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How have we fallen so far?
Personal Liberty ^ | July 6, 2015 | Bob Livingston

Posted on 07/06/2015 3:41:33 AM PDT by HomerBohn

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To: Gaffer

I have had watched for example channels such as FoxNews. Stays like it has been is for uncertain, now that Mr. Rupert has passed along the day to day stuff to his sons, whom I have heard are liberal.


21 posted on 07/06/2015 4:44:37 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: sauropod

Nah it’s perfectly fine to do that if we WIN! Us and Charlie Sheen! WINNING!!!

Kidding aside, I just cannot grasp how it is that so many people on the supposedly rightest of right wing websites who CLAIM to be God fearing and conservative, can sit here time and time again and hammer people to embrace ‘lesser’ evil, by name and hammer them for holding their principles as if that were bad.

That is the very definition of calling evil good and good evil.

Actually I get why they do it. They are evil themselves. But so many just throw reason to the wind and embrace that right along with them. That just shorts my brain out.

Logically that would indicate that most of us are in fact, genuinely evil. Any mother will tell you that you are the people you associate with. And if that is in fact the case...logic dictating it IS the case, then we are truly lost as a nation and as a people.


22 posted on 07/06/2015 4:50:03 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Biggirl

As a conservative, I’m pretty much discouraged by the slate of reasonable information outlets that are available. I don’t watch Fox any more and there isn’t a newspaper that I’d ever want to pickup, either.

If you couple that with the penchant for many conservative sites that do exist to trash up their sites with add-ons, extensions, ads, mouse over pop-ups and other annoying characteristics, the slate of offerings is pretty slim.


23 posted on 07/06/2015 4:53:03 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

Well there is a reason why conservative sites have adds on their sites and it is because they have to make money as well.

Got to remember that even this site have from what I have noticed, more fund rasing threads then ever before. Sites cost money.


24 posted on 07/06/2015 5:02:06 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: HomerBohn

How have we fallen so far?

It’s actually quite simple: The nation that turns away from God is turning away from His protection as well. There is NO political solution to where we are now. The nation must first turn back to God seeking to be holy as He is, and then pray for holy leaders. Until this takes place, we shall see FAR worse.


25 posted on 07/06/2015 5:06:57 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: HomerBohn
We are coerced into conformity and obeying the demands of “society.”

No we're not. We're seduced, not coerced. Nobody's forced to do much of anything. (With very few exceptions.)

For example, you're not forced to send your kids to public indoctrination camps, you do it willingly and say "it's free" or "my taxes paid for it, might as well." You aren't forced to strip on command for the TSA and pose for a picture too, you do it if you want to fly because you're in a hurry or it's cheaper. You file an income tax return because you like having $100k a year instead of $10k, you like that career, house, and stuff more than you like liberty, on balance.

It's all trade-offs and we are nearly all guilty to some degree. And therefore, collectively, we have the freedom (and lack of it) that we deserve, plus a heap of luxuries and privileges just like good conduct prisoners. Among our luxuries, we get to blame the other guy, any other guy, any bunch of other guys.

26 posted on 07/06/2015 5:26:08 AM PDT by Buttons12
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To: SumProVita

I agree.

What do you think the odds are of people that cannot admit they were wrong to themselves admitting it to God? There is another thread right now with a Freeper referring to evil as ‘shades of good’ to justify RINO actions on the Lerner issue. There is NOTHING they will do but embrace more evil.


27 posted on 07/06/2015 5:26:58 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

you are evil


28 posted on 07/06/2015 5:32:02 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... No peace? then no peace!)
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To: bert

I rest my case. The people spreading liberalism are good and someone pointing it out is evil.

Great worldview you got there sport.


29 posted on 07/06/2015 5:33:13 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: SumProVita

BTTT. A correct diagnosis of the problem, IMO.


30 posted on 07/06/2015 5:34:35 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: Norm Lenhart

You apparently didn’t get the memo....

today is you can declare any body evil with no rhyme nor reason except your own bias and sanctimony


31 posted on 07/06/2015 5:37:24 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... No peace? then no peace!)
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To: bert

I got your memo. The one that demanded we abandon conservative principles to elect evil two elections running. Take responsibility for your part in it Bert.

Be happy Bert. Happy, happy, happy. Don’t complain that your RINOs wont do anything but help evil. You elected them. Not me. I and other evil purists tried electing better people.

Principle isn’t sanctimony. Had you not abandoned yours, you’d know that.


32 posted on 07/06/2015 5:43:32 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Gaffer

What Paul Harvey said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSFaLUZ2rf4

A couple videos about how we got here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uHbLE8n6xE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIdBuK7_g3M


33 posted on 07/06/2015 6:04:49 AM PDT by polymuser ( Enough is enough)
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It is wonderful to read some of these posts.
"One day, a whole lot of someones simply decided that ‘lesser evil’ was just A-OK if it got them what they wanted. They stopped caring about what was good and chose what would win. Bot only in politics either." post #4 by Norm Lenhart

"Religion acts as a societies anti bodies. Homos are the virus. The viruses are winning. In a sense our society has AIDS."
post #10 by central_va

"It's all trade-offs and we are nearly all guilty to some degree. And therefore, collectively, we have the freedom (and lack of it) that we deserve, plus a heap of luxuries and privileges just like good conduct prisoners. Among our luxuries, we get to blame the other guy, any other guy, any bunch of other guys."
post #26 by Buttons12

To: Norm Lenhart
you are evil
post #28 by bert

To: bert
I rest my case. The people spreading liberalism are good and someone pointing it out is evil.
post #29 by Norm Lenhart


34 posted on 07/06/2015 8:19:54 AM PDT by Tomato lover (Jesus wants to give you forgivness, repent, accept Him as the risen Lord and be saved)
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To: Tomato lover

My last post would be unnecessary if this site had a “Like’ button. Hint, hint!


35 posted on 07/06/2015 8:20:46 AM PDT by Tomato lover (Jesus wants to give you forgivness, repent, accept Him as the risen Lord and be saved)
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To: HomerBohn
Our senses are so dulled with altruistic propaganda that we no longer have an imperative to inquire.

and TV "news" shows such as Crossfire and Hannity&Colmes taught us to never listen to the other side and think and maybe say "hmm, you've got a point there". No no, you stick with whatever your party's propaganda is, got it peon!?

36 posted on 07/06/2015 8:21:06 AM PDT by uncitizen (PC is lying, any way you look at it)
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To: HomerBohn

Is this the Bob Livingston who used to be a Congressman?


37 posted on 07/06/2015 4:24:37 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (The War on Drugs is Big Government statism)
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To: Clintonfatigued

No..


38 posted on 07/07/2015 4:46:27 AM PDT by HomerBohn (When did it change from "We the people" to "screw the people" ?)
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To: HomerBohn
Doesn't the current society, or for the last 20 years or so, think it impolite to talk politics or religion? I was advised by my mentor in Real Estate, when you have customers in your car its best not to talk politics or religion. I exclaimed, "those are my favorite subjects".

Why in the public square are we shushed when we bring up God or our Pres failures? I am stepping on the gas and will not let one person come before me in business or social without bringing up the subject of God, Jesus Christ and His salvation. I am itching to be silenced.

39 posted on 07/07/2015 6:55:51 AM PDT by thirst4truth (America, What difference does it make?)
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