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Video: Cameron angers British Muslims after challenging them to do more to fight radicalization
Hotair ^ | 06/19/2015 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 06/19/2015 11:10:50 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

The continuing movement of young Muslims from the UK to ISIS in Syria and Iraq has David Cameron concerned to the point of demanding more action from Muslim communities to fight radicalization. In a speech today, Cameron accused British Muslim leaders of “quietly condoning” the radical theology of ISIS and other Islamist terror groups. In response, leaders from those communities said that radicalization has been amplified by “rampant Islamophobia” in British society, and that Cameron needs to stop lecturing them on citizenship:

Speaking at a security conference in Slovakia, Cameron urged British Muslims to do more to stop the group from recruiting young Britons. He said disaffected youths are being drawn to an ideology that believes “the West is bad and democracy is wrong, that women are inferior, that homosexuality is evil.”

Saying this ideology “is quietly condoned” among some Muslims, Cameron blamed radicalization in part on “people who hold some of these views who don’t go as far as advocating violence, but who do buy into some of these prejudices, giving the extreme Islamist narrative weight.” …

Some Muslim groups reacted to Cameron’s comments with anger. Mohammed Shafiq, chief executive of Muslim think-tank the Ramadhan Foundation, called them “deeply offensive.”

“We do not need a lecture about being good citizens from a government that thinks the way to build alliances with the Muslim community is to trash us,” he said.

Not all of the Muslim leaders in the UK agree. The head of an anti-radicalization group Inspire, Kalsoom Bashir, says Cameron’s correct. Some of the Muslim leaders in the UK do sympathize with and even envy those who are slinking off to join the terrorist army. This isn’t a fringe of the community any longer, Bashir warns. Another anti-radical think tank leader says anger in the Muslim community towards Cameron is misplaced anyway:

Haras Rafiq, managing director of anti-extremism think tank the Quilliam Foundation, said he didn’t see the speech as anti-Islam.

“He is not saying that all Muslims are the problem,” Rafiq said. “He is saying the Islamist ideology needs to be tackled.”

This has an odd but interesting parallel to the debate currently surrounding the Charleston shooting. Several commentators have claimed that people are quick to point the finger at Muslims for any act of terror, but in the case of the kind of racial hatred displayed by Dylann Roof, that gets treated as a one-off. The problem with that argument is that it ignores the difference between a single deranged individual acting on his own, and a movement that is recruiting thousands from around the world to either come to the battleground in Syria/Iraq or commit violence in the name of a self-proclaimed Islamic Caliphate. Timothy McVeigh would actually be a closer parallel to the latter, with his repeated efforts to find like-minded individuals to commit violent action against the US. But even McVeigh belonged to no mainstream political movement or even any a few degrees off plumb; he was in essence a nut with only a few accomplices.

Getting back to the issue in the UK, it seems unlikely that the main driver of radicalization is “Islamophobia.” Thanks to the nature of the former British empire, there have been substantial numbers of Muslims in Great Britain for many years. Only when radicalization and global terrorism began to impact the West did fears of radicalization occur — and it’s hardly a “phobia” (which means an irrational fear) to worry about the expansion and impact of that radicalization. If that has become a “rampant” concern, then perhaps the communities where this recruitment takes place should look to themselves first rather than demand that everyone stop being concerned on the basis of assumed victimhood.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: britain; davidcameron; eurabia; europeanunion; muslims; nato; religionofpieces; slovakia; terorrism; unitedkingdom; waronterror
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1 posted on 06/19/2015 11:10:50 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

CLICK ABOVE LINK FOR THE VIDEO


2 posted on 06/19/2015 11:11:19 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Deport all imams back to where they came. For National Security reasons.


3 posted on 06/19/2015 11:11:59 AM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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The fact that the Muslims are offended by someone asking them to stand against extremism tells me that they support extremism.


4 posted on 06/19/2015 11:13:27 AM PDT by MeganC (You can ignore reality, but reality won't ignore you.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Damn moderate muslims.


5 posted on 06/19/2015 11:13:40 AM PDT by umgud (When under attack, victims want 2 things; God & a gun)
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To: SeekAndFind

ya , It’s not the Muslims ,it’s their Masters the Imams


6 posted on 06/19/2015 11:14:12 AM PDT by molson209 (Blank)
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The moderate muslim stands behind the extremist doing the beheading and cheers.


7 posted on 06/19/2015 11:14:29 AM PDT by Crazieman (Article V or National Divorce. The only solutions now.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Islam” doesn’t mean what he thinks it means.


8 posted on 06/19/2015 11:14:57 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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“We do not need a lecture about being good citizens... “

Said the robot that is part of a religion that constantly lectures the entire planet.


9 posted on 06/19/2015 11:17:19 AM PDT by navyguy (The National Reset Button is pushed with the trigger finger.)
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"The fact that the Muslims are offended by someone asking them to stand against extremism tells me that they support extremism."

Yep. Their reaction proves Cameron's point.

10 posted on 06/19/2015 11:17:25 AM PDT by circlecity
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What's Cameron talking about?

How can Islamists submit to essential elements of advanced cultures and not be apostates obligating them to kill one another?

Silly man that Cameron.

11 posted on 06/19/2015 11:22:28 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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12 posted on 06/19/2015 11:22:30 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Yes, fear of Islam is MAKING them become terrorists.


13 posted on 06/19/2015 11:23:38 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (A free society canÂ’t let the parameters of its speech be set by murderous Islamists.)
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Religion of Perpetual Outrage


14 posted on 06/19/2015 11:23:51 AM PDT by PROCON (CRUZing into 2016 with Ted.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The conclusion is obvious and demands IMMEDIATE action.


15 posted on 06/19/2015 11:33:58 AM PDT by Amagi (Lenin: "Socialized Medicine is the Keystone to the Arch of the Socialist State.")
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Cameron angers British Muslims after challenging them to do more to fight radicalization by not being muslim

Fixed.

16 posted on 06/19/2015 11:40:28 AM PDT by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell)
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It should be policy that if you don’t stand up to jihad, you’re presumed to support it and therefore subject to deportation.


17 posted on 06/19/2015 11:46:35 AM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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What he and most liberals don’t understand is that RADICALIZATION is the ‘NORM’.....................................


18 posted on 06/19/2015 11:51:56 AM PDT by Red Badger (Man builds a ship in a bottle. God builds a universe in the palm of His hand.............)
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Alternate title:

Moderate Muslims Enraged That Cameron Criticizes Radical Muslims!

19 posted on 06/19/2015 11:58:05 AM PDT by TigersEye (If You Are Ignorant, Don't Vote!)
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LOL.


20 posted on 06/19/2015 12:01:04 PM PDT by Mr. N. Wolfe
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