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The ‘Other Country’ Fallacy
welikeshooting.com ^ | 7/17/2015 | Savage One

Posted on 07/19/2015 8:03:59 AM PDT by rktman

Whenever an argument comes up for gun control, the United Kingdom and Australia are brought forth as examples where gun control ‘worked’. “Australia and the UK banned a lot of guns and instituted strict gun control and their gun crime went down, so if other countries besides the US can ‘make gun control work’ we should follow their example here”. There are a number of fallacies and biases that this line of reasoning adheres to; correlation = causation, , single cause fallacy, the ‘bandwagon’ fallacy or ‘appeal to popularity, and confirmation bias through functional fixation, otherwise known as technological determinism or genetic fallacy.

Dealing with this concept from the ground up, the starting premise is that correlation proves causation. “Guns were banned/restricted in the UK and Australia, therefore gun related crime went down.”:

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TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: 2a; 2ndamendment; australia; banglist; guncontrol; othercountries; secondamendment; unitedkingdom
Just tossin' this out there. Will the scotsman weigh in? :>}
1 posted on 07/19/2015 8:03:59 AM PDT by rktman
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The US has lost its way and been on a downhill slide since our elected officials stopped doing what was best for the USA and began trying to emulate other, less free, less successful nanny state countries.


2 posted on 07/19/2015 8:38:17 AM PDT by Iron Munro (We may be paranoid but that doesn't mean they aren't really after us)
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Crime rates increase/decrease in direct proportion to the overall Negro population.


3 posted on 07/19/2015 8:57:49 AM PDT by Beagle8U
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To: rktman
If you think civilian disarmament will decrease violence in the US, well

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4 posted on 07/19/2015 9:01:40 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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With somewhere above 300 million firearms in this country, it’s a fools errand to think Americans could be disarmed.

The British tried that in the late 1700’s, didn’t work out well for them.


5 posted on 07/19/2015 9:47:03 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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What the hell is he talking about???

Crime in those countries WENT UP 44% after the guns of the law-abiding were confiscated.

CHECK THE FACTS—YOU IDIOT!!


6 posted on 07/19/2015 9:52:48 AM PDT by Flintlock (Our soapbox is gone, the ballot box stolen--we're left with the bullet box now.)
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Crime in those countries WENT UP 44% after the guns of the law-abiding were confiscated.

They're very careful to only talk about gun crime. That you'll be more likely to be the victim of knives, clubs, or fists once all the guns are gone is carefully avoided.

7 posted on 07/19/2015 9:57:53 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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Crime in those countries WENT UP 44% after the guns of the law-abiding were confiscated.

Crime went up, yes. But gun-related crime went down, and that's what's important here!
8 posted on 07/19/2015 12:30:41 PM PDT by Svartalfiar
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A patriot’s answer would be that nothing done in inferior foreign countries should be emulated.


9 posted on 07/21/2015 5:12:59 PM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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If I wanted to live in one of those countries, I would move there.


10 posted on 07/21/2015 5:17:04 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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