reid to take up the debt ceiling, from 60 votes to 50 votes. And we were told, everyone of you should agree for two reasons.
Number one, if we do this, it will happen, and hallelujah, hallelujah, thats what we want. We want trillions more in debt with no spending reforms, because were scared of this issue. We dont want to have a political fight on this.
But number two, if we do this, the Democrats will have the votes to do it on their own, which means all of us Republicans can vote no. And we can go home and tell our constituents, we opposed the thing we just consented to allow happen.
Now, I was sitting there to be honest, I hadnt gone to lunch intending to pick a fight, but as I listened to that, I was astonished and I raised my hand, and I said, Theres no universe in which I can consent to doing that. I spent two years campaigning across Texas, telling Texas, if you elect me, Ill fight with every breath in my body to stop the out of control spending and debt that are bankrupting our kids and grandkids.
If were to do that, I think it would be both dishonest and unfaithful to the men and women who elected me.
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This post is better because you posted the entire article. Thanks.
Sundance makes excellent comments. My question, what are we going to do about it? GOPe will crush a third party.
Maybe someone else could replace Trump, but so far they haven't shown much. Walker is roughly tied, or a hair behind Bush. He looked pretty weak in the debates, didn't he?
Excuse me?
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