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Grand Jury Testimony In Cold War-Era Rosenberg Case Released (Brother's Testimony)
NPR ^ | 7/15

Posted on 07/15/2015 6:15:21 PM PDT by nickcarraway

Here's what we know: Julius and Ethel Rosenberg were executed in 1953 for selling U.S. nuclear secrets to the Soviet Union after one of the most sensational Cold War-era espionage trials. They were convicted in 1951 owing, largely, to the testimony of David Greenglass, Ethel Rosenberg's brother.

Here's what we don't know: How credible Greenglass' testimony was in court.

Greenglass himself spent nearly a decade in prison for his role in the conspiracy. The Army sergeant stole nuclear intelligence from Los Alamos, N.M., and said he passed it on to the Rosenbergs. At the trial, he said Ethel Rosenberg typed his notes that were then given to the Russians.

But decades later, Greenglass, who died in 2014, told New York Times reporter Sam Roberts he had lied to protect his wife, Ruth Greenglass, and suggested it was she who had typed up the notes. Ruth Greenglass died in 2008.

Today the National Security Archives released Greenglass' grand jury testimony, lending weight to his account to Roberts.

In the testimony from Aug. 7, 1950, Greenglass is asked whether Ethel Rosenberg asked him to stay in the Army so he could continue providing information from Los Alamos. His reply: "I said before, and say it again, honestly, this is a fact: I never spoke to my sister about this at all."

But at trial, a year later, he put Ethel at the center of the conspiracy. The documents released today show it was Ruth who played a far more pivotal role.

The testimony, which was sealed for more than six decades, was released upon the order of Judge Alvin Hellerstein, who cited its historical significance.

The Rosenbergs maintained their innocence until their execution by electric chair.

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1 posted on 07/15/2015 6:15:21 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Didn’t the Venona Papers clear this up?


2 posted on 07/15/2015 6:22:17 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (I'm fed up.)
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To: nickcarraway

The future president who faces both North Korean and Iranian nuclear weapons should seriously forget about Chamberlain vis-a-vis B.J. Clinton and B.H. Obama — that future president had better think Rosenbergs.


3 posted on 07/15/2015 6:23:33 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: nickcarraway
Julius and Ethel Rosenberg were executed in 1953 for selling U.S. nuclear secrets to the Soviet Union...

And that cheapskate commie Rosenberg STILL hasn't paid his electric bill.

4 posted on 07/15/2015 6:29:32 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (America, a Rule of Mob nation)
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To: nickcarraway

this is the opposite of what was said when Greenglass died, he confessed to him and the rosenbergs being guilty

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/10/14/greenglass-obituary-rosenberg/17274539/


5 posted on 07/15/2015 6:34:08 PM PDT by RaceBannon (Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

Ethel and Julius Clinton gave missile technology to the Chicoms.


6 posted on 07/15/2015 6:34:15 PM PDT by forgotten man
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To: nickcarraway

The Commies at NPR are still trying to pretend they weren’t spies. Lying is one thing you can trust a Commie to do.


7 posted on 07/15/2015 6:36:05 PM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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To: nickcarraway

List of Americans in the Venona papers

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Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan, Chairman of the bipartisan Commission on Government Secrecy, responsible for securing the release of Venona project materials, in the Introduction to his book Secrecy states, "The Venona intercepts contained overwhelming proof of the activities of Soviet spy networks in America, complete with names, dates, places, and deeds."(1) The release involved careful consideration of privacy interests of individuals mentioned, referenced, or identified in the translations. Some names have not been released when to do so would constitute an invasion of privacy. Over 200 named or covernamed persons found in the VENONA translations, persons then present in the U.S., are claimed by the KGB and the GRU in their messages as their clandestine assets or contacts.(2)

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  1. ? FBI Silvermaster file, Vol. 54, pgs. 128 - 129 pdf. Record of conversation between Elizabeth Bentley and William Browder, brother of Earl Browder.

8 posted on 07/15/2015 6:36:45 PM PDT by RaceBannon (Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for)
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To: nickcarraway

And the NY Judge put away MLK, Jr., surveillance from 1963-1967 away for 50 years. What is so damaging that the FBI tapes have to be sequestered for over 50 years for MLK, Jr.? What has the honored MLK,Jr., got to hide if the tapes captured the true nature of the man?


9 posted on 07/15/2015 6:38:12 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: forgotten man

The Soviets might not have perfected an A-bomb before the early 1950s had it not been for help from espionage.

Ergo, the Soviets might not have permitted the Korean War to be launched, since they would have had no retaliatory weapon ready. and the US would have had a monopoly on the Bomb.

So, it is possible that all the deaths in that war (Korean, US, and others) and all the destruction, were the result of espionage by many —including the Rosenbergs.


10 posted on 07/15/2015 6:39:50 PM PDT by CondorFlight (I)
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To: nickcarraway
Julius and Ethel Rosenberg were executed in 1953 for selling U.S. nuclear secrets to the Soviet Union

It is my recollection that they didn't sell them, they handed them over, like good Stalinists.

11 posted on 07/15/2015 6:54:16 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: CondorFlight
Then again, according to Dean Acheson "the Korean War saved us".
12 posted on 07/15/2015 6:57:28 PM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: CondorFlight

Not to mention all the millions murdered by the North Korean regime over the years.


13 posted on 07/15/2015 7:01:36 PM PDT by Truthsearcher
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To: RaceBannon

Thanks for the list!


14 posted on 07/15/2015 7:08:47 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: vetvetdoug

“What is so damaging that the FBI tapes have to be sequestered for over 50 years for MLK, Jr.? What has the honored MLK,Jr., got to hide if the tapes captured the true nature of the man?”

He liked sleeping with white women and he was hanging out with and employing communists.


15 posted on 07/15/2015 7:09:52 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

as i recall, yes.

but old lefties can’t ever let go.

and NPR is nothing if not a home for old lefties.


16 posted on 07/15/2015 7:31:51 PM PDT by TangibleDisgust ("To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize." - Voltaire)
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To: vladimir998

i don’t understand what MLK Jr. did that is so great that he deserves streets and schools named after him, monuments in washington DC, and a national holiday.

he was a private citizen basically doing the same thing that al sharpton does today. he got shot. if elevating him to the level of secular sainthood is not an example of affirmative action run amok, i honestly don’t know what is.

sure, he was a better speaker than al sharpton and not such a shameless self-promoter, but outside of his “i have a dream speech”, what did he do? and if all it takes is 1 good speech to become a national hero, then that’s a pretty low bar that millions of americans can easily hurdle.

this might not be politically correct, but as far as i can tell... the fact that he was black, that he was murdered, that black people went crazy with riots afterwards, and that liberal whites were born with a terrible case of misplaced guilt are the only reason that he’s now a secular saint.

i don’t hold him in any particular regard. i guess that makes me a racist, homophobe, nazi, sexist huh? *shrugs, doesn’t care*


17 posted on 07/15/2015 7:38:09 PM PDT by TangibleDisgust ("To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize." - Voltaire)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Venona definitely established that Julius was a spy. But it appears that Ethel’s involvement was slight.


18 posted on 07/15/2015 7:39:48 PM PDT by GrootheWanderer
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Yes, the Venona papers identified Ethel Rosenberg as one of the prime movers in Julius’ spy operation. If I remember correctly, she was involved in photographing the documents among other things.

John Haynes/Harvey Khler wrote a massive book entitled “Venona”. Followed up by Herbert Romerstein and possibly Eric Breindel with a book of similar name and subject.

Looks like Greenglass tried a last minute Rope-A-Dope on the US.

Read the ignorant replies and smears at the end of the NPR article. Pathetic but typical of liberals and their red friends.

Name of the co-defendant was Morton Sobell, who admitted that he was a Soviet spy after getting out of prison. Google his name and you will find the articles in which he made this admission.

His wife was just as bad as he was. Don’t know if she ever was openly identified as a member of the Communist Party USA (CPUSA), but his first wife, also named Helen, was a Party member in the DC/MD group. A real nasty red bitch. I tangled with her years ago. Her husband, Casey, was also a DC Party member.

She had ties to a suspected Soviet spies named Abe Bloom and Alfred Hensley (Takoma Park, Md).Bloom lied to authorities about being a communist while he worked at the National Bureau of Standards on the “Proximity fuse”, an integral part of the triggering mechanism of the A-bomb.

A smooth, cool character, a liar par excellence. One of the key DC leaders of the various Hanoi Lobby “united fronts” known as the various “Mobilization Committee to End the War in Vietnam”, and then went with the Trotskyite split off faction known as NPAC, National Peace Action Coalition.

The communist web of subversion has NOT YET BEEN TOTALLY EXPOSED. I would say that they are two more spy rings that have never been exposed (I learned this from the late FBI undercover agent Herbert “I Led Three Lives” Philbrick”, one of my mentors.

There is also a strong possibility that a Soviet operation in Chicago had a direct connection to Obama and his network. Too many reds with Soviet ties show up in his past, from Frank Marshall Davis to David S. Canter (and Leroy Wolins), as well as Dr. Quentin Young and Milton Cohen, among others.

Think of communist operations in the US as one big-assed Gordian Knot that has not yet been completely unraveled. The Soviets were the best spies in history and we are still suffering from their American traitors and operations.


19 posted on 07/15/2015 7:41:22 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper (madmax)
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To: vetvetdoug

MLK Jr. had a high-ranking Communist Party USA (CPUSA) operative as his personal secretary, Jack O’Dell (aka Hunter Pitts O’Dell, aka John Vesey). He was employed by SCLC and later served for nearly 40 years a Jesse Jackson’s Operation PUSH, Breadbasket and the Rainbow Coalition as head of their International Affairs/Department.

King’s top financial advisor, legal advisor and friend was Stanley Levison, a covert CPUSA member and KGB money-handler for the Party. He was forced out of the red closet during Executive Session hearings by Congress in the 1970’s but he never was prosecuted for treason.

King was also connected to the CPUSA-dominated Highlander School in Tennesse. Believe it was run by CPUSA member Aubrey Williams, among others.

Other King associates in SCLC, over the years, had very significant ties to the CPUSA, Cuba and Hanoi, including Rev. James Bevel (in jail for molesting his daughter); Ralph David Abernathy, a VP of the Soviet/KGB “World Peace Council” - he later left the communists and worked against them; Rev. Wyatt Tee Walker; Carl Farris (sp); and others.

There were other internal security issues on the wiretaps that have not been made public, and probably won’t for decades.

King was a complex figure, some parts very good, other parts, not so good. The whole truth will probably never be known.

A leftist book on the King (actually two books), by David Garrow, a leftist professor, roughly entitled “The FBI and Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr”.

King was caught, early on in his career, in a classical Soviet/Communist Party “sandwich” (advisors on both sides of him and his campaigns), and he never stood a chance once they got their hooks in him.

Also happened to Albert Einstein whose secretaries were a female MKVD agent and a German Communist Party member Otto Nathan.

No one knows just how many communist “sandwiches” Barack Obama was caught in but the evidence is growing that he didn’t care. It was all for power. The question is who is guiding and pulling his strings.


20 posted on 07/15/2015 7:53:53 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper (madmax)
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