Posted on 07/13/2015 9:26:59 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
Isnip)......I truly, honestly, and with all my heart and mind think Donald Trumps most ardent supporters are making a yuuuuuuge mistake. I think they are being conned and played. I feel like a guy whose brother is being taken advantage of by a grifter. Im watching helplessly as the con artist congratulates him for taking out a third mortgage......(snip)
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Messenger well and truly shot. Nice work.
I like and agree with a lot of what he is saying as well.
I just can’t shake that nagging feeling that somehow the Clinton’s are quietly “Peroting” us again. Who stands to gain the most from Trump’s rise in the polls? It’s still very early, but if he starts to fade and looks to go independent, I have to assume this is being orchestrated by the shrill.
Donald Trump is the politically incorrect answer to political correctness.
He has my attention.
I like Trump only in so far is that real conservative candidates need to use him as an example on how to cut through the lib-dem crap.
He doesn't know squat about politics, though, as evidence by his endorsing Mitch McConnell for "speaker" of the senate.
With over 120 replies in this thread, it would suggest that your fellow FReepers aren’t done talking about this, eh?
I already know. He is promoting himself.
But for what purpose? Promoters always have a specific tangible purpose in mind.
Great point about Hunter. If FReepers wanted border security he was the perfect candidate.
I understand where Jonah is coming from, but his choice of words is on the groteque side.
Trump is a guy who is speaking what the sane people think and say, but cannot get traction on. He does not need to pander, but there could be an aspect of that in his bravado.
Cruz and Walker are the only others to have spoken with so much backbone. Of these two, Walker has hired the man who got Thad Cochran in office again to run his election campaign and stayed comparatively silent on Trump’s positions. Cruz has stood by Trump’s stance.
I trust Cruz more, by far, on the issues. But I would be extremely happy to see all others but these two gone before the primary voting starts.
Any candidate not speaking out against illegal immigration is a joke—and not Trump.
Jonah sounds like Lindsay Graham, but with harsher words.
Jonah needs to let people decide through honest means, rather than by smear.
You should, too.
Trump may be a lot of things but being someone’s sock puppet isn’t one of them. A guy with Trump’s ego isn’t going to play second fiddle for anyone.
We may not know why he’s doing it or what he really believes but you can bet it’s solely for his own reasons.
Maybe he began it as a lark and the thing took off way more than he ever expected. Maybe he thinks that America is collapsing and as a patriot he will try to save it. Whatever it is enjoy the show, we may not see anything like it again.
He has everything money can buy save for what? The White House.
Well, I’m not a big Trump supporter, but I think he’s really adding a lot to the debate. He is actually giving cover to other conservatives and allowing them to appear very reasonable, while still making strong conservative points. This is the first time we have really had someone who can make the rest of our candidates look good to libs ;)
That's a fact. And pissant could prove it all day long.
Illegal immigration is a second major cause of the high unemployment. But because of the reaction to some of Trumps statements, it's taken center stage.
Here's an answer to his questions:
Immigration: Question: Just how many rapists and drug dealers did Donald Trump want to give green cards to?
Slanderous cheap shot since Trump is on record wanting to deport the criminals and the sponges. And no candidate, not even Cruz has said he will deport them all. Trump is right when he says there has to be a path for legalization. You cannot fix this problem because it's gone on for 30 years, and there have been marriages and children and business partnerships, and etc. There is no just way to deport them all. Trump wants to halt the hemmorage and deport the worst. Cruz wants to halt the hemmorage and only then talk about what to do with the ones that are here.
Abortion: at least hes flip-flopping in the right direction, and I dont like to second guess peoples professed religious convictions.
Yet this asswipe did second guess him. And one change in the right direction hardly makes Trump a flip-flopper.
"Obamacare: The man wrote in his own book and said elsewhere that he was in favor of Canadian-style socialized medicine"
Here's Trumps actual statements on Healthcare. He is for repeal of Obamacare, but he also wants to find market based ways to take care of all of our people.
Hillary: Speaking of her, Trump praised Hillary Clinton and her health-care reform plan in 2007!
Trump change of heart on Hillary And What he really said was in the context of her running for the democrat nomination
Economics: People tout the guys business record. But he represents almost exactly what his supporters think he opposes. Hes a crony capitalist par excellence. He gives to whatever politician can grease the skids for his next deal and he makes no apologies for it. Hes an eminent-domain voluptuary. He abuses bankruptcy laws like a stack of homemade get-out-of-jail-free cards.
Well the author effectively excuses Trump for his donations to the democrats acknowledging that it's just business. But he tirades against Trump for using Corporate structures to manage risk the way they were designed to be used. I can see why Trump made fun of him.
Seriously, This guy is not looking at the issues as much as he is looking at a way to attack Trump. Here's a more comprehensive look. Is Trump perfect? No. Are any of them? No. Trump understands the economy better than any of them.
RE: #99
I like the way you think. I won’t vote for Trump in the primary, instead I’ll pick Cruz. I do like what Trump has done by getting this issue out in the open and forcing the spineless RINO’s to “out” themselves. By doing this, low information voters now know what squishes Christie, JEB, Lindsey, and Rubio are.
That's actually pretty funny.
Goldberg says a lot of interesting things here... but I keep going back to this question:
Where would the party be RIGHT NOW if there was no Donald Trump in the mix?
Jeb Bush frontrunner, that's where.
And for me, nothing is worse that that.
N O T H I N G
I subscribed from 1976 to 1990. By 1990 the great writers I had once read there had left or been booted by the new crowd. It’s only gotten worse.
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