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Exclusive: Trump threatens third-party run
The Hill ^ | July 23, 2015 | Kevin Cirilli and Bob Cusack

Posted on 07/23/2015 3:57:44 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

NEW YORK — Donald Trump says the chances that he will launch a third-party White House run will “absolutely” increase if the Republican National Committee is unfair to him during the 2016 primary season.

“The RNC has not been supportive. They were always supportive when I was a contributor. I was their fair-haired boy,” the business mogul told The Hill in a 40-minute interview from his Manhattan office at Trump Tower on Wednesday. “The RNC has been, I think, very foolish.”

Pressed on whether he would run as a third-party candidate if he fails to clinch the GOP nomination, Trump said that “so many people want me to, if I don’t win.”

“I’ll have to see how I’m being treated by the Republicans,” Trump said. “Absolutely, if they’re not fair, that would be a factor.”

RNC Chairman Reince Priebus called Trump earlier this month asking him to tone down his controversial rhetoric. More recently, the RNC rebuked him for saying that Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) is not a war hero. Trump didn’t apologize but has since said that the 2008 Republican presidential nominee is a war hero.

Trump told The Hill that the GOP establishment in Washington dislikes him because he’s not part of the political class.

“I’m not in the gang. I’m not in the group where the group does whatever it’s supposed to do,” he said. “I want to do what’s right for the country — not what’s good for special interest groups that contribute, not what’s good for the lobbyists and the donors.”

The real estate magnate has upended the Republican presidential primary, with recent national polls showing that he is leading the 16-candidate field. Many in the party’s establishment, pointing to his inflammatory comments about Mexican immigrants and McCain, say that Trump is badly hurting the GOP brand.

Yet he is connecting with a significant chunk of GOP voters. And despite criticism from party leaders and other presidential candidates, Trump appears fueled by controversy.

His office, which has a stunning view of Central Park, is filled with family photos, golf trophies and sports paraphernalia.

At various times during the interview, Trump pointed out that he isn’t a politician. But the reality TV personality has politician-like skills, answering questions he wants to answer and driving the conversation to where he wants to take it. Trump doesn’t shy away from eye contact, and while prone to complaining about reporters, he is comfortable in his own skin.

The 69-year-old, of course, is no stranger to the media, and on Wednesday he complimented his questioners while also urging them — on more than one occasion — “to be fair.”

He insisted that his remarks about McCain and immigration have not and will not hurt him, and pointed to several recent polls to make his point.

Not surprisingly, Trump is a big fan of polls now.

At one point, he whipped out a survey that he had inside his suit pocket, and later he called on an aide to print out the latest poll numbers showing him leading former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush (R).

“I’m surprised that I’m this high,” he said.

Unlike former Rep. Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.) four years ago, Trump is not predicting victory. He won’t utter the former Speaker’s famous “I’m going to be the nominee” statement, saying that would be “presumptuous.”

He attributes his rise to being frank with voters.

“I’m not surrounded by all sorts of pollsters and PR people,” Trump said. “I speak the truth. Our country is in big trouble, and I know how to turn it around.”

“Competence” and “leadership” are what voters are looking for, he says.

While some of his Republican rivals, such as Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, must do well in Iowa, and others are looking to New Hampshire, including Bush, Trump doesn’t see his path to victory as state-specific. And he was tight-lipped on how he’s preparing for the Aug. 6 Fox News debate, which will only allow for the top 10 candidates by poll standing to appear on the stage.

“I’ve got a lot of knowledge having to do with government. For the debates, I’ll work on that,” he said. “As far as the debate is concerned, these politicians debate every night. That’s all they do is talk. I don’t do that. I do other things. I’m a job creator.”

He said he’d appoint judges to the Supreme Court with a “conservative bent,” praising Justice Samuel Alito and criticizing Chief Justice John Roberts.

“Jeb Bush was the one that pushed Roberts through his brother, and Roberts gave us ObamaCare,” Trump said. “Roberts was a terrible choice. We wouldn’t be talking about ObamaCare right now if we didn’t have Roberts.”

He spoke favorably of setting term limits in Congress without offering specifics and didn’t rule out endorsing congressional candidates in 2016. Trump did not show his hand on whether he might endorse a primary challenger to McCain, who has one such competitor in his Arizona race.

Trump said he agreed with Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) in opposing President Obama’s trade policy.

“You know the funniest thing about Bernie Sanders? The one thing we agree on is trade,” the billionaire said with a smile. “He knows the country is ripped off. And I know the country is being ripped off. The difference is that I can do something about it and he can’t. He’ll never be able to negotiate with China.”

Trump said that despite his tough talk about China, he’d be able to have a working relationship with its leaders. To accentuate his point, Trump brought The Hill six floors down to note that the Industrial and Commercial Bank of China rents space in his building.

“They just renewed their lease and you know why? They love Trump,” he said.

He said that Sanders is a sort of “duplicate” of liberal favorite Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), who he said has pushed Hillary Clinton, the Democratic front-runner for 2016, to the left.

“She’s had a huge impact on Clinton,” Trump said. “Hillary is going way left, and I sort of laugh because I know Hillary very well. ... The interesting part about Hillary is that her donors are all the hedge fund guys and the business guys and the real estate guys. And they’re all saying, ‘Do you think she means it?’ And I say, ‘Of course she doesn’t mean it — you know her.’ ”

Trump has long said he loves his job of striking deals and making money. But now that job is on hold as he attempts to become the 45th president.

Trump says he’s enjoying running for commander in chief, though he knows it’s early in the game.

“It’s very hard for a very successful person to run for political office — especially for president,” he said, after asking for business cards. “I get that now more than anything.”


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To: skippyjonjones

Yes. Hope springs eternal... then reality.

But he does make things entertaining. In that, he has some value.


181 posted on 07/23/2015 12:26:29 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Liberalism is the poison ivy that infests the garden of society.)
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To: randita

Trump has never hung out at the Democratic National Convention, as he has the Republican National Convention, since about 1988.

As for as party labels, can you detect any difference from democrats in the likes of Boehner, McConnell, and most of the Republican caucus? They all ran as conservatives.

Prior to last November, I would be right with you. Now, if Trump runs 3rd party, which I don’t think he will have to, I will vote 3rd party, or stay home. Again, before last November, I would never have believed I would ever say that.
Any other candidate will be a Rove RINO. Karl Rove and all the other RINOs literally despise Trump. To me, that is a significant compass point on who is for America. And, with immigration, this is our last shot. I thought a Republican takeover last November would resolve some issues. It did not.


182 posted on 07/23/2015 12:45:11 PM PDT by odawg
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To: Ohioan; AuH2ORepublican; Cincinatus' Wife

Third party is not an option. Anti-dem vote splits and the dem wins, period. Trump couldn’t win a race as an “I” unless the Republican dropped out, if even then.

Hiram Johnson and William Borah were leftist scumbags by the way.


183 posted on 07/23/2015 1:08:22 PM PDT by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Two days ago he vowed he would only run as a republican.


184 posted on 07/23/2015 1:11:26 PM PDT by WayneS (Yeah, it's probably sarcasm...)
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To: Impy
Hiram Johnson & William Borah were Republican Liberals, but they had the guts to stand up to the Internationalists in 1919, when Wilson was pushing the League of Nations. So in the context that I referred to, they were among the 15 good guys.

Given Obama's hatred of the American tradition, and his repeated efforts to undermine our position in the world; it would be nice if there were some Senators, today, other than Ted Cruz, and Mike Lee, and a couple of others, who had the gumption of the Republican irreconcilables who had the courage to join the Conservative Democrat, Jim Reed, who was the first Senator to openly denounce Wilson's League.

185 posted on 07/23/2015 1:25:25 PM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Smart move on Trump’s part, he is warning to the rinos, “don’t mess with me, I will bring your house down and take your voters if I go” Brilliant!

Trump is in this to win and he intends to win the republican nomination.

If Jeb gets the nomination, I hope trump takes Cruz and they form a third party and finish off the rino party. Get Sessions and Palin to come on board too.


188 posted on 07/23/2015 2:37:48 PM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: sf4dubya

LOL! No worries! :-)


189 posted on 07/23/2015 2:45:08 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Liberalism is the poison ivy that infests the garden of society.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"'I was their fair-haired boy,'...'I’m not in the gang. I’m not in the group where the group does whatever it’s supposed to do,'...'I’m surprised that I’m this high,'" --Donald Trump

Well, isn't that special. Some people are arguing for a Trump/Cruz third party ticket now, but it will never work.


191 posted on 07/23/2015 3:27:13 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: sf4dubya
"Clinton/Trump hook, line, and sinker."

"http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/07/21/today-in-politics-clinton-weighs-using-trump-against-his-party/?_r=0"


Yes. Apparently, that's been a plan for a long time, but many have caught on.


July 22, 2015 - Clinton In Trouble In Colorado, Iowa, Virginia, Quinnipiac University Swing State Poll Finds; Trump's Negatives Are Almost 2-1
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3315376/posts

Morning Joe panel reacts to 'stunning' unpopularity of Clinton in swing states (MSM people shocked and dismayed about Clinton and Trump numbers)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXi1hli3SIE


"Asked of leaned Republicans" ("registered Republicans and Republican-leaning independents" according to the associated article) refers to questions 11 through 13. Looks like a plan in motion for many no-votes from Republicans and to pave the way for Hillary.

Washington Post-ABC News poll, July 16-19, 2015
http://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/page/politics/washington-post-abc-news-poll-july-16-19-2015/1778/

Q: If Donald Trump wins the Republican nomination for
president would you definitely vote for him in the general election for president in 2016, would you consider voting for him or would you definitely not vote for him?

Definitely would vote for

14

Would consider voting for

20

Definitely would NOT vote for

62

No opinion

4


192 posted on 07/23/2015 3:36:44 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: CatherineofAragon

I believe the media, who tear down Trump at every turn, do so with a purpose. The liberal media knows each time they attack a GOP candidate it endears them to conservatives. The media is the third leg of Trumps campaign and they are manipulating the Republican primaries to annoint Trump as the candidate. I wonder why.


193 posted on 07/23/2015 4:03:52 PM PDT by z taxman
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To: ScottinVA; Ann Archy
"BINGO!! Hello, President Hillary!"

"Unfortunately, the Trumpettes are OK with that."

Yes, because there are many political folks with incomes from government funding, and they speak to both political parties on various discussion boards.

Heavy Hitters: Top All-Time Donors, 1989-2014
http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/list.php
American Fedn of State, County & Municipal Employees $60,949,129 [Democrat] 81% [Republican] 1%”

Leviathan (Uncle Sam employs more people than you think)
National Review ^ | 02/03/2011 | Iain Murray
"...nearly 40 million Americans employed in some way by government."


Scott Walker is the only candidate with an actual record of cutting much government funding, and many are starting to see the situation for what it is.


196 posted on 07/23/2015 4:20:24 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Longbow1969

You guys can do better.

“Oh, what a bunch of nonsense. No matter what happens he can say the RNC and other candidates didn’t treat him well.”

If we don’t agree with him, he gets no support as Third Party. That could be the case if Cruz gets the nomination and Trump still runs as Third Party.

“Anyone can say that. He just told a radio host the other day that he would not run as anything but a Republican. Now we are back to the 3rd party stuff.”

Did he HURT YOUR FEELINGS? How do you think we, THE BASE, feels when you guys keep running people that ‘claim’ to be conservative and then IMMEDIATELY vote as RINOs once in office. Kind of hurts a bit...doesn’t it.

“Trump is a con artist. He is conning you, and making a fool out of a lot of conservatives. He will say ANYTHING that is necessary to get his way at any particular moment in time. Everything he says is fluid and he “evolves” on issues more than Obama by far.”

I’ll make that judgment. In the meantime, how about you sift through my 18,000 posts here and tell me when I’ve been snookered.

“If he runs 3rd party and siphons off a few % of right of center votes, which is all he would get, and hands the keys to the White House to Hillary he would be sealing ALL of our fates.”

Perot got 19% and didn’t act conservative in the least...but the REPUBLICAN BASE did not like being treated like dirt by Bush-41. If Trump runs as Third Party, the only thing, for sure, is that the Republican loses (you need to tell your boss that) - as to who wins, that will either be Hillary, or Trump - but it will NOT be Jeb, Rubio, Walker, or any other OPEN BORDERS Republican - Trump has the power to stop that. Even you appear to agree with that.

So the question for your boss is whether he’d be happier with Hillary winning or Trump winning - as it will be one or the other.


197 posted on 07/23/2015 4:30:09 PM PDT by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my 'about' page))
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Wow. There are quite a few concern troll comments in favor of Hillary. The facial expressions and voice tones of such people finding out about her certain loss yesterday were hilarious.


198 posted on 07/23/2015 4:33:42 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Longbow1969

If Trump STOPS talking conservative values, then I stop supporting him.

If other Republicans (Cruz excepted) START talking conservative values, then I might consider supporting them. Right now they seem MUCH MORE INTENT on attacking Trump and supporting Open Borders...it will not end well for them.

So my advice to your boss - PLEASE, please tell him it’s not Rush Limbaugh calling his office non-stop - in fact, its been 20 years since Rush told his listeners to light up the phones (and that was over Clinton’s tax increase). No, it’s the people that your guys call CRAZIES that are upset about Open Borders, and we can and will sink your boss and any other Open Borders Republican.

We tried it your way for 2008 and 2012...now it’s our turn, and Trump’s polling shows it.


199 posted on 07/23/2015 4:35:06 PM PDT by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my 'about' page))
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To: jimbo123

Wait just one minute here...

I though certain people on FR talked about Donald being tough and not flip flopping?

I thought people told us on here that Donald was tough...but while right on this issue, he is whining.

I also heard CHEERS on here yesterday when he said he wouldn’t run third party...

He flip flopped already? Interesting...


200 posted on 07/23/2015 4:35:43 PM PDT by TNMOUTH
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