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Does Global Warming Actually Increase Antarctic Sea Ice?
Discovery News ^ | July 31, 2015 | BY PATRICK J. KIGER

Posted on 07/31/2015 2:28:06 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

People who insist that climate change isn’t happening often try to disprove it by pointing to what they see as contradictory phenomena. One of their most visually compelling arguments has centered upon Antarctic sea ice, which expanded to reach record levels in 2014. If the planet really is warming, they ask, then shouldn’t the ice in the southern ocean be melting?

But now, in a new, not-yet-published paper, James Hansen, former director of the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies, and colleagues push back even harder. They argue that the increase in Antarctic sea ice not only doesn’t refute climate change, but actually is caused by warming.

“Our climate model exposes amplifying feedbacks in the Southern Ocean that slow Antarctic bottom water formation and increase ocean temperature near ice shelf grounding lines, while cooling the surface ocean and increasing sea ice cover and water column stability,” the scientists argue in the abstract for the paper, which is undergoing review for publication in the journal Atmospheric Chemistry and Physics.

Here’s that scenario in simpler terms. While sea ice has been increasing, we know from analyzing satellite data that the ice covering the land mass of Antarctica has been melting rapidly.

Hansen told the Washington Post that the Antarctic ice expansion trend will continue, along with ice sheet melt. But that acceleration actually will be a sign that climate change is worsening.

“It will be clearer, give us a few more years,” Hansen told the Post.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.discovery.com ...


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1 posted on 07/31/2015 2:28:06 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

That is just like saying that killing unborn babies will save unborn babies. More heat equals more ice which equals more ice. I have to go feed my unicorn......


2 posted on 07/31/2015 2:30:54 PM PDT by shankbear (The tree of Liberty appears to be perishing because there are few patriots willing to refresh it.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Up is down, north is south, west is east..... It’s global warming People!


3 posted on 07/31/2015 2:31:59 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Buwahahahahahahahaha!*snort*Buwhahahahahahahahahaha!

*wipes tear from eye*

Yeah just like it snows more when it’s warmer.


4 posted on 07/31/2015 2:32:19 PM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '16)
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"It will be clearer, give us a few more years, GRANTS”
5 posted on 07/31/2015 2:33:20 PM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '16)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

That smell? Desperation on top of feces...


6 posted on 07/31/2015 2:33:59 PM PDT by piytar (Good will be called evil and Evil will be called good.)
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Does Global Warming Actually Increase Antarctic Sea Ice?

Is that the hysterical left's latest attempt at defending their Gore-BULL warming charade? lol!

7 posted on 07/31/2015 2:35:02 PM PDT by South40 (Rafael Edward Cruz 2016!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“the increase in Antarctic sea ice not only doesn’t refute climate change, but actually is caused by warming.”

....except when Antarctic ice is thinning or melting, which, of course, can only be caused by global warming.


8 posted on 07/31/2015 2:35:27 PM PDT by Optimist
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9 posted on 07/31/2015 2:35:46 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“the ability to believe that black is white, and more, to know that black is white, and to forget that one has ever believed the contrary”

“a loyal willingness to say that black is white when Party discipline demands”

Any form of thought alternative to the party’s construct is classified as “thoughtcrime”.


10 posted on 07/31/2015 2:38:25 PM PDT by digger48
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

No, but it actually destroys the few remaining functional brain cells of the America-hating, capitalism-hating leftist revolutionaries so it can’t be all bad.


11 posted on 07/31/2015 2:40:05 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

once again these idiots adjust the predictions to fit the pre-determined result.


12 posted on 07/31/2015 2:40:38 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (You can't spell Hillary without using the letters L, I, A, & R)
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“Yeah just like it snows more when it’s warmer.”

Well, when you have really cold temperatures (below zero type stuff) there isn’t enough moisture in the air for it to snow. Unless you meant more “warmer” as in 70 degrees.

It’s 95 here today - NASA has issued a blizzard warning.


13 posted on 07/31/2015 2:40:42 PM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts It is happening again.)
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To: Optimist

“the increase in Antarctic sea ice not only doesn’t refute climate change, but actually is caused by warming.”

....except when Antarctic ice is thinning or melting, which, of course, can only be caused by global warming


Bingo. Climate Change is non-falsifiable. Everything is climate change.


14 posted on 07/31/2015 2:42:24 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The thing is, a few years ago, they were screaming that their models would lead to LESS Antarctic ice. They did NOT predict MORE ice. Change it up as you go along. Really lends credibility, don’t you think?


15 posted on 07/31/2015 2:42:55 PM PDT by fhayek
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Yes, it’s very simple: The warmer the planet gets, the colder it gets.


16 posted on 07/31/2015 2:43:26 PM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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OK!! Everybody pay attention!

Lesson for today:

1. The sun is 1,300,000 times as big as the earth.

2. The sun is a ball of fire that controls the climates of all its planets.

3. The earth is one of the sun’s planets.

4. The earth is a speck in comparison to the size of the sun.

5. Inhabitants of the earth are less than specks.

Study Question: How do less-than-specks in congress plan to control the sun?


17 posted on 07/31/2015 2:44:44 PM PDT by abclily
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it is simple

cold air sinks under an incoming air flow

the south pole is at the bottom where the cold air collects increasing the ice formation

duh!


18 posted on 07/31/2015 2:46:16 PM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... No peace? then no peace!)
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Earth heading for 'mini ice age' in just 15 years, scientists say
UPI ^ | Updated July 11, 2015 | Doug G. Ware

Solar scientists predict that the Earth will enter a "mini ice age" around 2030 due to decreased activity by the sun, which will bring with it frigid cold winters. The last time the Earth experienced a similar situation occurred between 1645 and 1715.

(Excerpt) Read more at upi.com ...

19 posted on 07/31/2015 2:47:05 PM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Lesson for today:

1: Atmosphere has just 0.04% CO2 in it

2: Man creates just 3.4% of that 0.04% (The rest is natural)

3: Therefore, the atmosphere has just 0.00137% CO2 produced by man (3.4% of 0.04% = 0.00137%)

4: The silly idea that 0.00137% CO2 in the atmosphere can cause ANY change to our climate globally is LAUGHABLE!

Study Question: How can 0.00137% of our atmosphere possibly capture enough escaping heat, and then back radiate a fraction of that, in large enough quantities, towards earth, to cause climate change?

Bonus Points: IF CO2 causes climate change, then hy is it that CO2 ONLY rises AFTER many decades of climate change?

Bonus Question 2: IF CO2 causes climate change, why has there been ZERO climate change for 2 decades now despite more CO2 I nthe atmosphere each successive year during those 2 decades?

Bonus Question 3: Why are ‘man-caused climate change’ LIARS allowed to open their LYING mouths in public?

Bonus FACT: ‘man-caused climate change’ LIARS claim we are reaching record high ppm of CO2 In the atmosphere because of man, and that it ‘can’t possibly get that high naturally- therefore man is to blame’- yet these LIARS ignore their own findings that show that ppm were much higher thousands of years ago (if you believe in long earth ages)


20 posted on 07/31/2015 2:48:18 PM PDT by Bob434
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