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The Senseless Death in a Charleston Church Could Have Been Prevented
SGBerman ^ | June 18, 2015 | Steve Berman

Posted on 06/18/2015 9:40:48 AM PDT by Sopater

Every time an American community suffers a tragedy involving a firearm, the anti-gun crowd unveils itself in full tribal dress.

Wednesday night, a 21-year-old sandy blonde-haired white man with blue jeans and Timberland boots walked into a historically black church in Charleston, S.C. and killed 9 people. That’s a horrible, murderous act, made worse by the fact that the man is still at large.

The New York Times reported S.C. Gov. Nikki Haley’s statement about the tragedy.

“While we do not yet know all of the details, we do know that we’ll never understand what motivates anyone to enter one of our places of worship and take the life of another,” the governor said. “Please join us in lifting up the victims and their families with our love and prayers.”

The Rev. Clementa Pinckney was among those killed. Pinckney was a S.C. state senator, a Democrat who served since 1998, was on the Corrections and Penology and Education committees, among others.

His voting record indicates that he was not a supporter of expanding gun rights for S.C. citizens.

In 2014, he voted against S.308, which Haley signed in law, allowing a Concealed Weapons Permit holder to carry firearms into restaurants that serve alcohol, while preserving the restaurant owner’s right to ban individuals carrying firearms in their establishment.

Current S.C. state law prohibits permitted individuals from carrying a weapon in a church (S.C. Code Ann § 21-31-215).

(Excerpt) Read more at sgberman.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; church; churchshooting; dylannroof; massacre; scchurchshooting; secondamendment; shooting; thatwasfast
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To: Sooth2222

couldn’t a congregation member with a high-capacity firearm have stopped his rampage?)

YES!


21 posted on 06/18/2015 10:04:50 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: VerySadAmerican

It’s a tragedy. But how many whites have been killed by blacks over the years. Obummer never speaks about that. or the WACO massacre. If it were blacks, forget about it. I’m glad this happened far from the election so it wont qaffect it.
politics aside, this just sucks aND I feel really bad for hte families.
And i’m glad i’m not there. the marches with al sharpton are gonna be never ending


22 posted on 06/18/2015 10:08:23 AM PDT by dp0622
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To: MeshugeMikey

I think the only problem at my church would be the amount of crossfire from the return fire......


23 posted on 06/18/2015 10:19:10 AM PDT by Mom MD
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To: DoodleDawg

That figures...


24 posted on 06/18/2015 10:43:57 AM PDT by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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To: Sooth2222
If Roof needed to change mags frequently for a 1911, couldn't a congregation member with a high-capacity firearm have stopped his rampage?

Probably could have stopped it with a well placed shot from a single-shot pistol.


25 posted on 06/18/2015 10:47:32 AM PDT by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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To: Sopater

I’d agree with you except it is common knowledge that there are far too many laws for any one person to know them all, and that fact is a very important one.


26 posted on 06/18/2015 10:49:24 AM PDT by wita
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To: wita
I’d agree with you except it is common knowledge that there are far too many laws for any one person to know them all, and that fact is a very important one.

Now that I can agree with. My statement was meant as sarcasm.
27 posted on 06/18/2015 11:01:44 AM PDT by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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To: Sopater

Sorry governor, we will “understand” the motive

We just won’t be politically incorrect enough to acknowledge it. Insanity. Mental disorder. Just don’t fit the meme of widespread white racism


28 posted on 06/18/2015 11:02:03 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: Sopater
One single person with a gun could have stopped this. I know for a fact that there are at least 3 CCWs at my church who always carry. This kind of crap won't happen there. He might get one or two shots off, but he sure as hell wouldn't be able to reload.
29 posted on 06/18/2015 11:08:38 AM PDT by zeugma (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3294350/posts)
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To: zeugma

I personally know professors who ccw on campus regardless of what the signs say at the door. I won’t admit on the record to anything but personally my view is better to be tried by 12 than carried by six and Texas has jury nullification for my trial by 12.


30 posted on 06/18/2015 3:06:17 PM PDT by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici")
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To: Mom MD

I heard that!


31 posted on 06/18/2015 4:03:25 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: dp0622

I feel for the families. But there’s one thing for sure, these people died BELEIVING they would be in the loving arms of Jesus when they died.

As for the idiot shooter, I’m sure a lot of people feel the same as he does. But don’t take it to the level he took it. There is no doubt black on black/white crime is out of control and something needs to be done about it.

Some idiot just called the Mark Levin show and said anyone who gives a gun to someone who uses the gun to commit murder should be given life in prison. So, I guess if someone takes their car and runs over and kills a bunch of people the sales person at the Chevy dealer should go to prison. Some people should really think long and hard before they open their mouths.

Of course there are those bitching about SC flying the battle flag of the Confederacy. When it was voted on taking it down a few years ago blacks voted overwhelmingly to keep it flying. But you won’t hear that.


32 posted on 06/18/2015 7:50:46 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (I'm very sad for my country. Personally, I've never been happier.)
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To: VerySadAmerican

Great point about the car. People complaining about the guns are idiots. They would trade freedom for a little imagined security.
But obummer and pantsuit will use this to their fullest advantage. vultures that they are


33 posted on 06/18/2015 8:00:39 PM PDT by dp0622
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To: Sopater
When will we see the press accounts asking What the people in the church did to provoke the shooter into killing them?
34 posted on 06/19/2015 8:16:56 AM PDT by archy
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To: dp0622
Great point about the car. People complaining about the guns are idiots. They would trade freedom for a little imagined security.

Almost. ***People complaining about the guns are idiots. They would trade everyone else's freedom for a little imagined security for themselves.***

I really, REALLY used to hate being an editor.

35 posted on 06/19/2015 8:19:08 AM PDT by archy
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To: Sopater

In South Carolina it is illegal for a convicted felon or a person awaiting trial for a felony to own a firearm. The killings in the church could have been prevented if only the killer’s father had followed the law and not bought his son the gun.


36 posted on 06/19/2015 8:22:33 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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