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Time for Civil Disobedience, Christians
Townhall.com ^ | July 5, 2015 | Matt Barber

Posted on 07/05/2015 11:29:34 AM PDT by Kaslin

“Remember what I told you: ‘A servant is not greater than his master.’ If they persecuted me, they will persecute you also. If they obeyed my teaching, they will obey yours also.”

– John 15:20

The push back has begun. Christian business owners, lawyers, parents, judges, county clerks, organizations, universities, hospitals, adoption agencies and other individuals and groups have been given an ultimatum by five unelected, unaccountable liberals in Washington, D.C.: “You must now obey us and disobey God. You must pretend, with us, that sin-based same-sex ‘marriage’ is an actual thing.”

To which we say, “Not on your life.”

“Or our own.”

Absolute truth is a stubborn thing. Attempts at marital alchemy notwithstanding, the highly contentious, wholly contemptible 5-4 “gay marriage” opinion (and that’s all it is, an opinion) released last week by five pagan extremists in black robes is altogether illegitimate and should be treated as such.

From a moral, biological and legal standpoint, the court’s majority opinion in Obergefell v. Hodges is a complete farce. It’s an absurd missive, a bohemian word salad that was roundly, and rightly, condemned by the court’s four dissenting justices. “The Supreme Court of the United States has descended from the disciplined legal reasoning of John Marshall and Joseph Story to the mystical aphorisms of the fortune cookie,” mocked Justice Scalia.

These “five lawyers,” as Chief Justice John Roberts called them, can no more suspend the laws of natural marriage, than can they suspend the laws of gravity. “[D]o not celebrate the Constitution,” wrote Roberts. “It had nothing to do with it.”

This opinion, which has been branded “the Dred Scott of marriage,” has not changed, one iota, the fixed and immovable reality that the institution of marriage, an institution as old as mankind itself, is, and shall forever remain, centrally defined by its binary male-female requirement.

Indeed, as the four dissenting justices noted, the majority failed, at every level, from a precedential, historical, moral and, perhaps most importantly, a constitutional standpoint, to make the case for redefining marriage – something no man can do.

So how should we Christians react to this haughtiness – to this rebellion against God?

God’s word tells us how to react: “But Peter and the apostles answered, ‘We must obey God rather than men.’” (Acts 5:29)

Many of us have long warned that this day would come, and it has arrived. In the Spirit of Daniel the prophet and MLK the reverend, we Christians must now engage, as relates our peaceful response to the imposition of counterfeit same-sex “marriage,” in widespread civil disobedience. It’s the right thing to do. In fact, it’s a sin if we don’t. “So whoever knows the right thing to do and fails to do it, for him it is sin.” (James 4:17)

There are those who will prefer the path of least resistance and will cite, out of context, various Scriptures in order to avoid the possible persecution that may come as a result of obedience to God. For example: “Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God.” (Romans 13:1)

To be clear, under our constitutional republican form of government, “We the People” are “the governing authorities,” and our elected officials in Congress and the White House are the hired help. They are subject to us, and we are all subject to God, Who is the Final Authority.

These nine unelected, unaccountable justices on the U.S. Supreme Court are appointed and confirmed by the elected officials we hire to represent us. Five of the nine have now presumed to defy both the sovereign will of tens of millions of “We the People” who engaged the constitutional process and voted to defend the immutable definition of marriage, as well as, and more importantly, the sovereign will of God Almighty, the very Author of marriage itself.

Central to Christianity, and clearly delineated throughout both the Old and New Testaments, is the unambiguous and timeless proposition that any sexual practice outside the bonds of true man-woman marriage constitutes sexual immorality and results in separation from God. This, of course, includes sexual acting out between members of the same sex, whether or not such acting out is tied to the novel notion of so-called “same-sex marriage.”

So let’s see if we can make this abundantly clear. Christians, true Christians – regenerate, Bible-believing Christians who strive their level best to maintain fidelity to the word of God and honor His commands – will not, indeed cannot, participate in, approve of, facilitate or encourage certain behaviors deemed by the Holy Scriptures to be immoral or sinful. This is both our constitutionally affirmed human right and our Christian duty.

It is not so much that Christians wish, willy-nilly, to call homosexual behavior, polyamory, fornication, adultery, bestiality, incest or any other disordered sexual proclivity “sinful.” It is, rather, that we must. For the true Christian, God’s objective truths will always trump man’s subjective desires.

And so this opinion, let’s call it “Kennedy’s folly,” will result in, must necessarily result in, widespread civil disobedience – disobedience of the sort we haven’t seen since the civil rights struggles of the 1950s and ’60s.

For 2,000 years, whenever such conflicts have arisen, Christians have placed the laws of God above the laws of man.

What makes you think we’re about to change now?

As many in the early church refused to bow a knee to Caesar in worship, so, too, will many modern Christians refuse, under any circumstances, to obey any court opinion or man-made law that presumes to make sin obligatory.

If the ancient church, through the power of the Holy Spirit, was able to face the lions in hopeful anticipation of joining Jesus, then we, too, under the same Spirit, will face anything today’s pagan left can threaten.

In the ongoing culture war, it seems there are no rules of engagement. The secular left will accept nothing short of unconditional surrender. That is to say, the pagans demand that we Christians abandon the biblical worldview altogether, and adopt their own.

This will never happen.

In his “letter from the Birmingham jail,” Martin Luther King Jr. famously declared, “One has not only a legal, but a moral responsibility to obey just laws. Conversely, one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws.”

“A just law is a man-made code that squares with the moral law or the law of God,” he explained. “An unjust law is a code that is out of harmony with the moral law.”

An unjust law is, in point of fact, lawlessness.

One can imagine nothing more “out of harmony with the moral law,” than the twisted and oxymoronic notion of so-called “same-sex marriage.”

And so, Mr. Kennedy, our answer is no.

Come what may, we will not obey your unjust lawlessness.


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To: grumpygresh

....Or maybe even clean up the churches themselves.


81 posted on 07/05/2015 1:16:07 PM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Kaslin

How many NSA agents are reading this thread?


82 posted on 07/05/2015 1:17:13 PM PDT by donna (Polls are mob rule . . . faked.)
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To: huldah1776

Thank-you for the link and God Bless. :)


83 posted on 07/05/2015 1:17:30 PM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: donna

Frankly those so-called “NSA agents” are enjoying their July 4th holiday weekend to even bother to worry about reading threads online.


84 posted on 07/05/2015 1:19:06 PM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: IDontLikeToPayTaxes

What you have posted.


85 posted on 07/05/2015 1:19:58 PM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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86 posted on 07/05/2015 1:20:22 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: huldah1776

I wouldn’t disagree.

Do you have any idea what the appearance of 25% of Christians in the nation’s capital for two weeks would do to this nation’s leaders?

That would be the end of them ignoring Christian’s desires.


87 posted on 07/05/2015 1:21:52 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Conservatism: Now home to liars too. And we'll support them. Yea... GOPe)
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To: Biggirl
Yes I'm pretty sure. I've been watching the news the past few years and see how powerful Liberalism has become with very little challenge from the Right.

Have you been keeping up with current events? The Supreme Court legalized gay marriage the other day. Did you hear about that?

88 posted on 07/05/2015 1:22:27 PM PDT by IDontLikeToPayTaxes
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To: Kaslin

Just have all Christians go on work strike for a day - pick a holy day - and see how the atheists run the joint with their atheist “Christians”.

Lead up to it with a lot of activism and recruiting in all churches and in on the Internet. Demand the first amendment of the constitution is restored including the freedom of association and acknowledgement that Christians have the same rights - civil rights and constitutional rights as ever other group in America.

This will require a network of many groups; any group that wants to have a part of the constitution restored as well as freedom of thought and expression as a civil rights similar to what blacks have.

Everyone has to put Christ above money and freindships/popularity with humanists on the line for now and all Christians have to support them with money, legal and moral support. If - and that is a big IF - Christians stick together for their civil rights, and viciously defend those who are persecuted - in actions like this, liberals will be in the dog house promptly.

We have to take no more abuse from humanists at all and sue them, get them fired for violating the Christians’ civil rights and break the bigots to pieces. They will get violent and we’ll end up having to shoot some of them in self defense. We have to make it real dangerous to piss off the Christians in America.


89 posted on 07/05/2015 1:23:04 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: DoughtyOne
Still, you do hope that the best not worst of humanity will prevail

Sure....I think that hope is ingrained in most all of us, except for the severely depressed and suicidal.

I think that to go through life without it, would be very painful indeed.

90 posted on 07/05/2015 1:26:05 PM PDT by Cold Heat (For Rent....call 1-555-tagline)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

yeah.....I have heard similar stories..


91 posted on 07/05/2015 1:26:46 PM PDT by Cold Heat (For Rent....call 1-555-tagline)
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To: huldah1776
Poland did it. We can do it.

Have you been around the "average American" lately? Barely enough brain power to sustain basic life functions.

I don't think there's going to be any kind of Conservative revolution in America for a long, long time. Maybe a century.

Leftists have been working on these goals for that long: a century. Our side doesn't even realize how badly we've lost yet; and we have. We've absolutely lost. Everything. We certainly haven't come up with a game plan yet.

92 posted on 07/05/2015 1:27:24 PM PDT by IDontLikeToPayTaxes
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To: IDontLikeToPayTaxes

Yes I have heard about all that has gone on. Frankly right now the liberal side, which it is powerful, but you know what, its numbers are small than you realize.


93 posted on 07/05/2015 1:27:51 PM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Cold Heat

I agree.


94 posted on 07/05/2015 1:28:32 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Conservatism: Now home to liars too. And we'll support them. Yea... GOPe)
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To: IDontLikeToPayTaxes

I see a conservative backlash coming, not today or tomorrow but it is coming, mark my words.


95 posted on 07/05/2015 1:28:47 PM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Biggirl

“Yes I have heard about all that has gone on. Frankly right now the liberal side, which it is powerful, but you know what, its numbers are small than you realize.”

Correction: Its numbers are smaller and it claims to be powerful.


96 posted on 07/05/2015 1:29:51 PM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: hosepipe
Depends on whether you get caught throwing it..

True. Because a lot depends on who people think threw it. The Nazis burned the Reichstag and blamed it on the Commies so people would be furious at the Commies and give the Nazis the power to crush them (and everyone else).

It goes back to the fact that most civilians are just trying to get through the day safely. Bomb-throwers are seen as the enemy. That's why agents-provocateurs arrange for their enemies to be seen throwing the bombs.

The question you may be wondering is that, after agents of Leftist billionaires have been throwing so many literal firebombs in American cities, the uprising by normal people hasn't yet started. I say the lines between the thugs in the streets and the thugs in the suites need to be investigated and drawn, again and again until it sinks in. Spokesmen for Soros fronts seem to have been in place at virtually all the urban burn-downs of the past several years. Somebody needs to bust that connection wide open.

97 posted on 07/05/2015 1:31:38 PM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: IDontLikeToPayTaxes
Have you been around the "average American" lately? Barely enough brain power to sustain basic life functions

Yeah....sure have...met a neighbor for the first time yesterday. I made the comment that is was a pretty quiet fourth of July..he said yes it is.

I said that I believed it was a reaction to the supreme court and lack of action in Congress..

He said he hated politics and knew nothing about it..

So there ya go....the average American..

98 posted on 07/05/2015 1:33:11 PM PDT by Cold Heat (For Rent....call 1-555-tagline)
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To: vetvetdoug

No taxation without representation.
The THREAT of a widespread taxpayer revolt, even if only symbolic at first, would get their attention. But it would need to be well organized, with a few million signatures on petitions and pledges of support.
Lefties have been petitioning to recall Jindal for a couple of years now and it’s gone nowhere. I really do believe most people are on our side.


99 posted on 07/05/2015 1:35:45 PM PDT by mumblypeg (I've seen the future; brother it is murder. -L. Cohen)
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To: DoughtyOne

yesterday I checked the last census numbers and DC couldn’t hold that many. I think we should just sit around every federal building in our states and hold prayer, praise, and hymn vigals and that would get everyone’s attention.

Thing is, the only time I saw people get off the couch was the first tea party gatherings. Now they just slowly raise the temp of the pot instead of doing it all at once. Social psych.


100 posted on 07/05/2015 1:39:55 PM PDT by huldah1776
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