Walnut Creek Police: Man built guns for murder-suicide that killed college student

KRON4.com ^ | 08/04/2015 | Sharon Song

[Farmer Dean]

So where did he get the receivers for the guns?Can’t buy those mail order.

[Steamburg]

You don’t have to be stupid to be crazy.

[going hot]

Did either one have a receiver per se or simply a chamber. Are there photos?

[2banana]

A semi smart person can easily build a gun from stock metal and a few machine tools...

[dontBSme]

You can buy partially milled receivers - often advertised as 80% finished - and then must finish milling and drilling.

[Farmer Dean]

Hadn’t considered those.I saw AR lowers 80% finished made of carbon fiber or polymer,wouldn’t bee too hard to finish with a dremel.

[Still Thinking]

Guns that people build themselves are not required to be registered, Walnut Creek police Lt. Lanny Edwards said. “As long as you possess it yourself and don’t sell it, it’s not illegal to have,” said Edwards.

Impressively accurate for a state actor, especially from the PRC, but still a tiny bit off. It's perfectly legal to sell guns you make, so long as you don't sell so many it looks like you're in the business of manufacture for sale.

Also, where did the guy get his receiver? If he bought it like the other parts, it would be subjects to NICS like a complete firearm would. This article makes it sound as if you can buy all the parts online and build a gun, circumventing the background check. I guess technically you could, but only under the same circumstances under which you could legally buy a complete firearm, and not at all in Kali, so very misleading.

[super7man]

I can build a very lethal close range .22 cal gun from a car antenna and a cloths pin in about 30 minutes.

[Myrddin]

You can buy a complete AR upper include BCA with no paperwork. Disconnect the gas tube to make it a bolt action, single shot. Fashion something to slap the firing pin. Done.

I hope this ass doesn't make it impossible to buy parts. That's how I build most of mine. I do the 4473 on the lowers.

[DirtyPigpen]

I saw a you tube where a guy used a flat bladed shovel to make an AK receiver. The killer seemed to be pretty mechanically inclined too.

[dontBSme]

I’ve seen a fair number of the 80% advertisements for metal 1911’s. Several were actually pretty decent.

[T-Bone Texan]

You don’t have to be crazy to be stupid.

[T-Bone Texan]

I remember the AK-from-shovel thread!

I lost the mystery of firearms a little. AKs: They’re so . . . primitive.

[Fiddlstix]

So where did he get the receivers for the guns?Can’t buy those mail order.

Very true. Then again what if he made what we called a "Zip Gun" in years gone by?
That's not difficult to do at all.

[Sooth2222]

The US gov’t is be happy to tell you exactly how to do this! Google “U.S. Army Improvised Munitions Handbook”. You can buy it on Amazon or download it for free.

[SWAMPSNIPER]

You can buy the unfinished forging or use laminated sheet stock.

[familyop]

"You don’t have to be stupid to be crazy."

That's true. It appears that although the young man was interested in hardware technologies, he hadn't developed much in the way of objective and analytical thought and behavior.

[marktwain]

Guns are made by individuals all the time. They first came into use in the 15th century.

Buy you know that.

Lots of people build guns. Simple ones are easy.

[SWAMPSNIPER]

We are dealing with people who can’t change a light bulb.