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Samuel DuBose: body-camera video shows 360-degree view of police killing
The Guardian ^ | July 31, 2015 | The Guardian

Posted on 07/31/2015 7:03:21 AM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative

A synced-up video of body camera footage from three University of Cincinnati police officers – Ray Tensing, Phillip Kidd and David Lindenschimdt – reveals the dramatic aftermath of the police shooting of a 43-year-old unarmed black man.

It shows that both officers were behind Tensing at the time he shot DuBose, but both backed claims the officer had been 'dragged'. These claims were used to justify the shooting, but were later dismissed as false by the county prosecutor who charged Tensing with murder. Kidd and Lindenschimdt have also been placed on leave

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abuseofpower; bodycamera; cincinnati; donutwatch; dubose; leo; ohio; samueldebose
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To: miss marmelstein

The point. You missed it.


141 posted on 07/31/2015 1:05:48 PM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (Pres CTRL + ALT + DELETE to unlock this tagline.)
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To: Half Vast Conspiracy

Sarcasm is pretty hard to read on the internet.


142 posted on 07/31/2015 1:07:26 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: I'd like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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To: Prince of Space
Hey, here’s a novel idea. Just do what the cop tells you and you won’t get shot.

Well, no. Especially if there are several of them telling you to do contradictory things.

And of course police are suppose to have limits on what they can tell you to do. I am sure you support that.

143 posted on 07/31/2015 1:10:32 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: Mr Apple

Tensing should loose his job and that is about it. He made a mistake around a drunk uncooperative hooligan.


144 posted on 07/31/2015 1:11:35 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: DoodleDawg

A high speed chase of a drunkard is not an option, is it?


145 posted on 07/31/2015 1:13:43 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va
A high speed chase of a drunkard is not an option, is it?

What is your source for saying he was drunk? I haven't seen any. Another poster on this thread hasn't found anything. If you have a source, I'd love to see it.

Thanks

146 posted on 07/31/2015 1:16:50 PM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (Sheep need leaders. Politicians work for US.)
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To: Forgotten Amendments

Have you seen the video?


147 posted on 07/31/2015 1:24:57 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va
A high speed chase of a drunkard is not an option, is it?

I guess not. Not when you can shoot them instead.

148 posted on 07/31/2015 1:27:23 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg
Bottom line: If the dipstick had just listened to clear specific directions given to him he would be alive right now..

Nothing to see here. Move along.

149 posted on 07/31/2015 1:38:39 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: MeganC

The cop would have been insane had he not had his weapon ready. After all, Dubose was moving and reaching all around the car, he was unwilling to show a DL, he had alcohol in the car AND, his speech sounded impaired. I am sure any LEO in that situation would have been prepared. As far as I am concerned, the cop had justifiable cause to fear for his life.


150 posted on 07/31/2015 1:38:49 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: central_va
Have you seen the video?

Just as I thought.

Officer Tensing was dragged

Dubose tried to run him over

Dubose reached for a gun

Dubose grabbed Officer Tensing

Dubose had an empty bottle of gin

Dubose was drunk

Can't wait to read what you guys invent tomorrow.

151 posted on 07/31/2015 2:01:37 PM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (Sheep need leaders. Politicians work for US.)
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To: Forgotten Amendments

Hey you don’t listen to cops then who knows what will happen to you. They make mistakes, it is like the dentist that says “hold still for me”. And you don’t. There goes your tooth.


152 posted on 07/31/2015 2:04:42 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

No one would be dead if the other dipstick hadn’t used deadly force when there was no justification to do so.


153 posted on 07/31/2015 2:26:22 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

If I have to pick a side: A lucid polite cop and a drunk loser, the choice is not hard.


154 posted on 07/31/2015 2:29:32 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

“IMO this is this only thing that may trip up Tensing. As far as I’m concerned, his allegedly falsifying the police report may be his only downfall.”

You are missing the point that Tensing’s “alleged” falsification of the police report involved falsifying the reason he shot DuBose. By definition, unless Tensing had a valid justification for shooting DuBose, the shooting was murder. So, your contention is that, even though Tensing lied about his justification for shooting DuBose, he was nevertheless justified, for some other reason that he.....forgot to mention in the police report? Good luck with that.


155 posted on 07/31/2015 2:31:45 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: central_va
If I have to pick a side: A lucid polite cop and a drunk loser, the choice is not hard.

How about the side of "rule of law," in which police officers do not go around shooting people--yes, even drunk losers--without any legal justification for doing so?

There is no need to "pick a side" between the officer and the driver. "The driver was a drunk uncooperative idiot" and "The officer committed murder by killing the driver with no legal justification for the use of deadly force" are not mutually exclusive statements. One does not need to take the side of the victim in order to defend the rule of law.

156 posted on 07/31/2015 2:36:58 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Conscience of a Conservative
You missed the rest of my very short point....

 

If in fact those false report allegations are true.

 

Just who is saying Tensing lied? Not me. Certainly doubt Tensing himself is saying he lied. Did he lie? The Black Lives Matter crowd is sure of it. I guess you are too.

157 posted on 07/31/2015 2:51:20 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (With Great Freedom comes Great Responsibility)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Nah, I'm just using your logic from earlier in the thread. You seemed to think that my statement that

If anything put Tensing in danger here, it was Tensing himself.

was some kind of admission that Tensing's life was in danger. So, which is it? Do conditional "if" statements count or not?

Just one more example of your goalpost-moving anything-to-justify-the-shooting attitude in these threads, I guess.

I'm done with you. Good night.

158 posted on 07/31/2015 3:01:08 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: central_va
Bottom line: If the dipstick had just listened to clear specific directions given to him he would be alive right now..

And if the cop hadn't screwed up and shot him then he wouldn't be out on bail for a murder indictment.

159 posted on 07/31/2015 3:16:46 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

Murder is a ridiculous charge. He walks then. Unintentional manslaughter at he most.


160 posted on 07/31/2015 3:32:52 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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