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Time for Civil Disobedience, Christians
Townhall.com ^ | July 5, 2015 | Matt Barber

Posted on 07/05/2015 11:29:34 AM PDT by Kaslin

“Remember what I told you: ‘A servant is not greater than his master.’ If they persecuted me, they will persecute you also. If they obeyed my teaching, they will obey yours also.”

– John 15:20

The push back has begun. Christian business owners, lawyers, parents, judges, county clerks, organizations, universities, hospitals, adoption agencies and other individuals and groups have been given an ultimatum by five unelected, unaccountable liberals in Washington, D.C.: “You must now obey us and disobey God. You must pretend, with us, that sin-based same-sex ‘marriage’ is an actual thing.”

To which we say, “Not on your life.”

“Or our own.”

Absolute truth is a stubborn thing. Attempts at marital alchemy notwithstanding, the highly contentious, wholly contemptible 5-4 “gay marriage” opinion (and that’s all it is, an opinion) released last week by five pagan extremists in black robes is altogether illegitimate and should be treated as such.

From a moral, biological and legal standpoint, the court’s majority opinion in Obergefell v. Hodges is a complete farce. It’s an absurd missive, a bohemian word salad that was roundly, and rightly, condemned by the court’s four dissenting justices. “The Supreme Court of the United States has descended from the disciplined legal reasoning of John Marshall and Joseph Story to the mystical aphorisms of the fortune cookie,” mocked Justice Scalia.

These “five lawyers,” as Chief Justice John Roberts called them, can no more suspend the laws of natural marriage, than can they suspend the laws of gravity. “[D]o not celebrate the Constitution,” wrote Roberts. “It had nothing to do with it.”

This opinion, which has been branded “the Dred Scott of marriage,” has not changed, one iota, the fixed and immovable reality that the institution of marriage, an institution as old as mankind itself, is, and shall forever remain, centrally defined by its binary male-female requirement.

Indeed, as the four dissenting justices noted, the majority failed, at every level, from a precedential, historical, moral and, perhaps most importantly, a constitutional standpoint, to make the case for redefining marriage – something no man can do.

So how should we Christians react to this haughtiness – to this rebellion against God?

God’s word tells us how to react: “But Peter and the apostles answered, ‘We must obey God rather than men.’” (Acts 5:29)

Many of us have long warned that this day would come, and it has arrived. In the Spirit of Daniel the prophet and MLK the reverend, we Christians must now engage, as relates our peaceful response to the imposition of counterfeit same-sex “marriage,” in widespread civil disobedience. It’s the right thing to do. In fact, it’s a sin if we don’t. “So whoever knows the right thing to do and fails to do it, for him it is sin.” (James 4:17)

There are those who will prefer the path of least resistance and will cite, out of context, various Scriptures in order to avoid the possible persecution that may come as a result of obedience to God. For example: “Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God.” (Romans 13:1)

To be clear, under our constitutional republican form of government, “We the People” are “the governing authorities,” and our elected officials in Congress and the White House are the hired help. They are subject to us, and we are all subject to God, Who is the Final Authority.

These nine unelected, unaccountable justices on the U.S. Supreme Court are appointed and confirmed by the elected officials we hire to represent us. Five of the nine have now presumed to defy both the sovereign will of tens of millions of “We the People” who engaged the constitutional process and voted to defend the immutable definition of marriage, as well as, and more importantly, the sovereign will of God Almighty, the very Author of marriage itself.

Central to Christianity, and clearly delineated throughout both the Old and New Testaments, is the unambiguous and timeless proposition that any sexual practice outside the bonds of true man-woman marriage constitutes sexual immorality and results in separation from God. This, of course, includes sexual acting out between members of the same sex, whether or not such acting out is tied to the novel notion of so-called “same-sex marriage.”

So let’s see if we can make this abundantly clear. Christians, true Christians – regenerate, Bible-believing Christians who strive their level best to maintain fidelity to the word of God and honor His commands – will not, indeed cannot, participate in, approve of, facilitate or encourage certain behaviors deemed by the Holy Scriptures to be immoral or sinful. This is both our constitutionally affirmed human right and our Christian duty.

It is not so much that Christians wish, willy-nilly, to call homosexual behavior, polyamory, fornication, adultery, bestiality, incest or any other disordered sexual proclivity “sinful.” It is, rather, that we must. For the true Christian, God’s objective truths will always trump man’s subjective desires.

And so this opinion, let’s call it “Kennedy’s folly,” will result in, must necessarily result in, widespread civil disobedience – disobedience of the sort we haven’t seen since the civil rights struggles of the 1950s and ’60s.

For 2,000 years, whenever such conflicts have arisen, Christians have placed the laws of God above the laws of man.

What makes you think we’re about to change now?

As many in the early church refused to bow a knee to Caesar in worship, so, too, will many modern Christians refuse, under any circumstances, to obey any court opinion or man-made law that presumes to make sin obligatory.

If the ancient church, through the power of the Holy Spirit, was able to face the lions in hopeful anticipation of joining Jesus, then we, too, under the same Spirit, will face anything today’s pagan left can threaten.

In the ongoing culture war, it seems there are no rules of engagement. The secular left will accept nothing short of unconditional surrender. That is to say, the pagans demand that we Christians abandon the biblical worldview altogether, and adopt their own.

This will never happen.

In his “letter from the Birmingham jail,” Martin Luther King Jr. famously declared, “One has not only a legal, but a moral responsibility to obey just laws. Conversely, one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws.”

“A just law is a man-made code that squares with the moral law or the law of God,” he explained. “An unjust law is a code that is out of harmony with the moral law.”

An unjust law is, in point of fact, lawlessness.

One can imagine nothing more “out of harmony with the moral law,” than the twisted and oxymoronic notion of so-called “same-sex marriage.”

And so, Mr. Kennedy, our answer is no.

Come what may, we will not obey your unjust lawlessness.


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To: Bob434
hmmm- that’s not How God explains it- 2 Chronicles 7:13-15New International Version (NIV) 13 “When I shut up the heavens so that there is no rain, or command locusts to devour the land or send a plague among my people, 14 if my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 15 Now my eyes will be open and my ears attentive to the prayers offered in this place.


Thanks for the copy and pasted Bible verses. Free Republic needs more copy and pasted Bible verses and irrelevant copy and pasted song lyrics.

Another poster here addressed that kind of thing about a week ago.

American Christians have developed this fatalistic outlook and have become completely passive about everything. They think that Jesus is going to swoop down and fix all our problems.

If that's the case, why bother voting, advocating for our culture, religion, or values, or do anything? Just stay at home all day and pray.

61 posted on 07/05/2015 12:49:15 PM PDT by IDontLikeToPayTaxes
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To: DoughtyOne

Churches like people have all the same human failings.


62 posted on 07/05/2015 12:49:58 PM PDT by Cold Heat (For Rent....call 1-555-tagline)
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To: IDontLikeToPayTaxes

Au contraire, we will not defeat the devil by stooping to his level.

Oh, we might manage to see a change in earthly regime, but only to discover the new boss is at heart the same as the old boss.


63 posted on 07/05/2015 12:50:46 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: IDontLikeToPayTaxes

You know they have the gall to actually believe in GOD and not in the flesh.

Crucify them then for being faithful unto death. If unrepentantly pursuing this tack, you will join the legions who are awaiting damnation.


64 posted on 07/05/2015 12:52:02 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: IDontLikeToPayTaxes
If that's the case, why bother voting, advocating for our culture, religion, or values, or do anything? Just stay at home all day and pray.

Huge straw man.

First, are you even Christian yourself. If not, then don't critique something you do not understand.

The prayer readies one to take action of the RIGHT kind when the Lord opens the RIGHT door. To take action of the WRONG kind is only to take Ambush B of Satan in preference to Ambush A.

65 posted on 07/05/2015 12:54:26 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Kaslin

The cure for liberalism is identical to the cure for Islam.

It will noy be pretty, but is very very necessary.

Gear up.


66 posted on 07/05/2015 12:56:12 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: griswold3
If Civil Disobedience fails, nullification is next.

I believe you have those ideas in the wrong order. Nullification is an acknowledged concept which is absolutely in order in this case. It should be the strategy of first resort.

67 posted on 07/05/2015 12:56:42 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("No social transformation without representation." - Justice Antonin Scalia)
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To: hosepipe

Jesus would say to you:” Put away your sword.” Paul didn’t pick up a sword to fight the decadence of Rome...instead he laid his neck on the block. Since this article is about a Chriatian response I suppose we should look to those who lived in similar times and faced similar circumstances. They obeyed God and gave their lives for it. True fear is not being willing to peaceably give up your life for your Lord but instead allowing your flesh to fight the battle.


68 posted on 07/05/2015 1:00:28 PM PDT by NELSON111
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To: Lake Living

Since our Constitution only serves as the law of a moral people, I do not see a return to it without spiritual revival.


69 posted on 07/05/2015 1:02:22 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: Cold Heat

Yes, hard to believe, but they’re all run by sinners.

I laugh at folks who think you’ll ever have a perfect police department, government, or any other entity considering the human component.

Still, you do hope that the best not worst of humanity will prevail.

And that’s what the United States is all about.


70 posted on 07/05/2015 1:08:58 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Conservatism: Now home to liars too. And we'll support them. Yea... GOPe)
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To: hosepipe

Not everyone can be in the infantry, FRiend. People must consider their own circumstances, and should be supported in whatever acts of resistance to tyranny they can muster. Not attacked and denounced as cowards.
I am a grandmother, for instance. Did you mean to call me a coward?

MLK , Gandhi, Lech Walesa,what weapons did they wield?
JPII and Ronald Reagan brought down the Berlin Wall.
It’s not an either/or proposition. Even in the midst of a a shooting war, civil disobedience or sabotage has its place. Was Oskar Schindler a coward?

The Son of God was the greatest revolutionary ever. Judas wanted Jesus to lead an army, betrayed Him because He didn’t. Yet history unfolded as planned.

As for me, I plan to do as much as I can, and work with others against the real enemy. I won’t be attacking potential allies like young parents who may not be Christian or conservative enough to suit some in this forum.
If it comes to a shooting war in my lifetime, I’ll be doing as much as I can to my last breath. Please don’t call me a coward.


71 posted on 07/05/2015 1:10:16 PM PDT by mumblypeg (I've seen the future; brother it is murder. -L. Cohen)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
You know they have the gall to actually believe in GOD and not in the flesh. Crucify them then for being faithful unto death. If unrepentantly pursuing this tack, you will join the legions who are awaiting damnation.

The whole point to the original article was that Christians need to start civil disobedience.

Several posters that replied said that it's not going to happen.

And I agree. Christians are NOT going to rise up. They're not going to do anything but have bake sales and prayer groups and then complain that they're losing their culture on internet forums.

That was my point. You and several others on this thread have beautifully proven my point. I see a lot of copy and pasted Bible verses and defenses of Christianity itself as if I was attacking it, but still no ideas to really DO anything.

That's why Christians and Conservatives lose and will continue to lose.

Naive, disorganized, passive.


72 posted on 07/05/2015 1:10:32 PM PDT by IDontLikeToPayTaxes
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To: Kaslin

God is judging America and he is using these wicked judges as his instrument. Apparently the churches have generally been lukewarm and some have notably capitulated and accommodated even before this decision came down.
The wheat and chaff will be separated and the the ways or the world and those of God will become more pronounced than ever. I believe that the Lord will give a little more time for people to leave the Laocedian churches to form their own home based “Acts” churches.


73 posted on 07/05/2015 1:13:01 PM PDT by grumpygresh (My real thoughts have been self censored.)
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To: IDontLikeToPayTaxes

Are you sure about that?


74 posted on 07/05/2015 1:13:04 PM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: humblegunner

Better to speak “broken English” than no English at all.

I have been around folks from other countries and I understand the English a whole lot better. :)


75 posted on 07/05/2015 1:14:17 PM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: NELSON111

During the Great Tribulation “If anyone is destined for captivity, to captivity he goes; if anyone kills with the sword, with the sword he must be killed. Here is the perseverance and the faith of the saints.” Rev 13:10

Those who are killed during this time are resurrected and rule with the Messiah during His reign over the earth. It’s a choice as to whether you want to live under His reign and have kids, etc, or die fighting.

Being willing to die for your loved ones, warriors or infants, is the greatest love.


76 posted on 07/05/2015 1:14:19 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Oh, and if kooks like you actually attacked Liberals as vigorously as you just attacked ME, we might stand a chance. Won’t happen, though.


77 posted on 07/05/2015 1:14:36 PM PDT by IDontLikeToPayTaxes
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To: Biggirl

Are you sure about that?

Sure about what?


78 posted on 07/05/2015 1:15:09 PM PDT by IDontLikeToPayTaxes
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To: Kaslin; hosepipe; who_would_fardels_bear; DoughtyOne; DoodleDawg; Bob434; Paulie; Cedar; ...

Poland did it. We can do it.

http://chnm.gmu.edu/1989/exhibits/solidarity-comes-to-power/introduction


79 posted on 07/05/2015 1:15:18 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: Kaslin

I’m seriously ticked at our minister after today’s sermon. I had steam coming out of our ears. He waved the white flag, basically.


80 posted on 07/05/2015 1:15:24 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (I'm fed up.)
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