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Self | 6/26/'15 | Zionist Conspirator

Posted on 06/26/2015 12:35:53 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator

I know I haven't been very active lately. Part of this is because the news is so unceasingly bad all the time that I simply must take breaks to keep from giving in to despair. But here are my thoughts on the implicit connection between two current raging headlines.

In all but outlawing the rebel flag and all things Confederate, the Left is intentionally pushing buttons and trying to create a conflict. I understand how angry FReepers are, but I have read posts by FReepers saying they will now fly the rebel flag instead of the American flag (the Charleston killer burned an American flag, btw, which is bad when "Blacks and Hispanics" do it).

Just as the rebel flag goes up in all conservative areas of the country (and the American flag goes down), comes this decision by the Supreme Court. The Left will gleefully point out that opposition to homosexual marriage is strongest in these "Confederate" strongholds and that this proves that the religious prohibition of homosexuality is a creation of "racist white Europeans," who created it for their own oppressive purposes (yadda yadda yadda). Any actual armed conflict between the two areas of the country will be declared to be a "renewal" of the Civil War, with the Union's job "not complete" until "heterosexism" is put down just as slavery was.

Now I don't hate the rebel flag. I don't see it as the emblem of everything good and true and beautiful like so many do, but I don't hate it nor do I identify it with the swastika--and this even though my own ancestors were Southern Unionist Republicans (and no one is more anti-Confederate than a Southern Unionist!).

I'm not even pretending to tell anyone what to do, but I beg you to think for just a moment and at least not use the rebel flag to replace the American flag. I believe this is just what they want to happen.

NOW--Just as all other FReepers, I am furious and disappointed with the Black church because it still refuses to recognize that these issues even exist. Instead, forever stuck in 1954, the Black church insists on being a quasi-ally of the nihilistic revolution currently ongoing all around us. And while early generations of Black liberals might have been able to plead ignorance of these other issues (which weren't even issues at the time), they cannot do so now. They cannot claim to be unaware of what their "hero" has done to this country and to simple basic G-d-commanded morality. Hence if anyone is looking to turn the Left's own tactics against them and do more than just fume and vent and develop hatred (or identify morality with European genes and chromosomes, as so many are beginning to do), then here's a nice little tactic to try:

Pairs of male "rednecks" should alert the media and pay calls on Black churches and pastors demanding to be married. Let's see what happens when one strand of the Hegelian dialectic runs smack into another.

Oh, and by the way, as part of the "thesis of history" (rather than the antithesis), you will notice that, just like moslems, Black churches and Black chrstians have been and will remain exempt from any and all penalties or revenge by homosexuals. Similarly, when we are all required to renounce our religious beliefs in order to receive Social Security or Medicaid, I do not anticipate them being asked to make that choice. Being Black is "naughty" and "rebellious" enough, apparently.

I've always wanted to see the "heels" go at it.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: cwii; dialectic; homosex; rebelflag
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1 posted on 06/26/2015 12:35:53 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator
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To: wideawake; KC_Lion

Ping for your thoughts.


2 posted on 06/26/2015 12:36:39 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The "end of history" will be Worldwide Judaic Theocracy.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Displaying the Confederate flag is an act of defiance to
the federal leviathan.

That is why the elite establishment does not like it,
and it is why they and the media try to portray it as something else.


3 posted on 06/26/2015 12:42:00 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (I was conceived in liberty, how about you?)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Are you referring to the Confederate Battle Flag when you say “rebel” flag?

If I for one don’t hold it as all that is pure and true. I revere it because of the brave men and boys that fought, got wounded and died under it. I honor it for their sacrifice for something they believed in - right or wrong. How many keyboard commandos would fight and possibly die under the Gadsden flag today?


4 posted on 06/26/2015 12:43:14 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: Zionist Conspirator
What Civil War?

There was no "Civil War"

Only a brief period in our History known as "unpeace"

5 posted on 06/26/2015 12:43:48 PM PDT by KC_Lion (PLEASE SUPPORT FR. Donate Monthly or Join Club 300! G-d bless you all!)
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To: Repeal The 17th

Whatever people may choose to fly, for the life of me I can’t understand why any patriotic American would fly the US flag today. It is nothing but a symbol of post-Christian paganism, Bolshevism, and affirmative action.


6 posted on 06/26/2015 12:44:45 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Zionist Conspirator; PGalt; onyx; Sarah Barracuda; GeronL; Army Air Corps
26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as “normal, natural, healthy.”

27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with “social” religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a “religious crutch.”

28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of “separation of church and state.”

32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture—education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.

40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.

41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.

http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm

7 posted on 06/26/2015 12:45:57 PM PDT by KC_Lion (PLEASE SUPPORT FR. Donate Monthly or Join Club 300! G-d bless you all!)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Why can’t all Whites just decide that we are actually Black - after all, if a guy can decide that he’s really a she, why can’t the same be done for something less significant like skin color? Besides, we’re all “from Africa” - so we’re ALL African-Americans (at least those of us who are citizens.

Oh, and guys should all declare that they are lesbians - men trapped in women’s bodies, but who are attracted to women. Women can do the mirror image thing.

The Leftist position on so many things is so anti-science, so illogical, so counter to anything related to common sense that it is internally inconsistent...so let’s take advantage of that.


8 posted on 06/26/2015 12:46:15 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
I have read posts by FReepers saying they will now fly the rebel flag instead of the American flag

I haven't seen those, and I've been following the issue pretty closely. I've seen posts where people say they are tempted to fly it instead, but none stating that anyone WAS going to do so.

In any event, I have not flown the 50-Star U.S. flag at my house in more than 9 years. I fly the Revolutionary War-era "Grand Union" flag instead. I will proudly return to flying the 50-Star flag when people who respect it and our Constitution are once again in control of the federal government.

Based on events this week, though, I'd better stay stocked up on the ol' Grand Union flag.

9 posted on 06/26/2015 12:47:32 PM PDT by WayneS (Yeah, it's probably sarcasm...)
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To: Repeal The 17th
I am working up a design for a flag that can mean whatever you want it to mean:

I hope it does not look too much like the Bonnie Blue Flag.
10 posted on 06/26/2015 12:50:25 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (I was conceived in liberty, how about you?)
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To: Repeal The 17th

Bonnie Blue was my first thought, even before reading you hoped it didn’t look like it.


11 posted on 06/26/2015 12:58:57 PM PDT by Roos_Girl (The world is full of educated derelicts. - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: KC_Lion

“41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.”

I’m surprised the left hasn’t latched on to this one more. With all the dysfunctional families they’ve created and the rampant misbehavior by ghetto teens, it wouldn’t be difficult for them to claim that that is proof that the family unit does not do a good job at raising kids and that in fact it is a detriment to society and that it is better for the state to raise kids.

They can also use the “egalitarian” argument and say that kids born to rich families have an “unfair advantage” and the state needs to step in and level the playing field for all the kids to have “equal opportunity” by removing them from their parents at birth.

I expect to see such arguments cropping up in the not too distant future.


12 posted on 06/26/2015 1:03:14 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: Zionist Conspirator

The conflict has been a long time coming. There is no avoiding it at this point.


13 posted on 06/26/2015 1:09:55 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Repeal The 17th; All
Displaying the Confederate flag is an act of defiance to the federal leviathan.

That is why the elite establishment does not like it, and it is why they and the media try to portray it as something else.

Believe me, I understand your position. Unfortunately, the Left will then conflate opposition to the federal leviathan with slavery and the federal leviathan as the only things protecting Blacks from being re-enslaved.

No comments on the suggestion of turning the Left's on tactics against them? From anyone???

14 posted on 06/26/2015 2:07:37 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The "end of history" will be Worldwide Judaic Theocracy.)
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To: kearnyirish2; WayneS
I have not flown the 50-Star U.S. flag at my house in more than 9 years.

Whatever people may choose to fly, for the life of me I can’t understand why any patriotic American would fly the US flag today. It is nothing but a symbol of post-Christian paganism, Bolshevism, and affirmative action.

Does that mean there will be no more objections to the burning of the American flag?

I've always wanted a Grand Union flag but have never found one. I do have a Betsy Ross flag.

15 posted on 06/26/2015 2:11:28 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The "end of history" will be Worldwide Judaic Theocracy.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

“...turning the Left’s on tactics against them...”
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I am not clear as to what you are proposing.


16 posted on 06/26/2015 2:21:22 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (I was conceived in liberty, how about you?)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Try here:

http://carrot-top.com/item/grand-union-flags


17 posted on 06/26/2015 2:23:32 PM PDT by WayneS (Yeah, it's probably sarcasm...)
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To: Repeal The 17th
I am not clear as to what you are proposing.

You didn't read my original post?

Show up at Black churches and demand to be "married," and if they refuse sue them into the stone age. Let's see how Black churches (who have always been exempt from liberal wrath) like a little of what rednecks have been getting.

18 posted on 06/26/2015 2:25:10 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The "end of history" will be Worldwide Judaic Theocracy.)
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To: WayneS
Wow! Thank you for the link.

Unfortunately, we moved four years ago to one of these new houses with no wood anywhere on the outside, so I can't even fly the flags I have.

19 posted on 06/26/2015 2:26:36 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The "end of history" will be Worldwide Judaic Theocracy.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

My philosophy on flag burning is simple:

If I see someone burning a flag which THEY legally own, I will find it offensive, and I will not associate with that person, but I will not try to stop them.

If I see someone trying to take one from a public flag pole to burn it I will try to stop them.

If I see someone trying to take one from MY flagpole, I WILL stop them.


20 posted on 06/26/2015 2:31:00 PM PDT by WayneS (Yeah, it's probably sarcasm...)
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