Posted on 07/18/2015 12:53:28 PM PDT by spacejunkie2001
...and inverted the '08 portion to read '80, then stamped the bottom of a fake selective service form as if he really filled it out. Sheriff Joe's Posse proved that all forms had the entire year in the stamp....but not odumbo's.
When, pray tell, will ANY of the media do their job and search out obamas's fake documents and confront him with it????
“lawyers will make the case that the inability to produce the original document prevents his client from being able to defend themselves and receive a fair trial.
The attorney will then ask the judge to dismiss the charges for lack of evidence and the sympathetic judge will do so while expressing his frustration and extreme reluctance but claiming he ultimately had no choice.”
According to a Fox News Channel report, Obama’s birth certificate was moved from being stored in the vital records files to being stored in Dr. Onaka’s office safe for safekeeping.
Under Hawaii statutes, the original can be released for inspection via a court order from a judge.
“Obama Birth Certificate Moved To A More Secure Location Months Ago”
April 2, 2011:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/04/27/obama-birth-certificate-moved-secure-location-months-ago/
Note to all: Trump’s Twitter feed is great. Two of my favorites:
‘It will be nice to have a President who doesn’t support the Enemy.’
‘yep because hes AMERICAN not KENYAN.’
There are (at least) two fundamental problems with your posts. Do you know what they are, or are you, as the saying goes, without a clue?
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I have no interest in playing “how often do you beat your wife” loaded question logical fallacy games with you.
Now, c'mon, looking to answer the question of proper registration by asking the agency who is charged with overseeing the registration process is . . . a bit like cheating, no? Where's the challenge in that? One is supposed to pour over fuzzy microfiche copies posted to the internet and try to decipher whether some markings looks suspicious and make conclusions from that.
Killjoy.
I apologize for my insolence.
This is not a game. It is a fact. There are two fundamental, crucial issues/problems with your approach. I had assumed you were conversant with at least one of them, but chose to post the material anyway. I had speculated you might not be as cognizant of the second issue
And therein lies MY problem. I.e.: I rarely if ever fail to give Obama’s defenders more credit than they deserve.
I perceive you are entirely clueless after all. And that is just a shame. You have your little repertoire of items, you post them over and over and over, and you lack the analytical skills to ever, EVER grasp the fundamental problems with your approach.
Afaik there is no remedy for this. Obama’s defenders are just not astute when it comes to analyzing the weaknesses and shortcomings of their own positions. All they can truly grasp is that all Obama’s documents are the origin, authentic copies; Obama has never and would never lie about anything so fundamental as his birth, and so-called birthers are stupid. Anything beyond these three basic items, and they’re stumped.
I’m glad that you got that off your chest.
Your unerring gift of getting things wrong has not failed you. Nothing I posted falls into the category to which you alluded.
Ok.
That is incorrect.
Abstracted certificates (a.k.a., "short forms") are what is used most often for official purposes. (Though some short forms omit parent information, and those are sometimes insufficient for things like passports.)
Both my children have been issued computer-generated forms that list simply: Name, D.o.B, Place of Birth (City and State), Father and Mother names with ages and places of birth, the certificate filed date, certificate number, signature of registrar and issue date and seal. These have been sufficient for DMV purposes (in multiple states) and for issuance of passports.
Furthermore, the printed certification says: "I do hereby certify that the above is a true copy of the essential facts recorded on the birth record on file in this office for the individual named hereon." Nothing is said about verifying an ORIGINAL birth record, or that such is a "true and complete copy of the original birth record" or other such stuff some here have erroneously asserted is necessary to serve as legally sufficient evidence of the birth facts.
A true long form (i.e, a copy of the vault original containing things like the hospital, doctor's name, parent residence, racial information, doctor/mother signatures, etc.) is not needed for official purposes.
Obama could go on national tv tonight and announce
“I was born in Kenya and hereby appoint myself Permanent Grand Caliph of the USA”
And not much would happen, I believe....
There has been a rule change however and some older abstract birth certificates may not meet the newer requirement:
“As of April 1, 2011, the U.S. Department of State requires the full names of the applicants parent(s) to be listed on all certified birth certificates to be considered as primary evidence of U.S. citizenship for all passport applicants, regardless of age. Certified birth certificates missing this information are no longer acceptable as evidence of citizenship.”
“The Department recognizes that some passport applicants will not have two parents registered on their birth certificates due to circumstances such as an unknown father or a single-parent adoption case. In these cases, a passport applicant may submit a certified copy of a birth certificate listing the complete name of the registering parent. Regarding two parents adopting a child, the parents may amend the birth certificate of their child to reflect both of their complete names. Though requirements differ slightly across the country, states generally make it easy to amend a birth certificate to list adoptive parents. In adoption cases, the Department will also accept the certified copy of the childs original birth certificate as long as it is submitted with the certified copy of the adoption decree indicating the name of the child and his or her adoptive parents.
That, and finding an alibi for the motive in Chattanooga...
Besides, didn’t he claim he was in California all that summer?
Abstracted certificates (a.k.a., “short forms”) are what is used most often for official purposes. (Though some short forms omit parent information, and those are sometimes insufficient for things like passports.)
Do a google search on the legal definition of an abstracted birth certificate copy, what information it may or may not contain and it's validity and legality as an official document.
And you think I didn't already know or hadn't already done that?
Here's what the U.S. State Dept. lists as the necessary elements of a birth certificate:
Certified U.S. birth certificate (must meet all of the following requirements):(Highlights in original.)
* Issued by the City, County, or State of birth
*Lists bearer's full name, date of birth, and place of birth
*Lists parent(s) full names
*Has date filed with registrar's office (must be within one year of birth)
*Has registrar's signature
*Has embossed, impressed, or multicolored seal of registrar
*Photocopies and notarized copies are unacceptable
That is the information contained on the typical short form certificate.
So, as you can see, what I listed as contained on my children's computer-generated "short form" birth certificate meets the stated requirements. That explains why the State Department accepted them and issued passports using them as primary evidence of birth.
What is your basis for asserting that short forms are generally insufficient? (Again, I'm not including those omitting parent information as valid short forms).
Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecolgical Hospital has been the name since the 1930s.
Look at the footnote on the bottom of this page from a 1960 medical journal
Stamped number in the upper right corner is the Document Locator Number (DLN). The DLN is added at time the card is processed. Henderson's is 0897080613 and Obama's is 0897080632. Those numbers are pretty close to be 27 years apart.
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