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The Confederate Battle Flag
RedState ^ | June 22nd, 2015 | Erick Erickson

Posted on 06/22/2015 4:25:24 PM PDT by iowamark

The Bible tells me to love my neighbor. I have a number of black friends and I do not know any of them who would feel comfortable coming into my house if I were flying the Confederate battle flag. So I don’t. In fact, in my life, the people I can think of who proudly fly the Confederate battle flag outside their homes are people in whose yards, let alone houses, I would not feel comfortable.

I think if a Christian is to love his neighbor, he cannot fly a flag that so many of his neighbors associate with the defense of slavery. I agree with my friend Russell Moore in that, but I disagree in that I do think there are places that the Confederate flag is appropriate. I think it is appropriate at Confederate soldiers’ cemeteries. I think it is appropriate at Confederate memorials and museums. Frankly, considering a majority of citizens in Mississippi, both black and white, voted to keep it on their state flag, I think it is appropriate there. Mississippi, unlike many Southern states, put the Confederate battle flag on their state flag shortly after the Civil War, not in protest in the 1950’s and 60’s.

Outside of those locations, I don’t think it is appropriate. You, like many of my friends and family, may think the Confederate battle flag is a symbol of heritage, not hate. But for millions of black Americans, it is a very real symbol of oppression.

I’m afraid, though, that we are about to see a run on Confederate battle flags. Someone is going to make a tidy profit.

The only people I know who grumble and dwell on the flag are busy-body academics and people who don’t live in the South who have a low opinion of the region with or without the flag. The response, in the South, has been a reinforcement that others are bigoted toward the South and that the flag really does represent heritage, not hate — a heritage a bunch of racist1, northern white liberals want to stamp out. I have more than one relative, as do most white Southerners, who has a battle flag with “Heritage Not Hate” written in proximity to it. You and I can roll our eyes at this, but it is pervasive.

And now, because a bunch of mostly white yankees are again yelling about the battle flag, we’re not going to see a flag and tradition die out. Instead, we’re going to see a bunch of twenty and thirty-something Southerners go out and buy fresh flags as a middle finger to the Northern white liberals who did not like them without the flag. The Sons of Confederate Veterans are probably getting recruiting material ready as we speak.

I have found that less and less people of my generation and younger are fixated on race or care about it. The yards in which the battle flag fly typically belong to old racists of generations rapidly dying out. But in politicizing what happened in Charleston and demanding that the Confederate Battle Flag be removed by government action, the only thing that is going to happen is a run on the flags. It’s just like with gun control. The moment a bunch of liberals start making sounds like they want to take guns, second amendment fans run out to buy new ones.

I think the people of South Carolina can decide for themselves whether or not to take down the battle flag.

I think compromising with the left on this issue is not worth it because the left is only politicizing this issue to advance their agenda. Consider the attacks by leftists on Republican politicians, including Governor Rick Perry of Texas, shortly after the Charleston attack without a word about Gov. Perry and then Attorney General Greg Abbott blocking the Sons of Confederate Veterans from getting a personalized license plate in Texas. Or consider the attack on Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) 100% from the Huffington Post that he kinda sorta maybe indirectly possibly championed a law that kinda sorta if you looked at it cross eyed gave support to the flag.

Once the flag is gone, the left will advance to the next issue then the next issue, etc. They won’t compromise. There is no compromise. There is only conversion or censorship with the left.

But I also think if you proudly fly the Confederate battle flag and call yourself a Christian, you need to ask yourself how you are being a good neighbor to the black family down the street, next door, or on the other side of town whose ancestors were enslaved under that flag and whose parents or grandparents faced down white men in the streets waving that flag as an act of rebellion against voting rights.

None of this really matters though. Because the issue is now politicized, you might as well buy stock in companies that produce the Confederate battle flag. They’re going to get a lot of orders from people who equate raising the stars and bars with raising the middle finger toward liberals up north.

1. Most Southerners, regardless of race, learn very early on that the North has all the racism of the south and none of the awareness of the issue. In fact, I’m aware of a public school teacher who, when teaching about desegregation, points out that the Kennedy family was all in favor of desegregating Southern schools, but not their own. That sort of statement is pervasive in the South.↩


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To: manc

Freepmail


101 posted on 06/23/2015 4:10:16 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ( ((("This is a Laztatorship. You don't like it, get a day's rations and get out of this office."))))
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To: Liberty Valance

Interesting, isn’t it?


102 posted on 06/23/2015 4:10:46 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ( ((("This is a Laztatorship. You don't like it, get a day's rations and get out of this office."))))
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To: manc

Thanks and replied with a smile on my face.


103 posted on 06/23/2015 4:49:36 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Vermont Lt

The thi9ng is that there are buried soldier there though correct me if I am wrong.

Nothing wrong with those wanting to remember their history and remember their ancestors.


104 posted on 06/23/2015 4:51:08 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: babble-on

He opened by mentioning the Bible.

“love thy neighbor” BY PUTTING THE JACKBOOT OF POLITICAL CORRECTNESS ON THEIR NECKS, FOREVER!!!!!!

That is the column in a nutshell.


105 posted on 06/23/2015 4:54:37 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: babble-on

Has he called for banning Muslim symbols or not


106 posted on 06/23/2015 4:55:17 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: manc

I think there is a memorial there. Whether or not their are soldiers buried there or not, I do not know.


107 posted on 06/23/2015 5:26:48 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Vermont Lt

OK thanks for the info


108 posted on 06/23/2015 5:29:33 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: SgtBob

Erie was an American owned and crewed ship. Her Captain, the owner, was born in the State of Maine. Of course it was illegal for Americans to engage in the slave trade. But it was done. The slaves on the Erie were bound for Cuba.


109 posted on 06/23/2015 8:17:13 PM PDT by X Fretensis
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To: Pelham

You deliberately misconstrued my post. Try again.


110 posted on 06/23/2015 8:28:35 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: Pelham
Are you seriously saying that a bad paraphrase of Jefferson and Madison should actually be taken as the words of Jefferson and Madison themselves?

Do you even understand how making a rational argument works?

111 posted on 06/23/2015 8:33:07 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: Pelham; IrishBrigade
That's so oblique it doesn't even qualify as a sidestep.

Fact: the same state legislatures that voted to secede were the state legislatures that demanded the Fugitive Slave acts.

The Democrats didn't passively accept their passage - they championed them and demanded ever stricter enforcement.

The Resolutions were flawed from the beginning: the Constitution Madison wrote says that the acts of the state legislatures are subordinate to federal law, not the other way around.

That's why the final Kentucky resolution admitted that Kentucky would obey federal law while reserving its ability to complain about it, and the Virginia resolution effectively did the same.

112 posted on 06/23/2015 8:52:26 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake

Then try this on for size, genius:

“The following resolutions were proposed to the Kentucky Legislature, and this version was adopted on November 10, 1798, as a protest against the Alien and Sedition Acts passed by Congress. They were authored by Thomas Jefferson, but he did not make public the fact until years later. This represents one of the clearest expressions of his views on how the Constitution was supposed to be interpreted.
The Kentucky Resolutions of 1798

1. Resolved, That the several States composing, the United States of America, are not united on the principle of unlimited submission to their general government; but that, by a compact under the style and title of a Constitution for the United States, and of amendments thereto, they constituted a general government for special purposes — delegated to that government certain definite powers, reserving, each State to itself, the residuary mass of right to their own self-government; and that whensoever the general government assumes undelegated powers, its acts are unauthoritative, void, and of no force: that to this compact each State acceded as a State, and is an integral part, its co-States forming, as to itself, the other party: that the government created by this compact was not made the exclusive or final judge of the extent of the powers delegated to itself; since that would have made its discretion, and not the Constitution, the measure of its powers; but that, as in all other cases of compact among powers having no common judge, each party has an equal right to judge for itself, as well of infractions as of the mode and measure of redress...”


113 posted on 06/23/2015 9:21:46 PM PDT by Pelham (The refusal to deport is defacto amnesty)
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To: oldfart

Not true.
South Carolina’s declaration was written about losing our way of life ( slavery).
They sent delegations to the as yet undeclared States to convince them that their way of life was threatened


114 posted on 06/23/2015 11:50:20 PM PDT by South Dakota
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To: South Dakota
Not true.
South Carolina’s declaration was written about losing our way of life ( slavery).
They sent delegations to the as yet undeclared States to convince them that their way of life was threatened

Hmm. Well that's...

Wow.

Jesus Christ: You can’t impeach Him and He ain’t gonna resign.




115 posted on 06/24/2015 3:23:31 AM PDT by rdb3 (THY KINGDOM COME!)
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To: central_va

Who is Jesey boy?


116 posted on 06/24/2015 3:32:01 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: The_Reader_David

Well, when you can control what other people do, maybe you can pass on to others tips on how to get that done.

Let us know when the Westboro baptists stop using the cross and when the KKK stop using the American flag.

Not being snarky, just pointing out how some things are easier said than done.


117 posted on 06/25/2015 4:02:30 AM PDT by DrewsMum
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