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1 posted on 06/30/2015 7:25:06 AM PDT by xzins
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If this is all about ‘feelings’, as Judge Kennedy has declared, then what in the world is anyone doing licensing ‘feelings’. Let individuals come up with their own contracts: 5 years, 10 years, visitation, property, etc.


2 posted on 06/30/2015 7:25:20 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray for their victory or quit saying you support our troops)
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I was a career preacher for nearly 30 years and my "denomination" (we actually considered ourselves to be non-denominational) had specific criteria marriage couples had to satisfy before I'd perform a wedding.

If a minister already has refused to marry some couples (maybe their marriage history disqualifies them?), I don't think he could be prosecuted for discrimination if he declines to perform a wedding for a couple fags.

3 posted on 06/30/2015 7:28:22 AM PDT by LouAvul (Liberalism: much more than just a mental illness)
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It seems to me that secession would be the only way around it at this point.


4 posted on 06/30/2015 7:31:30 AM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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I wish the several states would turn this into a Constitutional crisis that would lead to a divorce.


5 posted on 06/30/2015 7:37:08 AM PDT by rigelkentaurus
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Well, if they are serious they could use the Andrew Jackson precedent and just ignore it. Someone has to say no to the playground bully.


8 posted on 06/30/2015 7:45:12 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Lex rex)
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Well, if they are serious they could use the Andrew Jackson precedent and just ignore it. Someone has to say no to the playground bully.


9 posted on 06/30/2015 7:45:14 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Lex rex)
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How about all the AG’s and governors.of.the red states get together and hammer out a common response instead of individual states coming out with uncoordinated disjointed haphazard responses, which make it easy for the Obozo dictatorship to pick off? A massive coordinated refusal to abide by the ruling of a lawless SCOTUS will seem to be the ticket. Let no Obama created crisis go to waste. Raise it to the next level and use the crisis to launch a counterattack.
12 posted on 06/30/2015 7:46:19 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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Ted Cruz has already offered a sound solution.

Ted Cruz: States should ignore gay-marriage ruling

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/ted-cruz-gay-marriage-ruling-reaction-npr-interview-119559.html

15 posted on 06/30/2015 7:49:48 AM PDT by VideoDoctor
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This situation reminds me of my thoughts on gay marriage. Initially, I felt it was no skin off my nose if two gays got married. I reasoned my marriage was still valid and real, how could someone else’s marriage diminish MY marriage?

Then I compared gay marriage to a $100 bill. In my mind a gay marriage is a counterfeit marriage—it's not really a marriage. In that sense gay marriage is a counterfeit $100 bill. If I'm holding a genuine $100 bill my bill still has value (it's going down in value every day, but that's another story). If a community is flooded with counterfeit $100 bills eventually all businesses will stop accepting ALL $100 bills, and my genuine $100 bill is now worthless.

Marriage is losing its value to many of today's younger heteros, flooding the market with counterfeit marriage can only accelerate that trend.

17 posted on 06/30/2015 7:52:52 AM PDT by Auntie Dem (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Terrorist lovers gotta go!)
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Stop Homo Marriages can be done by:

1. Pass a Constitutional Amendment

3/4 States (38) need to approve amendment.
26 amendments have been passed by this method.
This approach can be done but it will take time.
Homo’s represent less than 4% of the population and there are less than 100,000 Homo marriages.

2. Passage of a congressional bill.

Bills are currently being drafted to block Homo marriages. This is a faster method but will face many road blocks

3. State Marriage application Blood tests.

Most States have implemented blood tests for marriage applications. If disease is found than block the marriage license applications. This is a temporary fix, but a time limit can be placed on the application.


19 posted on 06/30/2015 7:54:12 AM PDT by hapnHal (hapnHal)
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Just act like progressives.

1. Ignore it.
2. Protest....violently, if necessary. After all, certain people who have cereal box top degrees in “eddikation” bombed things and got away with it.
3. Make liberal judges quake in their homes and worry about keeping lights on at night.
4. Fire EVERY teacher possessing only a worthless education degree and require teachers to have actual working knowledge in their fields. This does not necessarily mean a college degree. After all, Dorkbama has a degree and he couldn’t hold a real McDonald’s job.

Treat them as they have treated us.


20 posted on 06/30/2015 7:54:15 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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The states and the people need to understand a few things:

1) The states MUST understand it is their RIGHT and their DUTY to reject and nullify unconstitutional federal acts which by definition are acts of tyranny. The Constitution supports such state action against unconstitutional federal acts in the Supremacy Clause (Art VI, Cl 2) and confirmed by the 9th and 10th Amendments.

2) The feds have effectively nullified the Constitution by ignoring it, invalidly changing it, and rejecting it. But the Constitution doesn’t belong to the feds. It is pointed directly AT the feds to limit and constrain them. That is why the feds hate the Constitution becasue it is the only legal bulwark of freedom against federal tyranny.

3) The Constitution belongs to the states and to the people and is on their side and it stands opposed to any federal act outside the specific, enumerated, and LIMITED powers delegated to the the feds by the states. Since the feds have effectively abandoned the Constitution and its constraints on them, it is now up to the states to stand against the unconstitutional portion of the feds, which is about 80% of what they do.

4) This is a battle for freedom and the Constitution which protects it against federal tyranny and is not unlike the same battle 250 years ago against the tyranny of King George. The American People through their states must be bold and brave to stand up for THEIR freedom and THEIR Constitution against the feds.

5) YOU DON’T NEED FEDERAL PERMISSION TO STAND AGAINST INVALID AND UNCONSTITUTIONAL FEDERAL ACTS. The Constitution and ONLY those federal acts in compliance with it is the supreme Law of the Land (Art VI, Cl 2). When the feds step outside their constitutional constrains, IT IS YOUR CONSTITUTION, NOT THE FEDS, THAT HAS THE FINAL SAY.


27 posted on 06/30/2015 8:31:18 AM PDT by Jim W N
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[[Southern States Search for Ways around Gay Marriage Ruling]]

Gee- Here’s a way REFUSE to perform gay marriages- grow a spine! Form a coalition with other states REFUSING top perform gay marriages! Stop the friggin ca;pitulations and compromising!


33 posted on 06/30/2015 8:55:21 AM PDT by Bob434
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Isolate & polarize


35 posted on 06/30/2015 9:07:53 AM PDT by Ray76 (Obama says, "Unlike my mum, Ruth has all the documents needed to prove who Mark's father was.")
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