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190 Republicans who voted to ignore 2/3 vote requirement for trade treaty (TPP)
6-18-15 | johnwk

Posted on 06/18/2015 4:02:50 PM PDT by JOHN W K


CLICK HERE for the list of House Republicans who spat upon our Constitution today and ignored its expressed requirement for a two thirds approval vote for any deals cooked up by our president with foreign powers. In effect, these Republicans have unconstitutionally lowered the two thirds requirement to a simple majority to approve deals consummated by our president with foreign powers and engaged in the same despotic action the President has engaged in when signing Executive Orders that violate statutory law and/or our Constitution’s written provisions.

These Republican turncoat and lying scoundrels tell us that the Pacific Rim deal is not a treaty and therefore they are not required to observe the two thirds approval required by our Constitution for a treaty. But their lie is exposed when recalling the words of our founders with regard to the meaning of a treaty as they used and understood the word. So, what is meant by a “treaty” as expressed by our Founders?

In
Federalist No. 64 Jay defines a treaty as a “bargain” . He writes:

”These gentlemen would do well to reflect that a treaty is only another name for a bargain, and that it would be impossible to find a nation who would make any bargain with us, which should be binding on them ABSOLUTELY, but on us only so long and so far as we may think proper to be bound by it.”


And in
Federalist No. 75 Hamilton tells us with reference to a treaty, Its objects are CONTRACTS with foreign nations, which have the force of law…”

Finally, In
Federalist No. 22 Hamilton talks about “a treaty of commerce” as follows:

”A nation, with which we might have a treaty of commerce, could with much greater facility prevent our forming a connection with her competitor in trade, though such a connection should be ever so beneficial to ourselves.”

The irrefutable fact is, the
Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) Free Trade Agreement falls within the meaning of a treaty as the word was used and understood by our founding fathers, and as such, requires a two thirds vote to become an enforceable contract, or bargain with the nations involved.

Our founding fathers, who lived under a despotic King, were fearful of creating an omnipotent president when framing our Constitution, and they carefully limited his powers significantly by a number of provisions in our Constitution, one being the two thirds vote requirement as mentioned above for treaties. And to give an example of how much our founders feared an omnipotent president, they even refused giving the President Line-Item Veto Power! And with respect to the reasons for this denial of power to the president, Benjamin Franklin, on June 4th of the Constitutional Convention reminds the delegates how they suffered under that power. He says:

'”The negative of the governor was constantly made use of to extort money. No good law whatever could be passed without a private bargain with him. An increase of salary or some donation, was always made a condition; till at last, it became the regular practice to have orders in his favor on the treasury presented along with the bills to be signed, so that he might actually receive the former before he should sign the latter. When the Indians were scalping the Western people, and notice of it arrived, the concurrence of the governor in the means of self-defense could not be got, until it was agreed that the people were to fight for the security of his property, whilst he was to have no share of the burdens of taxation.''

So, here we are today, and instead of our Republican members in the House being loyal to their oath of office, they reject a constitutional provision designed to insure there is a substantial support for any deals made by our president with foreign powers before they can become enforceable law. Not only have these 190 Republicans violated their oath of office, but they have engaged in a despotic act of tyranny!

We have been amply warned in THE OLD GUARD, A MONTHLY JOURNAL DEVOTED TO THE PRINCIPLES OF 1776 AND 1787, that:

"When a free people submit to oppressive acts, passed in violation of their constitution, for a single day, they have thrown down the palladium of their liberty. Submit to despotism for an hour and you concede the principle. John Adams said, in 1775, Nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud. It is the only thing a people determined to be free can do. Republics have often failed, and have been succeeded by the most revolting despotisms; and always it was the voice of timidity, cowardice, or false leaders counseling submission, that led to the final downfall of freedom. It was the cowardice and treachery of the Senate of Rome that allowed the usurper to gain power, inch by inch, to overthrow the Republic. The history of the downfall of Republics is the same in all ages. The first inch that is yielded to despotism __ the first blow, dealt at the Constitution, that is not resisted is the beginning of the end of the nation’s ruin."

BTW, here is the list of Senate Republicans who are acting in concert with the above mentioned Republican House members who are working to circumvent our written constitution and its documented legislative intent:

Alexander, Tenn.; Ayotte, N.H.; Barrasso, Wyo.; Blunt, Mo.; Boozman, Ark.; Burr, N.C.; Capito, W.V.; Cassidy, La.; Coats, Ind.; Cochran, Miss.; Corker, Tenn.; Cornyn, Texas; Cotton, Ark.; Crapo, Idaho; Cruz, Texas; Daines, Mont.; Ernst, Iowa; Fischer, Neb.; Flake, Ariz.; Gardner, Colo.; Graham, S.C.; Grassley, Iowa; Hatch, Utah; Heller, Nev.; Hoeven, N.D.; Inhofe, Okla.; Isakson, Ga.; Johnson, Wis.; Kirk, Ill.; Lankford, Okla.; McCain, Ariz.; McConnell, Ky.; Moran, Kan.; Murkowski, Alaska; Perdue, Ga.; Portman, Ohio; Risch, Idaho; Roberts, Kan.; Rounds, S.D.; Rubio, Fla.; Sasse, Neb.; Scott, S.C.; Sullivan, Alaska; Thune, S.D.; Tillis, N.C.; Toomey, Pa.; Vitter, La.; Wicker, Miss.

JWK


" I believe that there are more instances of the abridgement of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachment of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." ___ Madison Elliot`s Debates, vol. III, page 87


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 114th; fasttrack; pacificrim; tpp; trade; treason
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To: Defiant
A majority cannot vote away the constitutional right of the 1/3 to nix a treaty.

Bingo.

41 posted on 06/18/2015 4:38:35 PM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: JOHN W K

42 posted on 06/18/2015 4:39:24 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited (specifically) to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: vette6387
You know I just don't understand why Ted votes for this.

Maybe he didn't go into the room and read it?

Oh and David Vitter, I'm looking at you too.
What the heck are you thinking?
43 posted on 06/18/2015 4:39:31 PM PDT by novemberslady
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To: JOHN W K

The silver lining is that Cruz has lost my support and has gone from top to the bottom of the list of rino running Presidential candidates. Scratch his name.


44 posted on 06/18/2015 4:40:00 PM PDT by kindred (Save yourselves from this evil and untoward generation. Jesus is Lord and Saviour .)
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To: kindred

The silver lining is that Cruz has lost my support and has gone from top to the bottom of the list of rino running Presidential candidates. Scratch his name.


I wouldn’t go that far. I could see myself voting for Cruz over Hillary.

But his vote to enable Obamatrade & actions after have reduced 99% of my enthusiasm for his candidacy.

It’s clear now there is no White Knight arriving to rescue us from RINOS and Demofascists. It’s clear now the next GOP POTUS will at best manage the decline of this great country because the beltway GOP simply have no interest in defending our Constitutional rights against the rampaging marxists and corportists. I wish it was otherwise but it isn’t.


45 posted on 06/18/2015 4:46:40 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: kindred

Because of one issue...

he still beats the rest of them


46 posted on 06/18/2015 4:46:46 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: JOHN W K

The Republicrats want that voting threshold at 51. Easier to betray the American people.


47 posted on 06/18/2015 4:47:42 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: JOHN W K

The US middle class was completely sold out to big business and the United Nation decades ago. This is nothing new. The decline and fall of America marches on, right on schedule. Your great-grandchildren will have no clue what freedom is.


48 posted on 06/18/2015 4:49:58 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Lord God help us.)
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To: Thank You Rush

Odd I know. But, that was the actual vote. Dunno, if it is a house Clerk issue or something else.


49 posted on 06/18/2015 4:51:38 PM PDT by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
Sadly correct.

This treason treaty will flood the YS will more overseas slave labor and kill us off.

50 posted on 06/18/2015 4:53:25 PM PDT by ncalburt ( Amnesty-media out in full force)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Revelation 17:17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree * , and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled .

A tribulation verse that represents the giving over of power to the anti Christ who will destroy all religious institutions on the earth before entering the temple in Israel to declare himself God. This event is near mid tribulation and will usher in the remaining 14 of the 21 judgements of the wrath of God on the earth during the last 3 1/2 years of said tribulation. The 7 year tribulation will end when the Lord Jesus Christ with His holy angels and raptured saints will descend to destroy the anti Christ and all the remaining armies of the earth as they gather to destroy Israel, the land and people that God in the person of Jesus the Christ will rule and reign over all the earth from His throne.
Interesting fact of Scripture teaching is how God will use the anti Christ to destroy the cult religions represented by the woman who rides on the beast which is the false church left behind at the rapture.


51 posted on 06/18/2015 4:53:34 PM PDT by kindred (Save yourselves from this evil and untoward generation. Jesus is Lord and Saviour .)
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To: Thank You Rush

Just when we think we might have had a little clarification on this whole mess, you link us to what? An amendment to the Internal Revenue Code - penalty free withdrawals from government pension plans?


It’s a shell bill. The exact same maneuver was used to pass Obamacare. Obamacare and Obamatrade. Two peas in a pod.

Originally Paul Ryan was going use some old firefighter bill but their union objected. So we got this old IRS bill reused instead I guess.


52 posted on 06/18/2015 4:55:55 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: kindred

I agree...I just see this verse working today prior to the tribulation. it is almost inexplicable why the GOPe and Conservatives and even the Tea Party would go right along with the Obama Agenda...unless you read these verses!


53 posted on 06/18/2015 4:56:19 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: InterceptPoint

Trump trumps Cruz today and I think this will kill his bid for President amongst Conservatives who are patriotic as Cruz chose to support Obamatrade. Reminds me of the day Christie bowed to Obama during the Sandy Hook incident which also killed his chances with patriotic conservatives who love America and hate the left and their rino allies.


54 posted on 06/18/2015 5:01:07 PM PDT by kindred (Save yourselves from this evil and untoward generation. Jesus is Lord and Saviour .)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Yes indeed. It does remind me of the ruthless lust of politicians for power over people, the anti Christ will be a politician before God gives him power to rule over those left behind as the anti Christ will lead 10 nations and be worshipped by the majority of the world at that time.


55 posted on 06/18/2015 5:04:14 PM PDT by kindred (Save yourselves from this evil and untoward generation. Jesus is Lord and Saviour .)
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To: ncalburt
This treason treaty will flood the US with more overseas slave labor and kill us off.

Day in day out...Incrementally one step at time. They've turned America from the greatest country on earth, to something most do not even recognize today.

All this while GOP candidates are struggling to out do each other to pander and give speeches in Spanish. While Trump stated he'd build one big ass wall in record time and make Mexico pay for it.

How?

Trump sends in no-nonsense top negotiators telling these folks down there if they want to sell their stinking goods in the U.S., including Fords from their new 2.5 billion dollar Mexican plant, build the damn wall now and to our specifications.

56 posted on 06/18/2015 5:08:42 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: kindred

Any supporters of Cruz that he loses over this are not going to migrate to a Democrat in a mask, like Trump.


57 posted on 06/18/2015 5:10:19 PM PDT by Ingtar (Capitulation is the enemy of Liberty, or so the recent past has shown.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
Actually, you are correct! The TPP are regulations of commerce with foreign nations, and Congress has been granted exclusive power to regulate commerce with foreign nations!

Under our Constitution, regulations of commerce come into existence by Congress authoring a bill to regulate commerce, debating that bill, amending that bill to accommodate the various state interests and the interests of the people of the United States, and then sending that Bill to the president for his signature or veto. This is how our representative system of government works. Fast Track Trade Authority allows the president to usurp Congress' legislative powers in creating a bill to regulate commerce, and leaves Congress with the President's veto power. And this my friend is not authorized by our written Constitution. Keep in mind that all legislative powers are vested in a Congress of the United States.

Additionally, all bills for raising revenue are to originate in the House of Representatives. Therefore, any trade rules made which affect imposts and duties on imports from foreign nations, which is what the Pacific Rim deal does, must originate in the House of Representatives and not in the Oval Office.

Fast Track Trade Authority is a blatant attack upon our representative system of government, allows the president to usurp Congress' exclusive power to regulate commerce with foreign nations, and violates the separation of powers which our founders wrote into our Constitution!

Do you support this attack upon our constitutionally limited system of government?

JWK

"The Constitution is the act of the people, speaking in their original character, and defining the permanent conditions of the social alliance; and there can be no doubt on the point with us, that every act of the legislative power contrary to the true intent and meaning of the Constitution, is absolutely null and void. ___ Chancellor James Kent, in his Commentaries on American Law (1858)

58 posted on 06/18/2015 5:11:14 PM PDT by JOHN W K
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To: TexasFreeper2009
The Supreme Court ruled on the constitutionality of executive agreements in 1937.

The Supremes ruled that a sawed off shotgun was not a militia weapon, despite the fact that the army used them as "trench guns". The Supremes ruled that homobamacare was Constitutional as a "tax".

You can either be a Conservative, or you can keep saying the things you do to excuse the shredding of our Constitution.

59 posted on 06/18/2015 5:16:27 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: ncalburt
All this while GOP candidates are struggling to out do each other to pander and give speeches in Spanish. While Trump stated he'd build one big ass wall in record time and make Mexico pay for it.

How?

Trump sends in no-nonsense top negotiators telling these folks down there if they want to sell their stinking goods in the U.S., including Fords from their new 2.5 billion dollar Mexican plant, build the damn wall now and to our specifications.

Actually, Trump would tell the folks down there WE'LL build the GD wall and you folks in Mexico will pay for our labor and material.

60 posted on 06/18/2015 5:16:50 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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