Posted on 07/18/2015 4:24:11 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
John McCain's betrayals Exposed By Vietnam Vets And POWs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hr37eE0nO8&feature=youtu.be
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Your information has made my day!
When will the PC politicians wake up?
It's all to easy to pile on, instead of actually listening to every word that Mr. Trump actually said, inelegant as it may have been, thanks to Luntz interruptions.
All of Mr. Trump's enemies think this is his doom's day. Time will tell.
Go to fox news site on F B. Article is 3 or 4 down (You might want to privately ask others to join you.) comments are pro trump —stronger than even on congressman’s page
This was phenomenal. Thanks for sharing.
Does this need its own thread?
The True Military Record of John McCain Written by an Active Marine
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THE TRUE MILITARY RECORD OF JOHN MCCAIN WRITTEN BY AN ACTIVE MARINE.
9/03/08
McCain has never really earned anything. He is from a wealth pampered background and not fit to lead this nation.
A “war hero” doesn’t finished 894th out of 899 and still get stationed at a Navy champagne unit and promoted ahead of all but two of his 898 other classmates.
A “war hero” doesn’t crash three U.S. Navy jets out of sheer incompetence and ineptitude, including two during non-combat training sessions.
A “war hero” doesn’t get written up on drunk-and-disorderly, fraternization, disobeying orders, and insubordination charges more than two dozen times in less than three years.
A “war hero” doesn’t get promoted to squadron commander of the air field named after his own grandfather immediately after crashing his third airplane. A “war hero” doesn’t have all the military records that cover his time in Vietnam and all disciplinary actions against him censored and sealed “as a matte r of national security.” A “war hero” doesn’t get 28 medals awarded all after-the-fact “for bravery” for no other reason than being shot down and captured and then go on a celebrity public relations tour because he’s the son of two acclaimed Navy admirals. A “war hero” doesn’t repeatedly cheat on the wife who’s back in the states waiting for him, and then cheat on her more when he returns to the states, and then divorce and abandon her.
A “war hero” doesn’t systematically vote against every single pay and benefit increase for military and veterans throughout his entire political career, all the while claiming to be “the soldier’s Congressman,” and then take credit for the passage of a G.I. benefits bill he that voted AGAINST. A “war hero” McCain III lost jet number one in 1958 when he plunged into Corpus Christi Bay while practicing landings. He was knocked unconscious by the impact coming to as the plane settled to the bottom. McCain’s second crash occurred while he was deployed in the Mediterranean. “Flying too low over the Iberian Peninsula,” Timberg wrote, “he took out some power lines [reminiscent of the 1998 incident in which a Marine Corps jet sliced through the cables of a gondola at an Italian ski resort, killing 20] which led to a spate of newspaper stories in which he was predictably identified as the son of an admiral.”
McCain’s third crash three occurred when he was returning from flying a Navy trainer solo to Philadelphia for an Army-Navy football game. Timberg reported that McCain radioed, “I’ve got a flameout” and went through standard relight procedures three times before ejecting at one thousand feet. McCain landed on a deserted beach moments before the plane slammed into a clump of trees. McCain’s fifth loss happened during his 23rd mission over North Vietnam on Oct. 26, 1967, when McCain’s A-4 Skyhawk was shot down by a surface-to-air missile. McCain ejected from the plane breaking both arms an d a leg in the process and subsequently parachuted into Truc Bach Lake near Hanoi. For 23 combat missions (an estimated 20 hours over enemy territory), the U.S. Navy awarded McCain a Silver Star, a Legion of Merit for Valor, a Distinguished Flying Cross, three Bronze Stars, two Commendation medals plus two Purple Hearts and a dozen service medals. “McCain had roughly 20 hours in combat,” explains Bill Bell, a veteran of Vietnam and former chief of the U.S. Office for POW/MIA Affairs — the first official U.S. representative in Vietnam since the 1973 fall of Saigon. “Since McCain got 28 medals,” Bell continues, “that equals out to about a medal-and-a-half for each hour he spent in combat. There were infantry guys — grunts on the ground — who had more than 7,000 hours in combat and I can tell you that there were times and situations where I’m sure a prison cell would have looked pretty good to them by comparison
The question really is how many guys got that number of medals for not being shot down.” For years, McCain has been an unchecked master at manipulating an overly friendly and biased news media. The former POW turned Congressman, turned U.S. Senator, has managed to gloss over his failures as a pilot by exaggerating his military service and lying about his feats of heroism. McCain has sprouted a halo and wings to become America’s POW-hero presidential candidate.
This article was written by an active, unnamed Marine. It was published by Gale Toensing founder of the Corner Report.com and she sent it to me. It is a true account of McCain’s real war record and evidence of his lack of fitness for the office of President.
I told you he graduated 5th from the bottom of ‘58 the Great.
Article seems to be on track
Yep.
Found it in the FOx news comments. Have dropped a few other places
BTTT
So that's the current 'official' story? I see that's the version the History Channel has picked up. Others (including, I understand, the official navy report) have said it was White's plane, not McCain's, that was hit.
Of course, given that the Navy originally discredited his story of engine failure on the football weekend crash, and then had to 'revise' the report to basically 'we couldn't find anything broken, so something unknown had to have broken', changes in the story shouldn't be a surprise.
Correct it was White’s plane, which was adjacent. Memory’s a bit off. Upon further checking, the Zuni went off due to a stray voltage (could be static). This would not have happened if the safety pin was removed. These have the red flags and when in place they break the circuit used for dropping/launching ordnance. The pin is only to be removed when the plane is on the cat, however sometimes in windy condition the pins fall out due to the flags. So the pins sometimes are removed ahead of time. A shortcut out of convenience which proved disastrous. I work in refineries where it is always told no shortcuts. There were a chain of events that made things progressively worse.
I am professionally familiar with safety incident studies, having dealt with Piper Alpha and BP Texas City.
The three other aircraft losses - McCain owns those.
Thanks Jim you beat me to it, I was going to post this when I got home, but I know it means more to FReepers with you posting it.
Let the truth ring and the scuzzy little things that do their work in the dark scatter ....Go Donald go...keep speaking the truth.
http://conservativebyte.com/2015/07/fact-checking-the-trump-mccain-fight/
http://original.antiwar.com/giraldi/2013/05/29/john-mccain-war-hero-or-something-less/
http://polidics.com/ethics/fellow-pows-say-john-mccain-was-a-coward-and-a-traitor-in-viet-nam.html
http://www.vvof.org/mccain_hides.htm
http://antiwar.com/blog/2008/09/27/mccain-betrayed-viet-pows/
http://takimag.com/article/judas_mccain_guy_somerset/print#axzz3gOCRtr7x
Rick Perry is taking a beating on his FB page also for coming out against Trump. Lovin it...rinos dropping like turds.
Think Ill check it out. Any new ammo?
Here's the context and reference in italics to Admiral Stockdale in his own words:
Admiral (then a USN Captain) Stockdale and all other POWs inside the HH confirmed the only way to come home early was if Admiral Stockdale granted permission; there was no other way around it. There were very few releasees. One was a Seaman Apprentice named Douglas Hegdahl III who had spent night and day memorizing the names of 256 aviators into a rhyme and jingle. He was ordered to be an early release because he had those names to pass on to his debriefer when he got home.
McCain was never ordered to early release although the enemy offered it to him. He refused because of the standing order given by his POW Commanding Officer James Stockdale. Many have construed this refusal as of his own volition. He did obey the order and the consequence of not obeying the order was well-described by Congressman Dornan.
From Admiral Stockdale's book p.254:
There was little concern in any American's mind about the possibility of the Vietnamese throwing anybody out to defame him; we now knew the Vietnamese well enough to be sure that any early releasee would have to buy his way out by groveling on his knees before the Communists, bad-mouthing America. I gave their new release program a name: FRP -- the "Fink Release Program," and that was the way it was to be known. I also issued an order that started on its way to the other cell blocks of Las Vegas and with subsequent movers to the camps elsewhere in the city and outside it: "No early release; we all go home together".
Here's the context and reference in italics to Admiral Stockdale in his own words:
Admiral (then a USN Captain) Stockdale and all other POWs inside the HH confirmed the only way to come home early was if Admiral Stockdale granted permission; there was no other way around it. There were very few releasees. One was a Seaman Apprentice named Douglas Hegdahl III who had spent night and day memorizing the names of 256 aviators into a rhyme and jingle. He was ordered to be an early release because he had those names to pass on to his debriefer when he got home.
McCain was never ordered to early release although the enemy offered it to him. He refused because of the standing order given by his POW Commanding Officer James Stockdale. Many have construed this refusal as of his own volition. He did obey the order and the consequence of not obeying the order was well-described by Congressman Dornan.
From Admiral Stockdale's book p.254:
There was little concern in any American's mind about the possibility of the Vietnamese throwing anybody out to defame him; we now knew the Vietnamese well enough to be sure that any early releasee would have to buy his way out by groveling on his knees before the Communists, bad-mouthing America. I gave their new release program a name: FRP -- the "Fink Release Program," and that was the way it was to be known. I also issued an order that started on its way to the other cell blocks of Las Vegas and with subsequent movers to the camps elsewhere in the city and outside it: "No early release; we all go home together".
Will you place this on its own thread so it will be easier to drop a link or picked up by others.
Jim, what are your thoughts? Apparently Mr McCain has a tad bit of Brianitise. He doesn’t know truth from fantasy!
Must have heard the meme “Mc Cain was offered an early release and turned it down” When in realty he was ordered to stay until all went home together
Will do.
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