Posted on 07/04/2015 10:19:30 AM PDT by Engraved-on-His-hands
For many opponents of same-sex marriage, the fight has just started.
While supporters of marriage equality celebrate the supreme court’s historic decision in Obergefell v Hodges, advocates for traditional marriage have redoubled their efforts to influence policymakers. But the fight takes place in an unfamiliar political landscape, one where gay marriage has become the law of the land and one of the traditional benchmarks of the social conservative cause has been rendered meaningless.
No matter how ardently Republican candidates for president in 2016 proclaim that they believe marriage is between one man and one woman, the supreme court has ruled differently. So the issue for social-conservative voters is what to do now and how to tell whether candidates are sincere on the issue, and determined to fight it, or just “checking a box” with an intent to leave it alone.
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I think the gay marriage issue is settled and saying you’re against it is easy because no political activity will reverse it and is meaningless because corporate elites and the judiciary will block any countermoves to protect the First Amendment rights of those opposed to gay marriage.
What makes gay marriage an awful thing are the First Amendment implications. We have already seen Brendan Eich lose his job as CEO of Mozilla for opposing gay marriage and Atlanta Fire Chief Kevin Cochran losing his job for off the job comments related to his religious faith over homosexuality.
This week the Oregon Commissioner of Labor fined the Christian bakery owners 135-thousand bucks and told them to not speak about the case anymore.
I don’t think the Republicans care a fig about the tyranny being imposed because of how the “Conservative Christian Republican” Governors Mike Pence of Indiana and Asa Hutchinson backed away from religious freedom laws to protect religious people from LGBT attack earlier this year.
Those guys were afraid of the major corporations opposing the religious freedom laws and they backed down plain and simple.
With respect, the hell it is.
It was settled when Christian marriage was outlawed, by 1975 at the latest.
Making noise about gay marriage is one thing. I choose to make noise about the persecution and prosecution of those who oppose gay marriage and the failure of Republican politicians to protect First Amendment religious freedom in this country.
F the Guardian. Hey, you bloody limeys, Happy Independence Day mates!
Any Republican that caves on this is dead to me.
I don’t think the public is as at ease with this SCOTUS ruling as the Left is trying to tell us they are.
I do not think this is over. An appointment or two, a revisit on this, adios celebration...
I never understand some things:
1. When did it become cool to be gay?
2. How did homosexuals get so.much power?
3. When did liberals decide to embrace homosexual marriage and why? If you go back and check the vote on the Defense of Marriage Act in 1996, you will see that many liberals were willing to say that marriage was a man and a woman. Believing that was mainstream and non controversial then. Now that belief gets you tarred and feathered.
4. Why do the criteria for the legal views change? In 2013 the Supreme Court ruled that marriage was to be defined by the states. So the federal government had to recognize homosexual marriage from states which allowed it. But now in 2015, the criteria are now reversed, and now each state must allow homosexual marriage because now marriage is defined st the federal level not the state level. States no longer are allowed to define marriage. Why did the criteria change and what is the legal justification.??? Was this contradiction addressed in the recent court case, or do liberals really not care about legal procedures and legal justification or consistency in legal reasoning???
The real question is whether we will continue our downward spiral. Or was this an overreach which will cause the pendulum to swing back at least for a little while.
Senate “leader” McConnell mumble something about law of the land, nothing can be done.
Sounds quite like people said after Roe. vs Wade as well. However I do realize the difference in that people have a choice to abort or not..... This ruling now doesn’t offer choice it’s law.
It is law at the current time.
As long as this sick deviancy stands, America is dead to me. No more flying the flag, no more support, no more allegiance, no more lifting a finger for this nation. As long as this country continues to wallow and celebrate such depravity and outright evil, my interest in its preservation is absolutely nil.
Certainly no first amendment issue with Eich. The government had nothing to do with him losing his job.
I thought Congress could overturn a SCOTUS decision by legislation and a vote? Am I wrong?
He was forced out for exercising his right of free speech as defined in the campaign finance case decision of SCOTUS when Eich financially supported Proposition 8 in California.
Calling same sex, sex, marriage, is like calling a drug addict a pharmacist and then putting the “Pharmacist” in charge of the ATF.
But he wasn't forced out by any government.
It will stand. It will be built upon so that anything at all goes. With the coerced universal availability of abortion there is no Marxist reason to ban any sort of coupling at all, man or beast or any sort of prior relationship notwithstanding.
No.you are not wrong.
But since this ruling is that there is a constitutional right to homosexual marriage , it would tskens constitutional amendment to override this. That won’t happen.
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