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To: rdcbn
Do a google search on the legal definition of an abstracted birth certificate copy, what information it may or may not contain and it's validity and legality as an official document.

And you think I didn't already know or hadn't already done that?

Here's what the U.S. State Dept. lists as the necessary elements of a birth certificate:

Certified U.S. birth certificate (must meet all of the following requirements):
* Issued by the City, County, or State of birth
*Lists bearer's full name, date of birth, and place of birth
*Lists parent(s) full names
*Has date filed with registrar's office (must be within one year of birth)
*Has registrar's signature
*Has embossed, impressed, or multicolored seal of registrar
*Photocopies and notarized copies are unacceptable
(Highlights in original.)

That is the information contained on the typical short form certificate.

So, as you can see, what I listed as contained on my children's computer-generated "short form" birth certificate meets the stated requirements. That explains why the State Department accepted them and issued passports using them as primary evidence of birth.

What is your basis for asserting that short forms are generally insufficient? (Again, I'm not including those omitting parent information as valid short forms).

58 posted on 07/21/2015 4:39:58 PM PDT by CpnHook
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To: CpnHook
Here's what the U.S. State Dept. lists as the necessary elements of a birth certificate:

Hey Dummy! We don't give a sh*t what the state department accepts. The Constitution is a higher authority and is not governed by their preferences.

Only such material as is demonstrably provable to establish qualifications is acceptable, and once again, no body gives a sh*t what the state department or the local DMV thinks in regards to this.

132 posted on 07/23/2015 12:24:32 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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