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Time for Conservatives to go on the Offensive in the Framing Wars
Townhall.com ^ | June 29, 2015 | Rachel Alexander

Posted on 06/29/2015 7:14:26 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 06/29/2015 7:14:26 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
I asked a liberal colleague whether his position stemmed from ignorance or apathy.

He said, "I don't know and I don't care, but you're racist."

2 posted on 06/29/2015 7:24:26 AM PDT by cincinnati65
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You’re a racist AND a hater! HA


3 posted on 06/29/2015 7:30:28 AM PDT by gattaca (Republicans believe every day is July 4, democrats believe every day is April 15. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Kaslin

If “offensive” means the normal limp-wristed mamby-pamby idiocy coming out of the GOP, screw it.

If it means civil disobedience to the point of making liberals afraid in their homes, then do it, dammit. They did it to us, and we should return the gesture with interest.

This is war, and sooner or later, it will have to be done. Nothing else will stop the slime that is liberalism.


4 posted on 06/29/2015 7:33:19 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Kaslin
Use their OWN rules against them.

How tolerant, diverse, and inclusive are they toward Christians? Call them out on it!

How tolerant, diverse, and inclusive are they about those who believe in self defense for themselves and their families againt those who hate? Call them out on it!

How tolerant are they toward white people? Do they still believe in diversity and inclusiveness? Call them out on it!

Do they speak words of hate against any right wing group? Is that still not hate speech directed toward anyone who's different than them? Is hate still not hate? It certainly isn't love and compassion. Call them out on it!

THEY made these rules. Use them!!

5 posted on 06/29/2015 7:36:26 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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The left also had some success last week demonizing the right as racist over the Confederate flag controversy. But in reality, the Confederate flag is the legacy of Democrats, right up through recent years, and they should have been held accountable for the racism. Where were conservatives? Too busy apologizing to engage in the framing war.

Yeppers, just like what I have been stating. This whole notion of getting rid of this flag is totally misplaced - SYMBOLISM OVER SUBSTANCE. If we are going to do something with substance, we should ban the political Party that upheld slavery without apology.

It is the Democrat Party that has this heritage of hate. No Republican EVER held slaves - ONLY DEMOCRATS. The Democrat Party has NEVER apologized for slavery! If we are going to ban anything meaningful because of slavery - BAN THE DEMOCRAT PARTY !!!

6 posted on 06/29/2015 7:41:35 AM PDT by celmak
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To: Kaslin

Identify a victim.

Identify a villain.

Create one when one does not actually exist.

That pattern has worked for decades.


7 posted on 06/29/2015 7:41:50 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Kaslin
It's a hate crime to attack a person based on their religion.
I didn't write that law. The left did.
USE IT!!!
8 posted on 06/29/2015 7:42:56 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: concerned about politics

Right on


9 posted on 06/29/2015 7:43:57 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: celmak

All of this is factual and they cannot deny any of it


10 posted on 06/29/2015 7:45:44 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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Unless and until the right uses the same measures/means, they will continue to lose.

Notice how quickly an individual or group pushing a political correct agenda items backs down when confronted and challenged immediately and directly.

Without the immediate challenge, the pc leftists gain in the arena of public opinion.

As for lies, how does one defend one's self from lies? The more one protests that the lie is a lie, the more one appears to be a liar. The left knows that and that is why the lie is so effective. How does one defend one's self when one is accused, for example, of being called a racist?


11 posted on 06/29/2015 7:52:21 AM PDT by TomGuy
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” It’s known as the “framing war,” and Republicans aren’t very good at it,”

Boy - that’s an understatement!


12 posted on 06/29/2015 7:54:38 AM PDT by aquila48
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To: celmak
It is the Democrat Party that has this heritage of hate. No Republican EVER held slaves - ONLY DEMOCRATS. The Democrat Party has NEVER apologized for slavery! If we are going to ban anything meaningful because of slavery - BAN THE DEMOCRAT PARTY !!!

Which is why the democrats are using this crises to erase THEIR history (never waste a good crises).

If the blacks knew it was the democrat party that fought for FOR slavery in the south, were the KKK, and fought AGAINST civil rights, the democrats would lose a massive voting block.

By removing the democrats history of racism and slavery , the blacks will never find out who they really are.

Today, the blacks can't see who's keeping them locked up in inner city cages. They don't see who's keeping them from being educated. They don't see who's killing their babies. Because of that, if the blacks want their monthly brick of government cheese, they think (or have been taught) they have to appease their masters by voting democrat.

The democrats are STILL keeping the blacks on their democrat plantations - impoverished, uneducated, bred like animals, and strictly controled. (Imagine the fall out if the blacks found out it was Lincoln who started the REPUBLICAN party!)

13 posted on 06/29/2015 7:58:14 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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We should start a thread to keep track of suggestions for what to call various groups. Here are my offerings. I’m sure all the clever FReepers out there can provide a lot of additional, better alternatives. The best ones will capture the essence of the leftwing lie and throw it back in their face.

Lefty climate kooks: Carbon credit scammers. Climate-obsessed kooks.

Pro-abortionists: Baby dismemberment advocates.

“Gays”: Butt sex fans.

Affirmative Action pushers: Racists who claim that blacks (or whatever group) are too incompetent to compete.


14 posted on 06/29/2015 7:58:31 AM PDT by generally (Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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The “opposition” leadership is in bed with the left.

The movement to stop this will not come from them, and will, in fact, be obstructionist.

All the party politics is nothing more than window dressing to cloak the steady march of the one world government.

We are allowed to occasionally rejoice over some favorable “ruling” like the EPA ruling, but the main issues are not in our favor.

There is no watchdog press.

They are going to regulate our rights to assemble, in person or electronically, so that we cannot form an effective opposition.

We are monitored, we are investigated, we are medicated, and controlled in all of the aspects of our life.

Exactly what scenario overrules the power elite of Washington and the world?


15 posted on 06/29/2015 7:59:10 AM PDT by LachlanMinnesota
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To: concerned about politics

Well stated!


16 posted on 06/29/2015 8:02:02 AM PDT by celmak
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To: concerned about politics

Yes


17 posted on 06/29/2015 8:05:08 AM PDT by expat2
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To: TomGuy
As for lies, how does one defend one's self from lies?

Instead of going on the defense and trying to deny their lies, why not ask them to explain why they believe what they believe?

It's a nice, polite way to get them to "prove it." If it's the truth, their explanation will prove it. If it's a lie, their explanation will prove that, too.

For example, WHY did Harry Reid believe Romney didn't pay his taxes? We'd like to know more. What other info does he have other than one single opinion of a ghost person? Please, Harry, we'd love to know more about Romney's taxes. There needs to be more to this story than what you're saying. Keep talking! Tell us how this ghost found out what he knows. What expertiese does he have when it comes to taxes? More, more, more! We have question! Lots of them. If Romney disn't pay his taxs, we need to know much, much, more so we can get all this out in the open. Help us do that, Harry.
Surely, Harry, the opinion of one man certainly isn't enough to convict what could be an very honest man. Could you please gather just a little more information about this so we can understand why you're saying what you're saying? Thanks!



18 posted on 06/29/2015 8:16:43 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Kaslin

Every issue of the left needs to be framed in the context of the fact that everything they impose on the rest of us is with a gun in the face.

It matters not that they are not holding the gun, they are authorizing and condoning the gun in the face of their neighbor.

Libs derive their self righteousness through “caring”, which consists of advocating that the government make other people “care” - at gunpoint.


19 posted on 06/29/2015 8:16:44 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: generally
We should start a thread to keep track of suggestions for what to call various groups. Here are my offerings.

The shock factor does work, but wears off quickly. You'll catch more bees with honey than you will with vinegar.

Instead of attack - use the left's OWN RULES against them.

If you change the language, you change the debate.

Abortion - saving the lives of children (Who can oppose that?)

Homosexuality - Speak often using the words Mother and father, healthy and disease free, children being able to play outside without fear (Who can oppose these things! who can argue against wanting these things?)

Climate - Natural cycles of the earth, undefeatable nature, diversity of the planet (Who could hate these things? Who would not find comfort in these words?)

20 posted on 06/29/2015 8:31:23 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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