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Homegrown Radicals More Deadly Than Jihadis in U.S.
NYTimes ^ | June 24, 2015 | SCOTT SHANE

Posted on 06/24/2015 7:46:27 AM PDT by PROCON

WASHINGTON — In the 14 years since Al Qaeda carried out attacks on New York and the Pentagon, extremists have regularly executed smaller lethal assaults in the United States, explaining their motives in online manifestoes or social media rants.

But the breakdown of extremist ideologies behind those attacks may come as a surprise. Since Sept. 11, 2001, nearly twice as many people have been killed by white supremacists, antigovernment fanatics and other non-Muslim extremists than by radical Muslims: 48 have been killed by extremists who are not Muslim, compared with 26 by self-proclaimed jihadists, according to a count by New America, a Washington research center.

The slaying of nine African-Americans in a Charleston, S.C., church last week, with an avowed white supremacist charged with their murders, was a particularly savage case. But it is only the latest in a string of lethal attacks by people espousing racial hatred, hostility to government and theories such as those of the “sovereign citizen” movement, which denies the legitimacy of most statutory law. The assaults have taken the lives of police officers, members of racial or religious minorities and random civilians.

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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks PROCON.
Since Sept. 11, 2001, nearly twice as many people have been killed by white supremacists, antigovernment fanatics and other non-Muslim extremists than by radical Muslims: 48 have been killed by extremists who are not Muslim, compared with 26 by self-proclaimed jihadists, according to a count by New America, a Washington research center.
Not counting the thousands of victims of black-on-white crimes, mass-murders carried out by imams on military bases, and massacres by drug gangs.
41 posted on 06/24/2015 2:53:03 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW)
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To: PROCON

What a tool of an author. Racism is equal to people that want believe in the Constitution and our soverignty?

Go to hell ahole.


42 posted on 06/24/2015 2:54:39 PM PDT by Fledermaus (NO RINO 2016 or I stay home. Shove it FR RINO lovers.)
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To: Paladin2
"The Storm Roofer was a TEA Party member?"

Yeah, like Joker Boy and the Newtown Martian!

Interesting, that psychiatrists chose three such interesting and unusual characters to play with. Psychiatrists prescribe drugs, too. The judicial system information blackouts were also interesting. Maybe some psychiatrists have interesting backgrounds and/or philosophies. Maybe some of them even have a peculiar affinity for comic book characters.

Another thing... Con artists have also been known to have a tendency toward being flamboyant in their approaches.


43 posted on 06/24/2015 4:00:34 PM PDT by familyop ("Baxters over there, Rojos there, and me right in the middle" ("A Fistful of Dollars").)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
Because the FBI is focused on Jihadists—a much greater threat than right-wing radicals—they have been able to stop potential attacks by Muslim radicals before they occur.

I don't think the FBI have been slackers in monitoring US racialist groups.

It's more a matter of Islamist attacks involving more than one person, even if it's just one person lecturing another about jihad. There's a trail of communications and connections the feds can uncover.

With non-Muslim terrorists it's more a matter of "lone wolf" attacks. There isn't even the flimsiest coordination involved, so it's much harder to discover plans and prevent attacks.

What will probably happen now, is the feds will look at traffic on racist sites in the same way they now look at Islamist chatter, if they're not doing it already.

44 posted on 06/24/2015 4:10:37 PM PDT by x
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To: proton; SunkenCiv; davius; Paladin2; caver; Blue Jays; exnavy; keat; Don Corleone; Oratam; ...
The "count" and "study" came from the following. Read closely.

New America Foundation
Wikipedia
Funding
New America receives funding from both the private and public sector. Seventy percent of its financing comes from private companies and individuals, while the rest comes from public institutions, including the U.S. government.[citation needed]

The list of organizations and individuals that supported New America in 2013 includes more than 140 contributors. The top donors, giving more than $1,000,000 each, were the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, the Lumina Foundation, Eric and Wendy Schmidt, and the US Department of State.[22]


45 posted on 06/24/2015 4:13:55 PM PDT by familyop ("Baxters over there, Rojos there, and me right in the middle" ("A Fistful of Dollars").)
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To: familyop

Thanks familyop!


46 posted on 06/24/2015 4:40:31 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW)
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To: Don Corleone

Muslims are the NYT’s hitmen for murder of Christians by proxy. That’s why they love them some Muslims.


47 posted on 06/24/2015 4:59:46 PM PDT by ecomcon
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To: familyop

wow


48 posted on 06/24/2015 5:04:29 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: SunkenCiv; GeronL

You’re welcome! Please pass the information around.


49 posted on 06/24/2015 5:15:06 PM PDT by familyop ("Baxters over there, Rojos there, and me right in the middle" ("A Fistful of Dollars").)
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To: familyop

many of the leftist “foundations” also get tax dollars


50 posted on 06/24/2015 5:24:32 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: SunkenCiv; GeronL

Feel free to pass the comment about funding for the organization around. And if you want to copy and paste the HTML for that and have a fairly new version of the Firefox browser,...

1. Make sure that you’re looking at browser page with the comment that you want to copy.

2. Look at the menu at the top of your browser. Go to “Tools,” “Web Developer,” then click “Page Source.”

3. Another window should pop up with the page source in it. Up in the menu, follow “Edit” then “Find.”

4. Enter the keywords, “receives funding” without the quotes.

5. Copy the HTML around that (starting with the b with angle brackets around it, just before the Wikipedia link above your keywords) and paste into the comment text box for posting here...or paste wherever.


51 posted on 06/24/2015 5:31:21 PM PDT by familyop ("Baxters over there, Rojos there, and me right in the middle" ("A Fistful of Dollars").)
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To: PROCON

They sure are:
Bill Ayers, Barak Obama, Valerie Jarret, Eric Holder, Elena Kagan, Loretta Lynch ...and the beat goes on...

Saul Alinsky’s 12 Rules for Radicals
Here is the complete list from Alinsky.

* RULE 1: “Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have.” Power is derived from 2 main sources – money and people. “Have-Nots” must build power from flesh and blood. (These are two things of which there is a plentiful supply. Government and corporations always have a difficult time appealing to people, and usually do so almost exclusively with economic arguments.)
* RULE 2: “Never go outside the expertise of your people.” It results in confusion, fear and retreat. Feeling secure adds to the backbone of anyone. (Organizations under attack wonder why radicals don’t address the “real” issues. This is why. They avoid things with which they have no knowledge.)
* RULE 3: “Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy.” Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty. (This happens all the time. Watch how many organizations under attack are blind-sided by seemingly irrelevant arguments that they are then forced to address.)
* RULE 4: “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.” If the rule is that every letter gets a reply, send 30,000 letters. You can kill them with this because no one can possibly obey all of their own rules. (This is a serious rule. The besieged entity’s very credibility and reputation is at stake, because if activists catch it lying or not living up to its commitments, they can continue to chip away at the damage.)
* RULE 5: “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions. (Pretty crude, rude and mean, huh? They want to create anger and fear.)
* RULE 6: “A good tactic is one your people enjoy.” They’ll keep doing it without urging and come back to do more. They’re doing their thing, and will even suggest better ones. (Radical activists, in this sense, are no different that any other human being. We all avoid “un-fun” activities, and but we revel at and enjoy the ones that work and bring results.)
* RULE 7: “A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag.” Don’t become old news. (Even radical activists get bored. So to keep them excited and involved, organizers are constantly coming up with new tactics.)
* RULE 8: “Keep the pressure on. Never let up.” Keep trying new things to keep the opposition off balance. As the opposition masters one approach, hit them from the flank with something new. (Attack, attack, attack from all sides, never giving the reeling organization a chance to rest, regroup, recover and re-strategize.)
* RULE 9: “The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.” Imagination and ego can dream up many more consequences than any activist. (Perception is reality. Large organizations always prepare a worst-case scenario, something that may be furthest from the activists’ minds. The upshot is that the organization will expend enormous time and energy, creating in its own collective mind the direst of conclusions. The possibilities can easily poison the mind and result in demoralization.)
* RULE 10: “If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive.” Violence from the other side can win the public to your side because the public sympathizes with the underdog. (Unions used this tactic. Peaceful [albeit loud] demonstrations during the heyday of unions in the early to mid-20th Century incurred management’s wrath, often in the form of violence that eventually brought public sympathy to their side.)
* RULE 11: “The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative.” Never let the enemy score points because you’re caught without a solution to the problem. (Old saw: If you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the problem. Activist organizations have an agenda, and their strategy is to hold a place at the table, to be given a forum to wield their power. So, they have to have a compromise solution.)
* RULE 12: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions. (This is cruel, but very effective. Direct, personalized criticism and ridicule works.)


52 posted on 06/24/2015 5:38:06 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: Chickensoup

The important thing for our side is to find a way to fight against this effective, evil system.


53 posted on 06/24/2015 5:41:32 PM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: Teacher317

The best way to fight this system is to use it and reflect it back onto them.


54 posted on 06/24/2015 5:54:54 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: familyop

The ‘count’ also started AFTER 9/11 Dropping the THREE THOUSAND AMERICANS KILLED BY RADICAL MUSLIMS lowed their numbers.

I believe the ‘count’ for white men - was 48 .... Since 9/11 white domestic terrorists have killed 48 people.

That number is LESS than the number of murders last WEEK by black domestic terrorist - as known as black gangs.


55 posted on 06/24/2015 5:55:12 PM PDT by GOPJ (Press called for banning rainbow flag after train 'incident' in Philadelphia? Didn't happen...)
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To: SunkenCiv
Not counting the thousands of victims of black-on-white crimes, mass-murders carried out by imams on military bases, and massacres by drug gangs.
56 posted on 06/24/2015 5:57:58 PM PDT by GOPJ (Press called for banning rainbow flag after train 'incident' in Philadelphia? Didn't happen...)
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To: demshateGod
It won’t matter that Muslims are both a small %, and that the study ignored about 34 murders.

The 'study' STARTED THE DAY AFTER 9/11 - - that means they 'ignored' the deaths of over THREE THOUSAND AMERICANS KILLED ON 9/11

57 posted on 06/24/2015 6:05:04 PM PDT by GOPJ (Press called for banning rainbow flag after train 'incident' in Philadelphia? Didn't happen...)
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To: PROCON

I was quoting the article.


58 posted on 06/24/2015 7:08:49 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (I'm very sad for my country. Personally, I've never been happier.)
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To: GOPJ
Look at what happened, while we were distracted by issues like this.

Republican-led Congress hands Obama major win on trade
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3303896/posts


59 posted on 06/24/2015 7:20:11 PM PDT by familyop ("Baxters over there, Rojos there, and me right in the middle" ("A Fistful of Dollars").)
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To: familyop

Will do.


60 posted on 06/24/2015 9:16:49 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW)
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