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Trump 2008: Bush Is Evil, Talk to Iran, Obama Cannot Do Worse Than Bush
National Review ^ | 07/10/2015 | Jim Geraghty

Posted on 07/10/2015 5:14:53 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

From the last Morning Jolt of the week: Trump 2008: Bush Is Evil, Talk to Iran, Obama Cannot Do Worse Than Bush

You may have gathered that I remain a skeptic about Donald Trump. Trump fans look at us skeptics with incredulity that we could possibly object to their man, and his ability to “change the debate,” and force the media to discuss topics like sanctuary cities.

Those of us not so enamored with Trump look at how that quality suddenly outranks all other qualities in a potential Republican presidential candidate – including consistent conservatism.

Permit me to remind you about Donald Trump’s assessment of President Bush back in 2008: Bush has been so bad, maybe the worst president in the history of this country. He has been so incompetent, so bad, so evil, that I don’t think any Republican could have won. Evil? Evil? Of course, in the same interview, Trump endorsed… diplomatic outreach with Iran. You know, you can be enemies with people, whether it’s Iran, Iraq, anyplace else and you can still have dialogue. These people won’t even talk to him. It’s terrible.

Wait, there’s more! Check out his assessment of Obama!

VAN SUSTEREN: The new president-elect, what are your thoughts? Pretty exciting, it’s always exciting when we have a change of power, a transition, but what are your thoughts.

TRUMP: It’s very exciting we have a new president. It would have been nice if he ended with a 500 point up instead of down. It’s certainly very exciting. His speech was great last night. I thought it was inspiring in every way. And, hopefully he’s going to do a great job. But the way I look at it, he cannot do worse than Bush.

VAN SUSTEREN: We know how you feel about this.

TRUMP: It’s not me, it’s everybody. It’s been a total catastrophe. That’s what happened to Republicans. They got run are out of office because we have president that’s been so bad. And he’s been a catastrophe, there’s no question about it. He got us into a war we didn’t need. You look at the money, we’re spending hundreds of billions of dollars on a war, and then people wonder why the economy isn’t doing well. OPEC is ripping us off left and right, the oil countries are just ripping us off left and right. So you have wars, you have OPEC, all of this stuff. He didn’t do anything about it. He sends Condoleezza Rice. She gets off a plane and waves to everybody and then leaves. It’s ridiculous.

VAN SUSTEREN: Governor Palin–do you think we’ll see her back in 2012? What are your thoughts on that?

TRUMP: I don’t know. There’s a real question–she certainly made things interesting, but the question is, did she help? I met her a couple of times. She’s really nice. I just don’t know. I just have no answer for it. And then here’s his thoughts on health care back in 1999…

TRUMP: I think you have to have it, and, again, I said I’m conservative, generally speaking, I’m conservative, and even very conservative. But I’m quite liberal and getting much more liberal on health care and other things. I really say: What’s the purpose of a country if you’re not going to have defensive and health care? If you can’t take care of your sick in the country, forget it, it’s all over. I mean, it’s no good. So I’m very liberal when it comes to health care. I believe in universal health care. I believe in whatever it takes to make people well and better.

KING: So you believe, then, it’s an entitlement of birth?

TRUMP: I think it is. It’s an entitlement to this country, and too bad the world can’t be, you know, in this country. But the fact is, it’s an entitlement to this country if we’re going to have a great country. And then, as you probably saw, Trump’s post-2012 comments on illegal immigration: “Republicans didn’t have anything going for them with respect to Latinos and with respect to Asians,” the billionaire developer says. “The Democrats didn’t have a policy for dealing with illegal immigrants, but what they did have going for them is they weren’t mean-spirited about it,” Trump says. “They didn’t know what the policy was, but what they were is they were kind.” Romney’s solution of “self deportation” for illegal aliens made no sense and suggested that Republicans do not care about Hispanics in general, Trump says. “He had a crazy policy of self deportation which was maniacal,” Trump says. “It sounded as bad as it was, and he lost all of the Latino vote,”

Trump notes. “He lost the Asian vote. He lost everybody who is inspired to come into this country.” The GOP has to develop a comprehensive policy “to take care of this incredible problem that we have with respect to immigration, with respect to people wanting to be wonderful productive citizens of this country,”

Trump says. Yet I see people comparing Trump to Reagan.

Donald Trump has been a conservative for about ten minutes.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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To: SeekAndFind

Skimming FR and Breitbart this morning it looks like the GOPe swells at NR have been busy. Not to mention “The Jeb News Channel’s” Dana PeRino/Karl Rove clones.

Heheh, dissing Trump’s “conservativism” is a laff riot coming from the other “48”(TGO’s number)stiffs running for the GOP nomination.

I think it is telling that the only other GOP candidate who has good things to say about Trump is the only genuine conservative in the field: Ted Cruz. And whatever or whoever Cruz approves i approve.


41 posted on 07/10/2015 6:39:50 AM PDT by TTFlyer
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To: novemberslady

The Iraq War and G W Bush were a terrible disaster for America. The war and GWB’s bumbling, liberal-lite presidency gave us Barack Hussein Obama. Who is, of course, worse than Bush.

But it’s relative. GWB’s presidency compares to America being tied to the railroad tracks. In Obama’s presidency, the train runs America over.

Trump has said as much. He recognizes the obvious. But let us trash Trump. Because, as we all know, Jebby Saves....


42 posted on 07/10/2015 6:39:50 AM PDT by TTFlyer
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To: cripplecreek
BEWARE the DemocRAT Donald Trump !
43 posted on 07/10/2015 6:43:58 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: SeekAndFind

Hey in 2008 who wasn’t sick of Bush. He took 8 years where he could have done some really fantastic things and totally wasted them on war and big govt initiatives. I was sick to death him. I’m still mad.


44 posted on 07/10/2015 6:52:19 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Hey in 2008 who wasn’t sick of Bush. He took 8 years where he could have done some really fantastic things and totally wasted them on war and big govt initiatives. I was sick to death him. I’m still mad.


45 posted on 07/10/2015 6:52:58 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: wastoute
I don’t think any of us are fooled by Trump

I wish that was true. But there is an astounding number of Freepers who are his biggest cheerleaders.

46 posted on 07/10/2015 6:58:00 AM PDT by gdani (No sacred cows)
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To: TTFlyer
Your guy trump may get elected but it won't be with my help.

Bash President Bush all you want, but this shithole we're in was created by obama and his flying butt monkeys.
47 posted on 07/10/2015 7:06:12 AM PDT by novemberslady
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m sure that after a while it will come out that Trump voted for Clinton and Obama. That will be hard to explain away for most Repubs. He’s never been a conservative. I said the same for Bloomberg, but nobody seems to care.


48 posted on 07/10/2015 7:10:15 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: SeekAndFind

This political opportunist was pro-choice prior to 2011. Trust him at your peril.


49 posted on 07/10/2015 7:11:27 AM PDT by catfish1957 (I display the Confederate Battle Flag with pride in honor of my brave ancestors who fought w/ valor)
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To: Yosemitest

Trump money buys a lot of koolaide.


50 posted on 07/10/2015 7:20:26 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Sad fact, most people just want a candidate to tell them what they want to hear)
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To: WayneS
No matter how bad GWB was, how could sane, rational, people "hope" Obama was going to "do a good job" when our sanity and rationality led us to know he was going to do very, very bad things to this country?

I agree with you. I knew at the time that Obama would do a terrible job. I was only surprised at how quickly I was confirmed to be right.

The apology tour, and the unilateral scrapping of the missile defense in the formerly soviet block nations (could have been an negotiating tool with the Soviets, made no sense at all to give it up unilaterally with no quid pro quo).

Maybe Trump was trying to put a good face on a bad event (election of Obama), or trying to speak PC, or trying to court favor with the new administration. He shouldn't have said it.

51 posted on 07/10/2015 7:23:52 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (The media must be defeated any way it can be done.)
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To: cripplecreek
And Trump wants to buy MORE ILLEGALS' labor with his money.
52 posted on 07/10/2015 7:26:57 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

I see no boby wanted any part of you very accurate comment. Bush was one of the worst presidents ever. The most horrible one got elected by running against Bush twice! Only the most horrible one can make a horrible one good relatively OK.


53 posted on 07/10/2015 7:43:35 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

“He’s probably a loose canon on all sorts of issues, but I would be happy to vote for him if he keeps his position strong on Immigration, as well as on OPEC, Mexico and China. I’m not sure that our candidate, any candidate we choose, is going to be perfect. But if we have a candidate who will listen and obey the voters, that might make him worthwhile.”

Whatever it is you are drinking, it must resemble Kool Aid.


54 posted on 07/10/2015 8:07:49 AM PDT by Pirate Ragnar (Libs put feelings first and thought second.)
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To: Nickname

“I think Trump only differs from the RINO brigade on illegal immigration and jobs but I’m so fed up with the GOP that if Republicans nominate Bush, I hope Trump runs as an independent.”

Written by a true Hillary fan.


55 posted on 07/10/2015 8:10:39 AM PDT by Pirate Ragnar (Libs put feelings first and thought second.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Like it or not if it comes down to Hillary vs Bush there will be a third party candidate.

I’m no fan of Trump, but I don’t believe he hates America like all the DemonRATS do.


56 posted on 07/10/2015 9:50:59 AM PDT by Seruzawa (All those memories will be lost,in time, like tears in rain.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
Ah...so you see Cripplecreek as a neutral party not "pushing" any candidate, just providing information to the masses. Got it.

Tell me, how exactly is Donald Trump bad for politics right now?

57 posted on 07/10/2015 9:51:02 AM PDT by Solson (Grand Old Party 1854 - 2010 RIP)
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To: Servant of the Cross

The GOPe will never fight. They are as much a part of the problem as the RATS.


58 posted on 07/10/2015 9:54:27 AM PDT by Seruzawa (All those memories will be lost,in time, like tears in rain.)
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To: cripplecreek
Trump money buys a lot of koolaide.

What's amazing is he hasn't spent any money on this early run.

He knows how to play the media (including the new media) to get his message out. That more than anything is why he is a formidable candidate.

59 posted on 07/10/2015 10:02:26 AM PDT by Lakeshark
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To: Seruzawa

RE: Like it or not if it comes down to Hillary vs Bush there will be a third party candidate.

Sounds like a repeat of 1992. We all know how that turned out.


60 posted on 07/10/2015 10:25:20 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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