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Obama Warns Congress Not to Stand in Way of Iran Deal
NY TIMES ^ | 7/14/15

Posted on 07/14/2015 5:38:38 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper

....Obama heralded a historic nuclear agreement with Iran Tuesday as an opportunity for the longtime foes to move in a "new direction," while sharply warning Congress that it would be irresponsible to block the accord.

(Excerpt) Read more at mobile.nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: capitulation; failure; gutless; weak
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To: SoFloFreeper
EVERYTHING obama does either:
a) Weakens America/Americans
b) Distances America's allies
c) Strengthens America's enemies
d) Serves Islam
e) Harms Israel
Or some combination of the above.
There are NO counter examples.
21 posted on 07/14/2015 5:54:56 AM PDT by null and void (We've always been at war with Iceageia!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Somebody explain to me why this deal, like Nafta and TPP, is not a treaty and subject to the 2/3 ratification rule of the Constitution.


22 posted on 07/14/2015 5:57:50 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Resistance to Tyrants is obedience to God!)
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To: CIB-173RDABN
Millions are going to die as a result of caving into Iran’s demands.

Obama’s place in history is secure, however it will not be for what he thinks.

I first posted this in '09:

Ummm. No.

History is written by the victors.

If this covert muslim single handedly brings down “The Great Satan”, his praises will be sung in mosques for millennia.

What better write-up, how much more glory could any human hope for?


23 posted on 07/14/2015 5:58:12 AM PDT by null and void (We've always been at war with Iceageia!)
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To: CIB-173RDABN


Kerry Lied

Millions Died

He's going for a billion dead this time

24 posted on 07/14/2015 6:00:04 AM PDT by null and void (We've always been at war with Iceageia!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

FUBO.


25 posted on 07/14/2015 6:00:24 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("No social transformation without representation." - Justice Antonin Scalia)
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To: SoFloFreeper

So, does anyone get to read it now that it’s done or is it still classified?


26 posted on 07/14/2015 6:00:41 AM PDT by BlueNgold (May I suggest a very nice 1788 Article V with your supper...)
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To: Sacajaweau
The Congress is not calling this a treaty...just an agreement.

What is the difference?

27 posted on 07/14/2015 6:00:59 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Resistance to Tyrants is obedience to God!)
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To: P-Marlowe
It's not a treaty, it's an agreement!
28 posted on 07/14/2015 6:01:24 AM PDT by null and void (We've always been at war with Iceageia!)
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To: P-Marlowe

A treaty would require a 2/3 approval in congress.


29 posted on 07/14/2015 6:02:22 AM PDT by null and void (We've always been at war with Iceageia!)
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To: null and void
A treaty would require a 2/3 approval in congress.

And this "agreement" does not meet the definition of a treaty because.....?

30 posted on 07/14/2015 6:04:02 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Resistance to Tyrants is obedience to God!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Congress will conduct a little security theater. The GOP will speachify, denounce the agreement, then vote it down: Obama will veto the legislation and his veto will be upheld - all according to the original plans.


31 posted on 07/14/2015 6:04:31 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: kennedy

“When (not if) Iran sets off its first nuke Obama will own it.”

AND....If it’s the destruction of Israel, Obama will be pleased.


32 posted on 07/14/2015 6:04:40 AM PDT by oust the louse (The LEFT has no principles, it only has goals !)
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To: SoFloFreeper
>>> Obama Warns Congress Not to Stand in Way of Iran Deal

Obama Warns Congress "Tame Monkeys" Not to Stand in Way of Iran Deal

FIFY

33 posted on 07/14/2015 6:06:05 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: P-Marlowe

Because if they called it a treaty they’d need a 2/3 vote.


34 posted on 07/14/2015 6:07:45 AM PDT by null and void (We've always been at war with Iceageia!)
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To: null and void
Because if they called it a treaty they’d need a 2/3 vote.

The Constitution requires that all treaties must receive a 2/3 approval by the Senate.

Are you suggesting that if they call a treaty an "agreement" that the congress and the president can just bypass the treaty clause?

Are you ok with that?

This is a treaty. Look it up.

35 posted on 07/14/2015 6:11:13 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Resistance to Tyrants is obedience to God!)
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To: Truth29
The GOP will speachify, denounce the agreement, then vote it down: Obama will veto the legislation and his veto will be upheld - all according to the original plans.

I don't understand what you are trying to say.

How do you veto a rejection?

36 posted on 07/14/2015 6:12:41 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Resistance to Tyrants is obedience to God!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

McConnell and Boehner last seen cowering under their desks and sucking their thumbs.

==


37 posted on 07/14/2015 6:16:51 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: P-Marlowe

Congress vill vote the agreement down, Obama will veto the Congressional vote and his veto will be upheld, just as was planned in the April Iran bill that Obama signed.


38 posted on 07/14/2015 6:20:12 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: P-Marlowe

Because it is about the lifting of sanctions, the authority for which has been (unconstitutionally, in my view) delegated by Congress to the President.

According to this interpretation of the law, Obama does not need to get Congressional approval for anything.


39 posted on 07/14/2015 6:20:51 AM PDT by oblomov
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To: SoFloFreeper

I suspect Senator Tom Cotton (R-AR) will be making the rounds to the media and the Senate well to condemn this deal.

He seems to be the most vocal opponent to it in the Senate.


40 posted on 07/14/2015 6:22:51 AM PDT by TomGuy
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