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1 posted on 07/16/2015 5:57:08 AM PDT by xzins
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This is not merely theory: One Army study focusing on Operation Iraqi Freedom found women are almost twice as likely to suffer from non-combat related disease and injuries and are twice as likely to be medevac’d out of the theater of operations. Historical non-deployment rates for women are three to four times than that of men. Women suffer many times the rate of stress fractures and ACL injuries. All of this hurts combat readiness and increases costs. That we will still be able to defeat vastly inferior opponents is beside the point — more of our soldiers will die and our combat units will be less capable.

The military has been trying to devise programs that will close these gaps for decades, and hasn’t succeeded. A Royal Society of Medicine study on the British military found that that injuries skyrocketed for women “when they undertake the same arduous training as male recruits.” The end result was that women were eight times more likely to be discharged with back pain, tendon injuries, and stress fractures than their male counterparts. Indeed, many studies show that rigorous training only widens the gap between men and women.

This is all before we get to unit cohesion. If you have been around more than a couple of decades, you know that men and women working together in tight quarters will develop infatuations and relationships that will affect unit discipline and morale. Even mature, highly disciplined men and women are susceptible. The U.S. military is already awash in discipline and morale problems coming out of female–male interactions. Captain Serrano notes that “platoon commanders in co-ed units already deal with a tremendous amount of drama, pregnancies, and sex in the co-ed unit barracks.” The unavoidable disruption means units that are less lethal and less survivable.

The push to put women into combat is driven by an extreme, reality-challenged form of feminism. Unfortunately, its influence in the media, the entertainment industry, our universities, and politics has given it a tremendous base of political power that extends into the heart of the military. Jude Eden notes: “In my experience, feminism and political correctness are so prevalent in the military that men trip over themselves trying to ensure they do not offend. Military leaders cannot afford to even think the truth: Women are not as strong and athletic as strong, athletic men are.” Officers in the military understand that speaking honestly about the problems of women in combat can be a career-ender, while putting gender-diversity goals ahead of everything else can be a career-accelerator.

2 posted on 07/16/2015 5:57:48 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray for their victory or quit saying you support our troops)
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Sync our periods, give us machine guns and chocolate and stand back and watch.


3 posted on 07/16/2015 5:58:19 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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Worse case scenario for an Isis scumbag is to get offed in battle by an Israeli female bad ass.


7 posted on 07/16/2015 6:06:45 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ( Obammy is a lie, a mooselimb and pond scum.)
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To: xzins

War is unrelenting brutality.

Our enemies will exploit every weakness we have for victory.


10 posted on 07/16/2015 6:08:31 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: xzins

Good article and states the factual differences, on average, between gender.

The differences become more pronounced even when comparing any group of 100 men vs 100 women.

Besides, how are we suppose to tell if they are combat wounded or having a body function they have zero control over?


12 posted on 07/16/2015 6:12:44 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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Bad idea. Period. End of sentence.


13 posted on 07/16/2015 6:12:45 AM PDT by Twinkie (John 3:16)
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bfl


17 posted on 07/16/2015 6:18:22 AM PDT by mykroar ("Never believe anything until it has been officially denied." - Otto von Bismarck)
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To: xzins

Save for later.


21 posted on 07/16/2015 6:22:55 AM PDT by doc1019 (Blue lives matter)
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I know that having had women along on our armored cavalry ops in Vietnam would have gotten all that many more of our people killed.

Glad I’m out of the ferry farm that the US military is fast becoming.


22 posted on 07/16/2015 6:22:57 AM PDT by onedoug
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People will die in order to “prove” the liberal mantra that men and women are the same, and that “gender” is a continuum and that a person can pass from one to the other at will.


23 posted on 07/16/2015 6:23:47 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country)
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Ping.


24 posted on 07/16/2015 6:23:51 AM PDT by TADSLOS (A Ted Cruz Happy Warrior! GO TED!)
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As a condition, women must sign up for the draft. Popcorn is ready.


26 posted on 07/16/2015 6:26:55 AM PDT by huldah1776
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To: xzins; Diana in Wisconsin

My daughter was in the Marines. She felt pretty tough when she got out of boot camp.

A short time later, she met an Army guy just out of boot camp and challenged him to a fight. He picked her up with one hand and tossed her across the room. Not judo...but like he was tossing a 100 lb bale of hay at the farm.

Then he said, “You’re cute!”

She decide “cute” was better than “hospitalized” and they got along well after that.

She later married a Marine in the infantry.

She says it is absolutely insane to try to put women in the infantry - that she never met a woman, in or out of the Marines, who could handle what the infantry had to do.


27 posted on 07/16/2015 6:27:31 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Can you remember what America was like in 2004?)
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I have to agree and disagree. I agree women aren’t the best suited to combat, but there are some situations where combat training (and some experience) for women could come in handy. For example, I was just reading about the Armenian genocide (and of course we know about other genocides). In those situation where the men are depleted through warfare or going underground to fight a guerilla war, the women are left to defend themselves and their children and old people. They could benefit from some tactical training in at least holding off the enemy until some help arrives.

Instead what we’ve seen throughout history is women being totally defenseless and eventually being rounded up and put on forced marches where the children and old and even many of the younger women die ... or they die in detention etc. We’ve seen this same scenario over and over even up to the present.

Even in WWII younger French women who were left behind when the French Army basically disintegrated or went underground ... they were rounded up to work as slaves in German munitions factories ... and eventually towards the end put in concentration camps with others. I’ve read stories of some of the younger women in those situations forming sort-of battle groups as best they could manage, escaping the camps and living rough in the nearby countryside, obtaining a few weapons with which to harry the retreating Germans and to defend themselves against advancing Russian troops who were often not kind to women POWs.

In light of many historical examples where the men are decimated through war (we see that now happening in Syria/Iraq) women could benefit from some military training to help defend those left behind.

We haven’t really seen to much of that in our country as we have had few wars on our soil which resulted in genocide or civilians ending up undefended from invading armies. There was some of that in the Revolutionary war and in those days many women knew how to operate a weapon and had some outdoor survival skills. Certainly frontier women had this knowledge and could defend themselves somewhat from Indian attacks while men were away hunting or at war.

So, just because women are in general not best suited for combat compared to men, compared to having nothing ... no training whatsoever and no way to defend yourself and your children, that is not good either.

This doesn’t necessarily mean women need to be in elite forces. But I do think all young people having some military training (like in Israel) makes your entire society more prepared for different contingencies ... such as the men being taken out and the women, children and older people being left at the mercy of invaders.

So yes, men can do a better job militarily ... if they are around. But if they are not around you need a second (and probably third) line of defense. Just because we haven’t faced the situation yet on our soil doesn’t mean it can’t happen. It would be good to have a greater percentage of our population have at least some military training.


32 posted on 07/16/2015 6:33:49 AM PDT by Lorianne
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There’s a reason there aren’t a lot of girls playing high school football, or other men’s teams. Yes, I know that a few select women are stronger than the men, etc...and if they meet the standards...etc., but that is not what is going to happen. These MOS are going to be flooded with women who cannot keep up - it won’t just be a select few.


35 posted on 07/16/2015 6:40:15 AM PDT by lacrew
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Beverly LaHaye (CWA) & Phyllis Schlafly (Eagle’s Forum) had it right when they fought against the Equal Rights Amendment.


37 posted on 07/16/2015 6:41:13 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever
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This needs to be read into the Congressional Record, with the following commentary:

“No policy, written or unwritten, should contradict these realities. Women should be PROHIBITED from front line combat roles, to avoid the consequences of this misguided social experiment.”


39 posted on 07/16/2015 6:43:47 AM PDT by G Larry (Obama Hates America, Israel, Capitalism, Freedom, and Christianity.)
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BFLR


50 posted on 07/16/2015 7:58:03 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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51 posted on 07/16/2015 8:03:48 AM PDT by shooter223 (the government should fear the citizens......not the other way around)
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I think there could be a role for a very few women in special ops. VERY FEW.

Overall, putting women in a combat where physical strength is needed is not a good idea. Few women are psychologically suited to combat. In addition, most men would instinctively become protective of the women which would compromise their effectiveness.

On the plus side, it would be very demoralizing to most of our enemies to be taken out by a woman. On the minus side, it would be demoralizing for us as a country to see our young women coming back in body bags, missing limbs, psychologically damaged. Not good to see men like this, either, but especially traumatizing for a nation to see this happen to its women.


58 posted on 07/16/2015 12:02:34 PM PDT by generally (Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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